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To be honest, it looks like a fantasy mini that has been quickly upgraded to SF.

I wouldn't be surprised it if was, Raging Heroes style... (Or was it Avatars of War?)

Yes I think he may have worked better without the cloak (and beard? makes him look a bit Space-Wolf-ish). So, have to be honest not my favourite looking sculpt so far, but think there is definitely potential in the concept.

The accessories look nice though, and the plastic-type looking armour on the leg does I think just do enough to give it a sci-fi vibe.

They were probably going for a Firefly vibe but went too far...

I see the project is still gaining backers but losing money. I dropped my Early Feeder pledge to Inflationary Epoch yesterday as I'm just not seeing anything to make Feeder worthwhile and I need to allocate a chunk of money to an upcoming KS so I'm happy to back at £27 but that's as far as I'll go now. It took several hours for my Early slot to be picked up by someone else - that tells it's own tale.

I like the miniatures shown so far (including the finished Boromite), but they need to go away, re-think and come back with more finished material to show. I dropped out around a week ago and very little has changed (Darklands has got my money instead and Warzone Resurrection will likely get any spare if/when it comes out).

So... several of the factions of Beyond are characterized by reliance on the nanotech-Godmachine and are super, almost incomprehensibly advanced, right? Those factions are some of the few truly innovative ideas for this campaign, right?

Why are the previewed minis all so damn generic then?

In fairness it's unlikely to matter at this point: Beyond is now firmly in the zone of needing to make 10,000+ GBP every day for the remainder of the campaign to fund. It simply doesn't seem that there is material there to actually motivate those kinds of pledges.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
So... several of the factions of Beyond are characterized by reliance on the nanotech-Godmachine and are super, almost incomprehensibly advanced, right? Those factions are some of the few truly innovative ideas for this campaign, right?

Why are the previewed minis all so damn generic then?

Not just the miniatures. There is literally nothing in the previewed game-rules that would roll off that "central" part of the game's background. Nothing to indicate how all that super-interconnected nano-wizardry would actually affect the gameplay.

Which is, IMO, more than odd. Given how important it appears to be, I was expecting it to take on a central role in the game (to my limited game-designer creativity, something in the vein of magic/psy/equivalent-for-a-tech-game, just more brilliant). It just never came up.

Update: Hansa Painting Part 1 - By Golem Painting Studios

hello everyone!
We're in touching distance on our next stretch goal for the Global Club rewards! Join in if you haven't already, everyone gets to benefit!
Golem have finally got their hands on Hansa and have started sending us updates on where he's at, here's stage 1

Also I don't know if anyone noticed this on the KS frontpage, look at the guy on the left:


Enjoy.

Guy on the left looks very nice, I didn't care much for that factions art until now.

Still a big fan of the Freeborn though, and looking forward to seeing the finished paint job on Hansa.

I'm not sure how they can pull in more backers right now.

$150kish dollars is an impressive amount for almost nothing but the names backing it though.

Call me crazy but I can't help but think now that Hansa is primed he's even less impressive....

I personally love the Hansa miniature.

 cincydooley wrote:
Call me crazy but I can't help but think now that Hansa is primed he's even less impressive....

You can't honestly judge figures based on the WIP stages of a paintjob.

Yeah. I wouldn't judge the paint job until its done.

That said, showing various work-in-progress for having a mini painted (for a company only subcontracted and not really related to the KS on top) feels a bit odd.

There're painter blogs out there who throw up a fully (sometimes professionally) painted mini every day without even running a KS, just cause they like to show off their minis.

I think it's a matter of wanting to show some content (any content) at this stage...

Update: Global Club Stretch Goal - 750,000 pts - ACHIEVED!

WOOT! we've nailed the next stretch goal in our global club rewards! this one give all those backers at Dark Energy another 10 credits in their box, nice! The next goal gives 20 more credits to our feeder box, JOIN IN!

Enjoy.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Yeah. I wouldn't judge the paint job until its done.

That said, showing various work-in-progress for having a mini painted (for a company only subcontracted and not really related to the KS on top) feels a bit odd.

There're painter blogs out there who throw up a fully (sometimes professionally) painted mini every day without even running a KS, just cause they like to show off their minis.

Why exactly are they showing the painted miniature? Is that a reward at some level or something? It just seems like... filler.

This is day 40(!), and things are just still so... confusing.


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 Rolt wrote:
Update: Global Club Stretch Goal - 750,000 pts - ACHIEVED!

WOOT! we've nailed the next stretch goal in our global club rewards! this one give all those backers at Dark Energy another 10 credits in their box, nice! The next goal gives 20 more credits to our feeder box, JOIN IN!

Enjoy.

A perfect example of my point above: what?

Seriously, how big is this increase in terms of models? The example of the Isoran squad (under the artwork of the two guys) is 240 points for 11 models. Same with the example Freebooter squad. So... what good is 10 credits? What does that actually translate into?

 Buzzsaw wrote:

A perfect example of my point above: what?

Seriously, how big is this increase in terms of models? The example of the Isoran squad (under the artwork of the two guys) is 240 points for 11 models. Same with the example Freebooter squad. So... what good is 10 credits? What does that actually translate into?

Dunno. I think the idea of getting in some "stretch goals" through their "club scheme" (including the "Ronin" club-of-1) before they actually hit the goal is one of the better changes they made.

The credit system is Fubar though, I admit. But in absence of actual miniatures to add, it's the next best thing I guess.

The Freeborn guy has gigantic feet when compared to Hansa. Is that bothering anyone else or just me?

 Sidstyler wrote:
The Freeborn guy has gigantic feet when compared to Hansa. Is that bothering anyone else or just me?

Dont feel inadequate.....

Space Wolves, yeah!

And I knew I saw hansa in mini form before.....

So they took the only slightly interesting miniature concept and turned him into a Space Wolf?!

Was this decided by the "fans" or what? I've never seen a miniature that looked so little like the concept art that was supposed to inspire it...

Oh well, entering the realm of 10k a day for the minimal pledge required to make this a success means that we can probably say that GoA = DoA... At least this way I won't have anything to distract my walled from the glory of Cyriss!

i think its going to be made regardless but probably not realized all at once. Having another kick starter maybe down the line with all that they have done looks more realistic. There is obviously interest in it.

 Azazelx wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Call me crazy but I can't help but think now that Hansa is primed he's even less impressive....

You can't honestly judge figures based on the WIP stages of a paintjob.

Forget the paint job. I was talking about the primed version. In Green form he looked more detailed. Either there's way too much primer on this dude (which I doubt based on the ability I'd of the folks at Golem) or the model is simply mediocre. He's very static. Very. I dunno. I'm just left wanting.

Wouldn't mind seeing a squad shot or something other then one miniature in over 40 days.

At this point, they should be at greens for each faction, and progress work on rules.


The painting thing is too little, too late.

This whole thing was too little too late on day one.

I would really wish people would stop seeing GW everywhere, hansa is copying telion really? a generic at rest pose? and Hansa has proper trigger finger pose for at rest.

A technobarbarian looking like spacewoulf? sorry all technobarbaria tropes look roughly the same, as one would expect to see a barbarian with a few high tech stuff on it.

Personally I do not like the technobarbarian trope as a whole and would like to see a harder sci fi than that, or if the trope should be used be used in a more hard sci fi way than the easy way of having a stereotypical barbarian with high tech things strapped on him.

Techno Barbarian would look pretty cool in a Nordian Berserker regiment, but not sure if that was what they were aiming for

The not space wolf mini is horrible... Not even somewhat similar to the art.

Doesn't GW have copyright for the celebratory firing pose?

Update: Factions In-depth & Wiki!

Happy Sunday all!
A number of our fantastic backers have been building a Wiki, with all the information we've put out through our updates and some of the excellent work that's been contributed on our forums, including: new species ideas, our current guilds, fan-tech and fan fiction! Brilliant work guys! You can find it in the main menu on our website too.
Today's update is a more in-depth look at each faction, through the medium of video, enjoy:

The video is here:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2037958218/beyond-the-gates-of-antares/posts

So there you have it, another riveting update, tons of new stuff shown, now get pledging!



P.s. Sorry for not embedding the video I'm not sure how to with vimeo, silly hipster stuff.

Śo it sounds like the community has done a ton mor than the actual owners of the KS. Facepalm.