Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics! pp 39-41

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**aka_mythos**

Atia wrote:
insaniak wrote:
Alex C wrote:
JohnnyHell wrote:
This is what Dreadnoughts should always have looked like, if you grew up with the Space Marine/Epic system!

If you grew up with 2nd ed. 40k, THIS is what they look like:

*shudder*

That was Rogue Trader. 2nd ed introduced the washing machine pattern.

actually, you both are right^^

that cute guy was introduced in rogue trader, but was still used in early second edition days - the 2nd edition BRB has him in it

FW has yet to show us the Cortus Dreadnought, a "scrappy" and "smaller" dreadnought... I wouldn't be surprised if it looks more like this classic guy.

**SargentWhiskey**

could i paint these up in all world eater colors?

**Nevelon**

SargentWhiskey wrote:
could i paint these up in all world eater colors?

Seems fair, I'm painting all mine as Ultramarines.

As far as I know, there are no chapter markings baked on. Might make it hard to play the board game though.

**insaniak**

I don't know, a World Eaters free for all could make for an awesome game

**Slinky**

I see you are all "enjoying" my RT dreadnought pic

Here's a couple more:

And yes, the marine dreadnoughts should be on square bases, but I didn't have any to hand when I repainted them...

**insaniak**

The old stuff is great, but really not the topic of discussion here. The painting and modelling section would be more appropriate for showing then off.

**Warhams-77**

Well painted, Slinky!

Has the last page of the upcoming White Dwarf been leaked already?

There are rumors about a few more HH releases but I doubt that is true before seeing any pics hinting at that

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Adeptus Astartes

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Via natfka

This week we are getting the Betrayal at Calth Horus Heresy Board Game. That really is about it, but it is enough. This is a great buy for the models themselves, and hey! there is a board game attached. The best part is,....... there will be additional printings of this game. The sad part.... is that it may not come until January. But hey, if this is immensely popular, what do you expect, at least it is not limited.

Let me say the Horus Heresy game is not going to be a once and done. I was told GW expects to run out, but a 2nd print run will come in January 2016. All models are plastic and have no insignia on them. Decals will be included to make the marines whichever faction from the box set you want. These models can be used in Warhammer 40k or 30k.

-Aaron

not new info, but interesting the 2nd printing won't show up till January

**Verviedi**

Well, looks like I finally have conversion fodder for my AU Ultramarines.

**Wonderwolf**

So Natfka knows, there’ll be a second printing of the Heresy-game in January, but doesn’t know what will actually be released in January?

And three months ago (after this box was printed), he was still convinced this Heresy game would be Imperial Fists vs. Iron Warriors at Phall?

Yeeeeaaah ... right.

**Ashiraya**

14 Nov? That's straight on my birthday party!

Happy bday Ashi!

**Nevelon**

Ashiraya wrote:
14 Nov? That's straight on my birthday party!

Happy bday Ashi!

The nice thing about November birthdays is there is often a lot of cool stuff released around them. Of course, there is that thin window between seeing if you get something as a birthday gift and Christmas to buy stuff for yourself.

(Gets older this Friday)

**Stormwall**

I guess I can I wait till January and not be at risk of not being able to obtain this set?

**Wonderwolf**

Stormwall wrote:
I guess I can I wait till January and not be at risk of not being able to obtain this set?

Sure, if you believe Natfka.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Wonderwolf wrote:
Stormwall wrote:
I guess I can I wait till January and not be at risk of not being able to obtain this set?

Sure, if you believe Natfka.

Hint: Never trust Natfka.

**Tannhauser42**

I can certainly see a second printing taking a bit of time. While GW can produce all the models on demand in their own facility, someone else makes the cardboard and paper.

**Wonderwolf**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
I can certainly see a second printing taking a bit of time. While GW can produce all the models on demand in their own facility, someone else makes the cardboard and paper.

Why on earth would they order a second printing now?

If they anticipate high demand, they could’ve ordered the first printing large enough, or a second printing months ago.

If they react to demand, while keeping the first print run safe and small, they won’t order anything (and no secret Natfka-spy could spill anything about it) until they have the first numbers to crunch next week.

Occam’s Razor... Natfka is just making gak up based on last year’s Space Hulk, which sold out and had a small encore in January.

**Ashiraya**

Nevelon wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:
14 Nov? That's straight on my birthday party!

Happy bday Ashi!

The nice thing about November birthdays is there is often a lot of cool stuff released around them. Of course, there is that thin window between seeing if you get something as a birthday gift and Christmas to buy stuff for yourself.

(Gets older this Friday)

My actual bday is the 10th, but that is not a good day for parties because I spend most of that day in school.

I wonder why November often is when the cool stuff is released, though?

**Nostromodamus**

Ashiraya wrote:

I wonder why November often is when the cool stuff is released, though?

So it's fresh in people's minds for Christmas.

**gorgon**

Wonderwolf wrote:
Tannhauser42 wrote:
I can certainly see a second printing taking a bit of time. While GW can produce all the models on demand in their own facility, someone else makes the cardboard and paper.

Why on earth would they order a second printing now?

If they anticipate high demand, they could’ve ordered the first printing large enough, or a second printing months ago.

If they react to demand, while keeping the first print run safe and small, they won’t order anything (and no secret Natfka-spy could spill anything about it) until they have the first numbers to crunch next week.

Occam’s Razor... Natfka is just making gak up based on last year’s Space Hulk, which sold out and had a small encore in January.

It makes perfect sense to me. There are limits to their production capabilities, and they'd have to plan their production schedule well in advance. They probably anticipated demand being at a certain level, but they didn't want to tie up their machines that long. So an initial Calth run to see them through for a while, then production of other needed kits, then more Calth to satisfy remaining demand.

I'm hardly an expert on production and manufacturing, but I know that it's often a big juggling exercise.

**Zwan1One**

gorgon wrote:
Wonderwolf wrote:
Tannhauser42 wrote:
I can certainly see a second printing taking a bit of time. While GW can produce all the models on demand in their own facility, someone else makes the cardboard and paper.

Why on earth would they order a second printing now?

If they anticipate high demand, they could’ve ordered the first printing large enough, or a second printing months ago.

If they react to demand, while keeping the first print run safe and small, they won’t order anything (and no secret Natfka-spy could spill anything about it) until they have the first numbers to crunch next week.

Occam’s Razor... Natfka is just making gak up based on last year’s Space Hulk, which sold out and had a small encore in January.

It makes perfect sense to me. There are limits to their production capabilities, and they'd have to plan their production schedule well in advance. They probably anticipated demand being at a certain level, but they didn't want to tie up their machines that long. So an initial Calth run to see them through for a while, then production of other needed kits, then more Calth to satisfy remaining demand.

I'm hardly an expert on production and manufacturing, but I know that it's often a big juggling exercise.

IMHO if this is going to be the entry point for the Horus Heresy game then this needs to be the equivalent starter boxed set to 40k and AoS. And actually stay around for people to pick up and play before buying more forge world stuff for their battles.

**Ashiraya**

Alex C wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:

I wonder why November often is when the cool stuff is released, though?

So it's fresh in people's minds for Christmas.

True.

**krazynadechukr**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Wonderwolf wrote:
Stormwall wrote:
I guess I can I wait till January and not be at risk of not being able to obtain this set?

Sure, if you believe Natfka.

Hint: Never trust Natfka.

I ordered my copy, and paid $112.50 for it, and the "retailer" had this in their email -

So we plan to get 100 box sets of HHBC next week! sounds great, right? Well, its only relevant to the fact that we already have about half of them requested (and you zealots didn't even know the price yet!) And the plot thickened today when we learned that after Wednesday, there are no more orders for this release of the first wave, and wave 2 is JAN 11th! Thats 70 days to stretch out the zero boxes we might have left after next week! So we are turning to tier 2 warehouses for more stock, and that means that we have to pay more.....
Other things to consider might be "What about the people that are waiting for this email...?" "how about the people that were waiting to make all their holiday purchases on our black Friday sale?" "what about that grandma that waits till December to get lil' Timmy his gift?" Those things and lots more were discussed.

**Ironwill13791**

My FLGS was told by their GW rep, when they went to order in the box set, that they should try and get all that they will need because the 2nd print run wont come in until Jan. 11th (they then tried to pitch the big 70 box bundle so he could get all the free stuff and early too). Just piping in what I have heard.

**Warhams-77**

Next weeks White Dwarf hint - Atia at B&C

"Free poster! Your complete guide to the Citadel Colour System"

"HH-BAC - An exclusive new mission - only (available) in WD 94"

**Ghaz**

Warhams-77 wrote:
Next weeks White Dwarf hint - Atia at B&C

"Free poster! Your complete guide to the Citadel Colour System"

"HH-BAC - An exclusive new mission - only (availablr) in WD 94"

Yes, and that poster might confirm a previous rumor (unfortunately).

**Azreal13**

Wonderwolf wrote:
So Natfka knows, there’ll be a second printing of the Heresy-game in January, but doesn’t know what will actually be released in January?

And three months ago (after this box was printed), he was still convinced this Heresy game would be Imperial Fists vs. Iron Warriors at Phall?

Yeeeeaaah ... right.

You should do a blog! Show Natfka how it's done!

You could call it "Nails Of Conflict" or something!

**JohnnyHell**

They had one job - forecast and plan capacity to maximise impulse and pre-Christmas sales.

One job.

Facepalm.

**warboss**

That does seem to follow the GW cater to the scalpers... I mean "collector" resellers... method of product distribution. I hope those reading this thread that want one actually get one. You can have my copy as well.

**Wilson**

JohnnyHell wrote:
They had one job - forecast and plan capacity to maximise impulse and pre-Christmas sales.

One job.

Facepalm.

You understand that forecast is only forecast and therefore practically never accurate?

Besides- they've not even started sales yet!