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Sorry Vik, It was meant in the nicest possible way

Vik, you had to go and do it didn't you - I now can't get this idea out of my head - the Golden Condor must take flight in your future and soon...

no offence taken hk1x1 lol^^

and damn you too ruglud... why did you have to do that now? ... those wings... looks stunning... for the right kind of army this would be a cool flyer!

on a totally unrelated note... today update... which will happen later on as gluetime still prevents me from picture taking... will feater... wings... nose... and propellers... yeah my fellow followers...´tis right... you finally will see some stuff you have patiently waited for so long...

stay tuned... or... tune in later on

cheers, vik

Feather??? I will check back later to see some progress hopefully.

will feater

er.... i dunno anymore what i wanted to tell here

Dang! I need to visit here more. Those side props are awesome, I don't know what dowel you picked, but I was very impressed and that eagle head is amazing! Truly awesome. I hope you finish this project.

I believe that awesomeness inspire awesomeness even when things aren't logically connected and, while I have nothig more constructive to say I wish to do something positive So I just leave this here...



Cheers!

at storag... be careful, you could poke someones eye out with this ... actually a guy from school does these too... he showed me a "pistol" made from a small taperoller and a cloth peg i think... that rubber gatling is for sure some awesome tool!...if i had a bandsaw...really... if i had a bandssaw...

thanks comrade... you soon will see some new stuff of said project i hopeyou all will like:

UPDATE TIIIIIIMMMMMEEEE!



here we are... this is the current state of WIP the airship is in... the parts are not glued to...well the propellers arent... the hexagonal sideways engines are... and the nose is too... but i just wanted to emphasise a point here


getting a closer look to the propellers...





how do you like them? my wife told me she is a bit biased about the axle of the propellers... too weedy looking...hmmm...?

and the nose got some serious work done... now all plated and sealed... and a nice nosejob done with string...




and this is where i am currently working on... it will be the wings... i went down a more VSF line of look here... i hope this is recognizable?... these are either meant to be attached to the engines on each side... or on the tail... i am a bit undecided atm...





they are made from cut-off´s i made during the time i built the blimps parts... waste is not happening on my desk... everything gets recycled^^... currently these also got a coating with tissue paper and diluted PVA... to give it a more sail like look...i think i later on will add some rigging with string... but that remains to be seen...

and now to answer your earlier comments dear fellowship...

storag wrote:Vik, the eagle head turned out superb, it'll be a shame not to use it. Maybe you can use it in the gondola?
I can think of a modular zeppelin made from two parts: the gondola itself and the baloon. If the balloon is damaged, the eagle-shaped gondola is detached and the folded wings spread allowing it to glide like a giant bird to make a soft landing.

i really like your idea... but i have tried to fit it to the gondola... and it wont do... there is no room there... and it is way too big... around a third of the whole gondola so to say...beside... the only place it would fit at all would then conceal the hexagon bulleyes... and that i cannot do^^
but your idea did indeed give me quite the buttkicking moement, you know... the moment you wish you would have thought earlier of such an awesome idea....

shasolenzabi wrote:

 storag wrote:
Vik, the eagle head turned out superb, it'll be a shame not to use it. Maybe you can use it in the gondola?
I can think of a modular zeppelin made from two parts: the gondola itself and the baloon. If the balloon is damaged, the eagle-shaped gondola is detached and the folded wings spread allowing it to glide like a giant bird to make a soft landing.

Awesome idea Storag!

yup... filed for future use for sure ... beside... reminded me a lot of STNG

dsteingass wrote:Ahh! Inspired from Klaus's Athena eh Vik? Nice Job! I can't help but think that head would be a great ship prow or a boarding ram of some kind!
Glad you're better, it was quiet here yesterday

thanks mate... and dakka really is my second home... so a day without feels more than just a little akward...and indeedy... a prow would be a cool use for that... but i think i will settle for a nice building that this detail will be a main feature of...

Klaus, not Santa wrote:Wow, that eagle head is A.C.E.!
It would be a shame not to use it. I really like storags idea with the detachable gondola.
Nevertheless, I have to say, just from a size comparison, the blimp body is too small for the eagle head...
Well, I've been there too.
Remember when I had to extend the entire ATHENA hull by a section in the early stage, and when I later had to chenge her from aircraft carrier to destroyer...
I don't envy your position right now. It's a tough choice.
But at least your tummy is better
Best wishes!


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Oh, you could use the eagle head in a landing tower instead!
You know blimps need a tower to dock - and the eagle strongly reminds me of the Empire State Building ornaments - which top was originally designed to dock blimps

yup... the blimp is too small... for a true majestic looking animal... he would end up way too stocky looking and then be the laughing stock of any enemy...while even succesful in getting rid of enemies this way... there is such a thing called honor of battle^^...
and i have already put too much time in this project that extending the body now is a thing i would rather not rist at all anymore...too much work could go down to waste... tho i totally agree... that would be a good way... but the docking tower idea is as mentioned above something that is more than likley... more than likeley...tho time scale of this depends.... a crew to man this hulk of the heights is of higher priority

Theophony wrote:That eagle head is fantastic vik , maybe if you angle it downward slightly you could place gun barrels in the eyes. It looks lage enough to be a separate gun deck for the airship. That way as the ship soars above the battlefield he eagle's eyes can dispense justice on the heretics.

Glad your stomachs on the mend, that can quickly ruin a day.

Also it's a really nice hole punch set you have. I'm jealous of ha larger 32mm punch, largest I saw here without going to a different set is 25mm.

and it also was a steal... it only costed us 12€s... one holepunch of 25mm usually costs the better part of 25€s!!! so all these for even less...and... laser beams from eagle eyes... that sounds like a movie title^^

dsteingass wrote:Yeah! THat holepunch set looks useful! Even a built-in poker tool for removing the discs.

surpisingly i got rid of that after using it the first time at all... didn´t like the idea of getting ruined discs... it even has a spring by the way... maybe i had hit the punch too hard the first time...

Theophony wrote:

 dsteingass wrote:
Yeah! THat holepunch set looks useful! Even a built-in poker tool for removing the discs.

That's one thin I wish he set I have would have had. I've messed up so many discs its not funny.

hmm.... i ruined my first one due to the poker tool...

dsteingass wrote:Heh, I use an aluminum rod and a hammer to get mine out

that works too... and for my other trusty holepunch i use a poker too... otherwise those 5m and smaller discs only come free if i punch enough discs...

Theophony wrote:

 dsteingass wrote:
Heh, I use an aluminum rod and a hammer to get mine out

Even on the really narrow ones? I have a small carbon rod that I use, but the end has enough of a point that it cuts into them.

well i often also use wooden sticks so hurting the discs is not likely...

dsteingass wrote:Yeah, It has a flat cylinder end, it mars some, but then I usually punch 2 or 3 before I poke them out.

SelvaggioSaky wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8p9JpDuQ-o

Thought about It right away, great job mate, absolutely TOP

thanks mate... and sadly again youtube hates us germans... but i know which vid you wanted to show us^^

inmygravenimage wrote:Really love the eagle head, and completely agree on the need for frickin laser beams in its eyes. Also, if you pm Me your email address at no point will I send you a scanned page.

and many thanks for the compliments AND the scanned "art" oh and congratz t your win in the leagues competition... and welcome as a fellow riveteer!... we will conquer the world after all!!!

Dr H wrote:Nice work on the eagle head.

If it's positioning you're having problems with maybe...*thinks*...
You could stick it on a frame that sticks out the front and not flush to the surface of the blimp....
Or, attach it slightly higher up so the tip of the blimp is into the chin of the eagle and the head extends up the upper slope of the front of the blimp...

I'll come back if I have any other ideas.

come back even if you don´t ...
for now the eagle head... or dragin head for that matter has died... maybe i will wake up on morining and the idea will live up again...until then it will be a metal and wooden beast alone...

hk1x1 wrote:Hi Vic, haven't been round for a while, seems like I've missed a lot, time for a catch up me thinks

I really like the eagle head you've done, and I think it looks great on front there.
And you said your were going insane... well don't forget some of the most creative people in history were totally nuts,
so this is probably a good sign

thanks mate... and also congratz to your awesome win in the leagues competition...!!!and welcome to the fold as well!!!

Love how the balloon itself is looking. I'm with your good lady on the prop spindles. As for the tail, not bad, but I keep thinking pig something like the dragon's artificial tail in 'How to train your Dragon' which iirc is in the style of the da Vinci glider. Just my random thoughts.


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Um, oh, and thanks for the congrats!

Woo Update.

Engine mounts = good.
The hexagonal shape works well with the blimp's shape. (been eating smarties I see)

Propellers look good like that.
Maybe the lower axle could do with being a little thicker as we mentioned earlier.
Good to see you tilting the blades (make doubly sure when you glue them in that they are all tilted in the correct direction ).

I take it the plates on the nose will be metal (obviously riveted). Is the string staying as scale rope?

Nice work on the wings. Recycling for the win.
Tissue-paper-sail-look sounds good.

Nice

inmygravenimage wrote:Love how the balloon itself is looking. I'm with your good lady on the prop spindles. As for the tail, not bad, but I keep thinking pig something like the dragon's artificial tail in 'How to train your Dragon' which iirc is in the style of the da Vinci glider. Just my random thoughts.


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Um, oh, and thanks for the congrats!

you won because you earned it ... so respect where it is due^^
and yeah... i know you mentioned that earlier... i need to make a test of that one... just for the heck of it if it fails because i like that style too... by the way... that movie was very funny and cool! loved it! i´ll see what can be done to those spindles!!! i just got an idea!

Dr H wrote:Woo Update.

Engine mounts = good.
The hexagonal shape works well with the blimp's shape. (been eating smarties I see)

Propellers look good like that.
Maybe the lower axle could do with being a little thicker as we mentioned earlier.
Good to see you tilting the blades (make doubly sure when you glue them in that they are all tilted in the correct direction ).

I take it the plates on the nose will be metal (obviously riveted). Is the string staying as scale rope?

Nice work on the wings. Recycling for the win.
Tissue-paper-sail-look sounds good.

Nice

my son for his fifth birthday got some of these packages for him and his friends... as a fuel so to speak^^.... now imagine me... trailing behin everyone of them and trying to get hold of the empty packages of them... well... i got two out of six...if that explains my woes
Is the string s

taying as scale rope? i am still thinking about that... IF... then some string needs to be hanging from there to further support that idea i think... maybe some kind of anchor even...? and yeah the plates will get rivted^^

Maybe the lower axle could do with being a little thicker as we mentioned earlier.

yup... i will see to that tomorrow! i have an idea for that!...

Wow, I missed the update .
Well I think the propellers look good, but as dr. H said, the bottom part of them should be bigger than the top, hopefully that can be done without cutting everything up.

I like where your headed with the wing design as well

Do you think that there is enough space at the end of each engine block to put a gunnery basket? Even if they are just anti aircraft, they could be great defense for the engines.

Do you think that there is enough space at the end of each engine block to put a gunnery basket? Even if they are just anti aircraft, they could be great defense for the engines.

argh.... what did i done to you to deserve extra input!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i will have to chew on that for quite some time...... any ideas as to how this could look?...like the republican gunshipof star wars with their bubbles? or something else entrily?

I really like the propellers and the engines block, nice addition to the shape

If You try to put something else between the two propellers? i mean a kind of this thingy that is seen on every helicopter
http://www.google.it/imgres?hl=it&biw=1280&bih=699&tbm=isch&tbnid=qXlv7qP8QjcmXM:&imgrefurl=http://www.pagineprezzi.it/a/lista_prodotto/idx/10000720/mot/Stabilizzatore/lista_prodotto.htm&docid=zAYp-R68vAtGSM&imgurl=http://csimg.pagineprezzi.it/srv/IT/000038761755/T/340x340/C/FFFFFF/url/8018-stabilizzatore-rotore.jpg&w=340&h=340&ei=ftTdUdKqFKWN4gTEo4DgDg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:3,s:0,i:91&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=200&tbnw=196&start=0&ndsp=17&tx=102&ty=97

It might work

Love the idea of sails like wings and all the ropes that comes with It

WOW thats big, I've seen robotic blimps smaller.

I really need to check your blog more often, I miss all the cool stuff, That Card eagle is fantastic

er... thanks selvaggio... but what do i actually see in that link? it´s labeld a stabilizer...oh after klicking the pic now i see... hmmm but that would mean to rip everything apart...oh please... no^^

and yeah... the ropes... that will be a hefty job for sure...^^

well, I've caught up:
Nice propellers
Yup, insane people have done some awesome stuff... *cough* Tesla *cough*
Absolutely loving the badass eagle figurehead!

I think You can put It between the two propellers with some cables, just an idea, I love where this is going already

also, guess what's coming out friday! *squee*

Vik, start with circles that are attached to the blimp frame and engines, your new circle cutters could help here. Then make a hole on the circle for the pivot axis. Insert dowel pin. Mount squares on top and bottom of the dowel pins. Create weapon turret fo top of pin, twin linked would be best. Create mirror of that to mount underneath on the square there. Then create a defense wall around both. You could have something akin to this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:28_mm_AA_gun.jpg
One shooting targets above, one shooting targets below they don't even need to be manned, they can be remote operated.

hey shrike!... welcome back!...

and :



just for that vid


and yep... tesla... very day of the year tesla...!!!

and selvaggio...

between those two?




or just between upper und lower one?


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 Theophony wrote:
Vik, start with circles that are attached to the blimp frame and engines, your new circle cutters could help here. Then make a hole on the circle for the pivot axis. Insert dowel pin. Mount squares on top and bottom of the dowel pins. Create weapon turret fo top of pin, twin linked would be best. Create mirror of that to mount underneath on the square there. Then create a defense wall around both. You could have something akin to this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:28_mm_AA_gun.jpg
One shooting targets above, one shooting targets below they don't even need to be manned, they can be remote operated.

i need to see if i can do this... but... you haven´t seen my gondola guns i think... i need to fix that tomorrow...!

As promised Vik, just a reminder of what I mentioned in my thread about your now liberated eagle head:
Use it as the starting point of a steampunk ornithopter!!!

After you've finished the Airship.

@SS: I believe those stabilisers are used on helicopter propellers when they only have 2 blades (e.g. a Cobra or Huey) to balance it all out. Any helicopters I've seen with more blade don't appear to have them.

Ok, just saying

I meant between up and under, but We have the Doctor that knows what He's talking about

Well I'm hardly the expert on helicopters or propellers. That's just my experience with them.

Any idea is a good idea though...

now that i have had a bit of thinking... their like counterweights... so not really that needed when you have three or more blades to one propeller...

I like the propellers, once they are painted brass, they'll look perfect.

Hmm... Gunner baskets.. I say hold off on them sir, you must show me your complete ship, gondola and all, From a distance shot. I will happily add gunner locations. I am an ork after all. *sips tea* oh wait.. WAGGGHHHH

dsteingass wrote:I like the propellers, once they are painted brass, they'll look perfect.

hopefully this will be happening that way...

cormadepanda wrote:Hmm... Gunner baskets.. I say hold off on them sir, you must show me your complete ship, gondola and all, From a distance shot. I will happily add gunner locations. I am an ork after all. *sips tea* oh wait.. WAGGGHHHH

you ask for it... you get it^^...

gondola all armed...


new main engine with propeller...needs to get sturdier then i can bend the blades


full scale shots of the current airship as is...for any eventuall needed more dakka... point me in the right direction







and as you seen it already on one of the other pics this is a lil side project am doing for my son felix... he and his friends want to form a small wooden army... and this is supposed to be our first try to a soldier... way too in comparrision to the wooden tanks... but it gets painted nevertheless... by the way... the scheme is due to my son... not my idea



for now... cheers, vik

Nice Shako!

The Engine is fantastic Vik! And the Dakka looks great!