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2023/06/12 11:43:24
Subject: New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
3) The Von Ryan's have replaced the base Lictor gene and we will simply have Deathleapers and Von Ryans. That the article mentions the Deathleaper leading the Von Ryans supports this theory.
The article also says "Which means you can only take one – albeit with plenty of Lictor back-up." so Lictors aren't gone
2023/06/12 12:03:05
Subject: New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
stahly wrote: I feel that this will be a just a single build character model, like the Parasite of Mortex. Doesn't look like a dual-build Lictor model to me.
I guess Lictors will get a single model kit as well, or they'll be forever stuck in Finecast limbo with the Deathleaper and Van Ryan's Leapers taking the spotlight.
Counterpoint:
This majestic specimen is the advanced Lictor bioform you know and love, upgraded for a new edition. As an EPIC HERO* dedicated to the art of stabbing anything wandering into the shadows, Deathleaper is the Hive Fleet’s paramount terror weapon and a legend of lurking, inescapable dread the galaxy over.
* Which means you can only take one – albeit with plenty of Lictor back-up.
From the article/footnote. I don't think they'd mentioned Lictors specifically if they'd be relegated to be backbenchers.
Doesn't mean it has to be dual kit though. Lictor can be it's own clampack and both he is right and lictor comes.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2023/06/12 12:15:28
Subject: New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
Don't like the organic coat as it makes no sense. Ok, GW will probably try to do some technobabble, but GW historically has been worst when it comes to organic babble. The coat is waist down so it cannot wrap its whole body if it were some sort of camouflage, sound muffling, or insulating cloak. By linking the tendrils together, the tendrils cannot independently strike out like tentacles. I'm guessing the stringer tentacle from the back of the neck is the old "implant attack".
Wish GW had tried to get a real biologist's advice on how to create a "hero Lictor", with reference to some obscure real life biological weapon or other hunting/stalking adaptation.
2023/06/12 12:28:28
Subject: New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
Am I crazy or wasn’t there a Tyranid originally described by eyewitnesses as being a cloaked figure? It doesn’t pop up under the deathleaper lore on any wiki I saw so maybe it was for something else
2023/06/12 12:36:48
Subject: Re:New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
Mr_Rose wrote: Like the cloak thing. Giving Vampire Squid vibes, which matches the tentacles at least.
Yes I got that feel too from the visual appearance. The problem is that what works for a vampire squid in an aquatic environment does not work for this model, not least because of the issue of size. A waist down little cloak is not comparable to the vampire squid's threat response of turning its webbing inside out over its body to present a spiky appearance to ward off predators who might think it more trouble than it would be worth.
2023/06/12 12:41:15
Subject: Re:New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
Wish GW had tried to get a real biologist's advice on how to create a "hero Lictor", with reference to some obscure real life biological weapon or other hunting/stalking adaptation.
You mean like some kind of sea creature, famous for tentacles and often having a "skirt" that runs near the core of its body that runs between the lower part of the tentacles. A species that also famous for being able to change its skin colour for camouflage in a way that chameleons can only dream of.
Cause it might be that they already did, octopus
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They pretty much conformed Lictors are also coming, so curious to see how they'll do it.
My guess will be either a box of two, with options for alternate unit/variant (unlikely), or a single model with some option to build different Lictors (like the Beast of Nurgle for example).
Fantasy armies - Retired (Tomb Kings, Vampires, Empire, Chaos Warriors/Daemons, Dark Elves)
Tyranids army - Ever evolving, but about 10k pts
Custodes - 3,500pts (Fully painted yay!)
Thousand Sons - 4,000 pts
Eldar - 3,000pts
2023/06/12 12:44:34
Subject: Re:New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
Except the cloak also links the tips of those tendrils so they are not comparable to an octopus's tentacles, and again that is an aquatic adaptation, not a land creature's. Its mouth parts are more like an octopus. The tips are unlinked allowing for independent movement. However the same problem that I identified with the Neurotyrant is also present with this Deathleaper. There are teeth in the jaw, buit no opposing teeth/jaw with which to form an actual bite.
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2023/06/12 13:08:36
Subject: New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
GaroRobe wrote: Am I crazy or wasn’t there a Tyranid originally described by eyewitnesses as being a cloaked figure? It doesn’t pop up under the deathleaper lore on any wiki I saw so maybe it was for something else
There's definitely an interesting aspect there. If it can theoretically 'wrap' its legs in that flap? It could pass for a techpriest at a distance...
Also an interesting thought:
It could be a camouflaging mechanism more suited to a corner-camping predator. It latches itself to a ceiling, lashes its tail in and spreads out the membrane to block itself off, tucking itself into a corner of the ceiling and hiding.
2023/06/12 13:20:47
Subject: New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
Mr_Rose wrote: Like the cloak thing. Giving Vampire Squid vibes, which matches the tentacles at least.
Except vampire squid membrane fully encloses and at the centre of it is the mouth. If they did a head which basically looked like a vamp squid, that would be a cool design flourish. The tiny portion of half skirt relegated to the back just serves no practical purpose.
@Overread - Thank you. If it was actually a cloak it would make more design sense, but the skirtness of it is why it looks so silly and any analogies to cephalopods or flying squirrels are bunk.
xttz wrote: "The value of the prize is GBP £37.50"
Recent named characters have been £27.50, while 'elite' infantry like Eightbound were released at £37.50
Bets on this being a box with 2-3 lictors, and one of them can be built as Deathleaper?
Zero, not only 40K unlike AoS doesn't do alt builds in 95% of the cases, even where it would make total sense, but you're being silly if you think box with 3 models this size will cost just 37.50. Look at $$$ of much smaller Bladeguard/Eliminators and come say that again...
2023/06/12 14:21:06
Subject: Re:New Nids for New Edition. Deathleaper pp45
