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I to would like to see some more fantasy geared trays.

Romeo - I heard you on 40k radio and you honestly sold me on battlefoam, well...your infomercial iced the cake

I want to know a couple things before I order.

1) You said sabol and GW trays will fit in your new cases as they are smaller than the new sized trays, but I would like to know if they will fit snugly? I would like to buy sabol and GW sized trays, and they also one of your cases and have the foams works in all my cases, but am not sure if your new cases will be accomodating or not.

2) I have an armorcast reaver and was wondering how much it would cost for the custom trays i saw on your site for a reaver?

3) I also have a FW Warhound that I would like a tray for, info on that would be helpful too.

Orangecoke - Our shipping is set up as flat rates.

United States is $5.00 for the first item and $1.00 for each additional item.
Canada and Mexico is $10.00 for the first item and $1.00 for each item additional item.
UK, Australia, Asia, and the rest of Europe is $20.00 for the first item and $2.00 for each additional item.

Malfred - We really can not pre make foam for warjacks and similar warmachine items because they are so different and customizable. It would be like trying to read someones mind. As for our troop trays most will fit just about all the different miniature ranges. Spending a few minutes to trace a couple of models is way easier then plucking and picking foam that rips and falls apart. We require such little effort from our customers to get them a great product, why not spend the time to trace.

Vreda - We do not label all the trays by playing style, but please understand that most of our trays are interchangable regardless what system you play. Troop trays can work for vampire counts zombies as much as they can work for IG cadians. The marine scout bike tray can easily be used for empire mounted knights or similar models. As our site grows, we will split things up by army range and style. You'll be able to go to Tau or Skaven or whatever, and look up all the trays available for those ranges.

Joyous_Oblivion - Until next month, we can not give to much away with our bag sizes for copyright and trademark issues. We are getting our bags TM and R protected before we launch so other vendors do not steal our ideas. I will try to answer the question as best as possible without giving to much away.

Yes, you will be able to fit Sabol or GW trays inside our bags. Will they fit snugg, No. We designed the bags to fit our trays perfectly, so that means other makers will not fit exact for basic reasons.

The Reaver titan that we did for the last customer was $20.00 per tray. I think he did 5 trays so around $100.00 would be the cost. If you have a different weapons setup, we can custom cut trays for your specific Reaver, but those trays would be $25.00 each instead of $20.00

The warhound would fall under the same pricing as custom trays. $25.00 per tray and the amount of trays needed will depend on how you have your titan put together and what type of case your run. GW, Sabol, or something different.

Hope this helps you guys out. Keep the questions coming and I'll get you guys as much info as I can.

Romeo
Battle Foam

It's not just the Warmachines. The infantry is a little bigger at the base and
sometimes a bit wider.

Malfred - 5 minutes of tracing gets you perfect fitting foam trays. Is anyone really that busy to not have 5 minutes to get a perfect fit item. Think of us as tailors for the gaming world.

Sgt Diablo wrote:Think of us as tailors for the gaming world.

In line with the feel of the shamwow-style infomercial, you need to have your hair greased back and wear a tacky suit when you say this.

just sayin'

How many 2x2 inch slots can fit in a GW 1 inch sized tray?

my kroot seem to fit very nicely into the 1x2 inch slots in the GW case. My problem is I don't want GW foam, I want battle foam.

How many 1x2 slots could you fit into your 8x13 inch sabol sized tray?

Also, normal Sabol trays (which I'm already a little tired of) are 7.5 inches wide. If (when) I buy some battlefoam (at 8 inches wide) will I have to squeeze it horizontally to fit in my army transport (which I will be holding onto until I can afford a better bag)?

thanks!

Hi guys, here is a sneak peak at the trays that will go in new cases. Use this as inspiration to help name the bags, or just have another laugh at me on YouTube.

Thanks

Romeo

PS. Pre orders start March 1st, not October 1st like I say in the video. Sorry.

that 12 warbikes and 18 stormboyz in one tray is just awesome. Can't wait to be able to throw down some of my tax return on those bags

cerberez wrote:
Also, normal Sabol trays (which I'm already a little tired of) are 7.5 inches wide. If (when) I buy some battlefoam (at 8 inches wide) will I have to squeeze it horizontally to fit in my army transport (which I will be holding onto until I can afford a better bag)?

I thought about the same thing, but after receiving my foam, it really isnt much of an issue. It it a little snug, but it generally fits nicely (ie you can put it in the same way that you put in the stuff that came with the case).

I will have to ditto most everyone else's sentiment that I want one of the new bags when it comes out (though I will probably have to start saving now and not buy any more stuff for my army, but such is the life of a broke college student).

Tax returns! Yes! Brilliant!

I'm due for some sizable returns this year, so I'll be able to stock up! I can't wait to be able to bring just one bag to the game store! No more balancing boxes for me!


P.S. Yay for stimulating the economy

Sgt Diablo wrote:

Joyous_Oblivion - Until next month, we can not give to much away with our bag sizes for copyright and trademark issues. We are getting our bags TM and R protected before we launch so other vendors do not steal our ideas. I will try to answer the question as best as possible without giving to much away.

Yes, you will be able to fit Sabol or GW trays inside our bags. Will they fit snugg, No. We designed the bags to fit our trays perfectly, so that means other makers will not fit exact for basic reasons.

The Reaver titan that we did for the last customer was $20.00 per tray. I think he did 5 trays so around $100.00 would be the cost. If you have a different weapons setup, we can custom cut trays for your specific Reaver, but those trays would be $25.00 each instead of $20.00

The warhound would fall under the same pricing as custom trays. $25.00 per tray and the amount of trays needed will depend on how you have your titan put together and what type of case your run. GW, Sabol, or something different.

Hope this helps you guys out. Keep the questions coming and I'll get you guys as much info as I can.

Romeo
Battle Foam

Romeo, not trying to start anything, but why would mine cost $5 more than he paid? Especially since it is a near identical project?

can't talk for anyone else...but I will be preordering your customer cases asap come March 1st. You have some fantastic items

Joyous_Oblivion wrote:

Sgt Diablo wrote:

Joyous_Oblivion - Until next month, we can not give to much away with our bag sizes for copyright and trademark issues. We are getting our bags TM and R protected before we launch so other vendors do not steal our ideas. I will try to answer the question as best as possible without giving to much away.

Yes, you will be able to fit Sabol or GW trays inside our bags. Will they fit snugg, No. We designed the bags to fit our trays perfectly, so that means other makers will not fit exact for basic reasons.

The Reaver titan that we did for the last customer was $20.00 per tray. I think he did 5 trays so around $100.00 would be the cost. If you have a different weapons setup, we can custom cut trays for your specific Reaver, but those trays would be $25.00 each instead of $20.00

The warhound would fall under the same pricing as custom trays. $25.00 per tray and the amount of trays needed will depend on how you have your titan put together and what type of case your run. GW, Sabol, or something different.

Hope this helps you guys out. Keep the questions coming and I'll get you guys as much info as I can.

Romeo
Battle Foam

Romeo, not trying to start anything, but why would mine cost $5 more than he paid? Especially since it is a near identical project?

he said if you have a different weapon load out it would cost more.

meaning they would have to make a new pattern, which brings in the cost.

No doubt they would have to cut new ones. But why do I have to pay more for my configuration?

They had to cut an original for the first guy too...

Joyous_Oblivion wrote:No doubt they would have to cut new ones. But why do I have to pay more for my configuration?

They had to cut an original for the first guy too...

Prehaps that person also paid $25, And now that they have the pattern they will only charge $20 to remake it?

Romeo.. in your newest video.. you show off a 72 model tray next to a basic sabol tray. Obviously yours is much bigger and fits more models.

Question - will *2* Sabol trays, turned sideways, fit in your trays' footprint?

-Porkuslime

Joyous_Oblivion - The pricing I'm giving you is general because I have no idea what your Reaver looks like or how you want it set up. Our pricing for custom cut foam is $25.00 per tray and that includes the setup, design, or layout. If we already have the shape or design because of pass customers that still leaves us with a new layout if you want something different. That would require a price of $25.00 per tray because we still have to go in and change the program.

Now if you wanted the exact order like the other customer, then you would get the same price. $20.00 per tray. The only time the cost goes up, is if you change things. Hope that clears things up.

Porkuslime - The Sabol trays will not fit side by side in our bags. We designed them that way for a reason. We are hoping to grow our company, not Sabols. That means that we need to make our bags fit our sized foam. Its just good business for us, and I'm sure you can understand that. It would be like Warmachine Jacks having inter changeable parts with a Space Marine Termy. That would just not make sense.

One thing to note. We plan on making our product of a level that requires you to want it. With great customer service, well build and designed product, and fast turnaround, we should do well.

I personally feel that if I can make sure people are treated the way I want to be treated, everything else will fall into place.

Romeo
Battlefoam

Hey all,

At Romeo's behest (and cuz I wanna show off my schnazzy new foam) here are pics of the foam that i got (at least most of it)


40 troop tray w/ Sisters in it


YES! THEY DID IT! Foam that holds pentient engines (and the Throne of Judgment to boot)


My favorite tray that I got of all of them is the 4 Exorcist Tray!!


Repentia Tray


Random Odds and Ends (2 cannonesses, a squad of arco-flagellents, and the repentia mistress mostly)


Scout Biker Tray doubling to hold my seraphim

hope that this has been informative and (at least slightly) entertaining for all of you. Also, I'll say it again, these guys do great stuff, you should buy foam from them!

Later
BLARGAG!!!

Sgt Diablo wrote:Joyous_Oblivion - The pricing I'm giving you is general because I have no idea what your Reaver looks like or how you want it set up. Our pricing for custom cut foam is $25.00 per tray and that includes the setup, design, or layout. If we already have the shape or design because of pass customers that still leaves us with a new layout if you want something different. That would require a price of $25.00 per tray because we still have to go in and change the program.

Now if you wanted the exact order like the other customer, then you would get the same price. $20.00 per tray. The only time the cost goes up, is if you change things. Hope that clears things up.

I personally feel that if I can make sure people are treated the way I want to be treated, everything else will fall into place.

Romeo
Battlefoam

I know what points you are trying to cover, but you still haven't addressed the one I asked about.

Why am I paying $25 per foam, when the first Reaver paid $20 per foam. If mine has to be custom, so did his, as it was the first to be done. The only thing I'm trying to find out is why I get the extra $5 upcharge on the foam.

Joyous_Oblivion wrote:

Sgt Diablo wrote:Joyous_Oblivion - The pricing I'm giving you is general because I have no idea what your Reaver looks like or how you want it set up. Our pricing for custom cut foam is $25.00 per tray and that includes the setup, design, or layout. If we already have the shape or design because of pass customers that still leaves us with a new layout if you want something different. That would require a price of $25.00 per tray because we still have to go in and change the program.

Now if you wanted the exact order like the other customer, then you would get the same price. $20.00 per tray. The only time the cost goes up, is if you change things. Hope that clears things up.

I personally feel that if I can make sure people are treated the way I want to be treated, everything else will fall into place.

Romeo
Battlefoam

I know what points you are trying to cover, but you still haven't addressed the one I asked about.

Why am I paying $25 per foam, when the first Reaver paid $20 per foam. If mine has to be custom, so did his, as it was the first to be done. The only thing I'm trying to find out is why I get the extra $5 upcharge on the foam.

....

Persons A & B & C want to make a custom tray for a Warhound.

Person A makes an order a Month or so before Person B

Store BF doesn't have the design made yet, so they need to custom make it.

Store BF charges Person A $20 + $5 for Design and Setup.

Person A is happy and done with the deal.

Store BF now has the design work all done for this Warhound.

Person B now is ready to buy trays for his Warhound, his warhound is the same load out as Person A's.

Store BF not requiring the setup and design work, doesn't need to charge Extra, so Person B only pays $20.

Person B is happy and done with the deal.

Person C now comes along and wants trays for His Warhound, but he has different Weapon Options.

Store BF has to do new Design Work and Setup for these Trays, and thus Charges Person C $20 + $5 for Design/Setup.

Person C can't seem to comprehend this concept.

LOL Cyporlean - Very funny post, and you've hit the nail on the head.


Joyous_Oblivion - The point here is not the extra $5.00 per custom tray, but the fact that we still do not know what you actually want because you have yet to place the order. As of right now, your foam may cost $15.00 per tray. We don't know until we receive the order and do a custom order quote.

We do a quote before we charge any amount to someone's credit card. We always discuss your order with you and in most cases if your the first person sending in a design we get you free shipping. This covers some of the extra cost that your paying for adding a new setup. The extra charge is for spending time on the computer rearranging your custom setup. Again, if you wanted the same exact setup with no changes as the last reaver you would get the same price. If you changed the layout or weapon positions then that would require us to reset the program and would require computer time. That is the reason for the extra $5.00 per tray.

The reaver order you are speaking of had multiple parts and cost different prices for different trays. Some trays $20, and a couple $25. You are not getting overcharged anything because we still don't know what you actually want to order. I would suggest getting the items you need traced and faxing or emailing in the order. Once we have it we will quote you according to your specific order. If you don't want to send in traced items and want the same layout as the other customer, than the same price applies.

Until than no price I say will be true or correct. We really just need to see your order first. That will answer 99% of your questions and get you a final price.

Hope this clears things up.

Romeo
Battlefoam

The new video was cool, and impressive. What struck me though was the large size of the foam trays. They seem quite large vs the Sabol, and I already find the Sabol case kinda biggish Will the trays be horizontally arranged in the case, or vertically? I suppose that might be something you don't want to reveal yet of course. But it definitely jumped out at me how big the trays were.

Sgt Diablo wrote:
Porkuslime - The Sabol trays will not fit side by side in our bags. We designed them that way for a reason. We are hoping to grow our company, not Sabols. That means that we need to make our bags fit our sized foam. Its just good business for us, and I'm sure you can understand that. It would be like Warmachine Jacks having inter changeable parts with a Space Marine Termy. That would just not make sense.

I certainly DO understand that, and hope to place an order some time after tax time..

Your trays and adaptability are very impressing so far.

However, if I DO go with you guys, I will have a mountain of unusable Sabol trays to dispose of.. so I was wondering if I get one of your snazzy new bags, will my existing Sabol trays wedge in there if I double them up. Using your bags for multi-purposeing my armies, if you would.

1 bag to hold them all, one bag to rule them.. and then keep ALL trays on a shelf and just take along to game night what I need at that moment.

-Porkuslime

After watching the video, it's clear that your special foam for the case is a little larger than the GW foam. Can you tell us the width and length so I can start planning out my custom foam to fit my ork army? I'm sold on the bag already- that's for sure. I've even started making the outlines for my dudes, just to be ready for the bag's launch!

One more question, when planning out the shapes for a tray, do we have to provide exactly where we want each figure? Or is it enough to show the outlines and ask that they be put ona tray in the most efficient layout?

Thanks!

LittleLeadMen - Sorry, but I can not tell you the exact size of the trays until March 1st. Its just part of the whole launch thing. Plus we have to finalize some legal items first before posting details for our IP reasons.

2. No you do not have to tell us the layout unless you want something very specific. We always try to maximize the load out so you get the most bang for your buck. Looking forward to your future order.

Romeo
Battlefoam

I was at the site and noticed that you have started the army specific sections. At the moment it looks like the only thing in them are the troops trays. When can we expect to see these sections updated? Great Idea!

Thanks,

You should start seeing army specific foam posted this weekend. As we add new items they go into the army they are designed for. This should help most people find what they are looking for quickly.

Keep in mind that lots of items will work for several game ranges, so repeats will be normal.

Here are some pics of the stuff my buddy got on Friday...... Battle foam produces some great stuff. I will be putting all my foam on ebay and switch over to Battle foam. Now I just need the way cases/bags to come out!

Cheers