Product Review: Battle Foam

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**Sarigar**

Great looking product. I admit you hit the nail on the head about competitor trays. I'll be checking out the product range.

**UsdiThunder**

I like the look of your products. I'm going to be dedicating some of my income Tax return to buying one of your bags if not 2.

one of my questions is what are the army kits going to consist of? Since there is no one standard list out there, I'm curious on how you will determine what goes in them.

The only suggestion I'd have is to combine option 2 and 3 together. Get a pre-filled bag with the foam you want, but no custom cuts, just stock cuts.

Can you customize trays to fit specific squad sizes? Orks go in 10-30 troops Gretchin go 10-30 with 3 runherds. Could I order something like a 60 troop foam for Ork boyz?

This would be great to keep my units together. That's why I haven't bought from GW or Sabol yet.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I'm also a bit tempted.

Mainly for the higher model count per tray, as I'm currently doing Savage Orcs in Fantasy to be followed by Skaven, and embarking on an Orky army for 40k.

**Necros**

I already have 3 different sized army transport bags, I don't think I need any new bags but I can always use new foam trays. How well do these fit into the army transport bags? It looks like they're bigger.. or can they be custom ordered to be the same size?

sorry if that's been answered already, lots of replies and I didn't see it...

**Valhallan42nd**

Necro

The trays are either designed to fit in Sabol or GW cases, depending on what you're ordering.

**ubermosher**

Reecius wrote:I heard you on 40K radio and D6, I want a shammy with my order! hahah.

That's what I was thinking the whole time... Is this the guy that does those Shamwow commercials?

**Platuan4th**

ubermosher wrote:
Reecius wrote:I heard you on 40K radio and D6, I want a shammy with my order! hahah.

That's what I was thinking the whole time... Is this the guy that does those Shamwow commercials?

That Vince guy(from aforementioned commercial) is now pimping some slap-chop doohickey as well.

**Orkeosaurus**

"Look at this, this is garbage!

I'm just tearing it apart because it's worthless to me!"

That infomercial was the greatest.

**Battle Foam**

You guys think its funny, you should see what my wife says to me. Her, my mom and dad almost sh#$ when they saw it. My mom actually called me crying after watching. She said I reminded her of Billy Mays the old SHAMWOW guy. Hey, I look at it this way. If you can't make fun of yourself, who can you make fun of.

Hope it brings a smile to your guys face.

Romeo (aka, FOAMWOW guy) LOL

**sonofruss**

You need to copyright that soon.

**tzeentchling**

Nice products! Do you have anything that would fit a)Dreadnoughts, with or without arms attached, and b)Land Speeders, also with or without weapons? (Not only does magnetization allow weapon swaps, it makes for easier storage and transport!)

**Major Malfunction**

JohnHwangDD wrote:Green Git - you got a Red Duck?

Nope, silver and black Aprilia Tuono:

**Vreda**

I guess your head is almost as important as your army

almost.

**ph34r**

Sgt Diablo wrote:Romeo (aka, FOAMWOW guy) LOL

FOAMWOW will make you say wow every time.

**Hellfury**

Here is a review from "Word Bearer", a local member of Adeptus Minneapolis who recently bought a tray to see if he liked the foam:

As discussed in the other thread, Battlefoam is basically this guy down in Arizona who has access to what I assume is laser cutting equipment and uses this to cut wonderful foam trays for us to carry our small plastic dollies from tournament to tournament in.

To start with, I'm only going to talk about the "Sabol sized" Battle Foam inserts as these are the only ones that I have purchased. Keep in mind that he does produce trays in the "standard GW Case size" as well.

My experience with Battle Foam actually started off pretty terribly, as in, their website wouldn't actually let me order anything! I tried purchasing a 2 for 1 Sabol sized 40 man standard tray package and the website kept returning "Invalid Account" every time I tried to purchase, even across two different credit cards. After mucking about with it, I gave up after about 5 minutes and decided that Battle Foam was not for me.

About a day later I received a voicemail from none other than Battle Foam apologizing for the issue with their shopping cart, and a promise that not only would it be resolved shortly, but that I could give him a call back to place my order. I decided that I hate Sabol "pull and pluck" trays just enough to give it a shot and decided to go ahead and place the order.

While I on the phone, I spoke with the owner a bit about the company and he was a charming, nice man who was committed to getting me my proper "dollie trays". He explained that I had multiple orders in the system, and cleared that problem up, placed the order for my two trays, and even encouraged me to have some sort of logo etched into my trays(something I originally was not going to do because I thought the idea a little nerdy, but now that I have my trays I can honestly say that I think it is pretty cool). We got off of the phone, and I began waiting.

Unfortunately, I waited a long time. It took about a week for my credit card to get charged, and the trays were shipped out about a day later. In most cases I would be pretty discouraged about this sort of a turnaround, but then I thought about it for a moment: As far as I know, we're talking about a smaller company(1-2 people was the impression that I got) who do this "on the side" currently(I may be completely wrong).

Once my trays arrived, I was greeted to this:

To my surprise, the slots in each tray were actually pretty spacious. I had originally thought that they would be tiny, given the smaller size of the Sabol trays.

These Chaos marines fit into them without any pushing or fighting, even the model with the tall, spiky backpack. The tray will actually hold 40 space marine models very comfortably, and the kicker is that it this tray only takes up about 1/20th of the space in my Army Transport Motorpool!

Using similarly sized Sabol "pull and pluck" trays, I think that I would be able to fit maybe 26 models onto the tray. Also take into account that since I will have pulled and plucked many of the little foam squares out of it, the tray would be weakened and flimsy, whereas the Battle Foam trays seem to have two differences:

1) The Battle Foam tray seems to be made out of a more solid foam and is more resistant to bending than my sabol trays(this could also just be a byproduct of the pull and pluck thing).
2) the "bottom" of the tray, a thin section of a softer, dense foam seems to be both thicker and softer on the Battle Foam inserts than on some of my Sabol trays.

Going into this purchase I was a little skeptical of the end product, especially given the price tag when compared to standard Sabol trays. Now that I have the product in hand, I can honestly say that I'll be ordering some more trays in the near future, with a few custom cuts in mind as well(specifically for my Hell Talon and Hell Blade).

Quick Rundown of Pros and Cons:

Pros

Can fit 40 standard models on a Sabol sized tray, meaning more models in your Army Transport.

Sturdier foam.

No pulling and/or plucking means that you're not weaking your tray by pulling away the glued sections. Also, no frustration when pulling at the deeper trays(I hate working with these, let me tell you!).

Individual logos can be added to each tray, giving you some organization options when your trays are not loaded into an Army Transport(mine stay shelved since I use my Transport for two different armies currently- with Battlefoam I think I will start using it for the third).

Friendly staff willing to go the extra mile to get you taken care of.

Cons

A little pricy compared to standard Sabol trays.

Seemed to take awhile for my order to ship.

Really, for the pros I can see paying the extra few bucks to keep everything safe and well organized, and to save me the annoyance of having to figure out how to best fit X number models into a Sabol tray.

**Cyporiean**

Any chance for Fantasy trays? something that holds Horsies/Cold Ones and the oddly sized Standard Bearers?

**Battle Foam**

Cyporiean -

Any chance for Fantasy trays? something that holds Horsies/Cold Ones and the oddly sized Standard Bearers?

Yes, we can make something for your oddly sized models. That's what we specialize in. No matter what the design is, we can cut it and make it fit. Standard Bearers, Musicians, Wolves, Dragons, and everything else. If one of our pre cuts don't work for your army, just use the custom order foam found on our home page to send in your individual models. We'll cut them to fit exactly your army.

Also check out the how to on sending in custom orders on our custom trays page. http://www.battlefoam.com/custom-trays/

If you have any specific questions, don't hesitate to call us and we can help clear things right up.

Thanks

Romeo

**Cyporiean**

I'll be ordering from you guys as soon as your Big Case is available so I can replace my current cases with it. ^.^

**Vreda**

Are your new bags going to be comparably priced

to your competitors or should we expect to see a premium price tag?

**Battle Foam**

Pricing will be done in 3 ways for each bag.

1st. Empty Bag - This will be the cheapest and will get you our bags with no foam inside.

2nd. Pre Loaded - This will be a medium price and get you the bag of choice + pre cut foam. We will have pre cut kits such as the Ork Kit, or the SM Kit and so on. These kits will include troop trays, vehicle trays, and others.

3rd. Custom - This price will get you the bag filled with custom cut foam to your specific army or armies. You pick the bag, the foam, and the cuts. Completely tailored to your needs.

I cannot tell you the pricing until launch day, but they will be priced right for what you will receive. Also remember that you will fit 40% more items in our cases then the competition, so that's like getting two bags for the price of one.

More info soon to come.

Romeo

**Orangecoke**

Really cool product! I have 2 questions and 2 suggestions:

- one of the most interesting things is the ability to do round cutouts. I say "most interesting" as a Warmachine player with lots of 'Jacks

But on the custom order instructions, it indicates your shape must convert into straight lines?
- will you be producing any "regular stock" type Warmachine/Hordes foam?

Suggestions:

- for the bags, I suggest keeping the logos/naming on the "modest" side. By that I mean: as a 36 year old professional, I can't bring myself to carry around a case with a giant imperial eagle on it. "Army Transport" is manageable

(yes, I care what people think. Sue me!). Of course, they are your product so that's just a point of view to keep in mind.

- When you guys get bigger (and I think you will for sure, this is a great product) here's an idea to think about for your website: what if you had a flash application pre-loaded with cutout shapes of all kinds (tanks, 40k troops, bikes, warjacks yadda yadda) and the user simply drags/drops shapes onto a foam template and makes it fit. (kinda like an Ikea cabinet builder online or something like that). They could also enter the text and choose a symbol (to avoid copywrite problems you could simply put a placeholder square rather than actual logos etc). Then the user clicks "add this to cart" or whatever. The user could build entire custom orders that way. Kick butt or what? Granted, would cost some money to have it developed for the web so that's why I say "for when your business grows large".

Congrats on a great product. Love your video.

Jarrett

**Vreda**

Sgt Diablo wrote:Pricing will be done in 3 ways for each bag.

2nd. Pre Loaded - This will be a medium price and get you the bag of choice + pre cut foam. We will have pre cut kits such as the Ork Kit, or the SM Kit and so on. These kits will include troop trays, vehicle trays, and others.

Will there be any Fantasy based options in this catagory? Do you have any pre-cut trays for fantasy calvary?

**Cyporiean**

I'm thinking that the "15 SPACE MARINE BIKES FOAM TRAY (GW) " one would work for Fantasy Calvary, as IIRC Bikers are on rounded 25mmx50mm bases... Expect that it is only 2" thick.

My Cold One standard bearer is about 5" tall

Are the slots on this in the area of 30mmx60mm? And could you make them in say 5~6" thick pieces?

I really can't wait for your cases ^.^

**Battle Foam**

Orangecoke- We suggest straight lines to deal with the small little odd shapes all models have. This does not hold true for war jacks and similar type items. For these we would do round shapes to get the most items per tray. We always try and fit as many models as possible in the trays regardless of shape. The more we can fit and save you money, the better. Also keep in mind that you can submit custom shapes and we'll cut those as ordered by the customer.

Our naming will not go on the bags, but be a way for us to inventory the bags and show them on the site. We also do not believe that a large name or logo looks good, so our bags will never have that. Our bags do not even say battle foam on them. They simply have our basic logo with the BF shield and wings. Simple and clean.

We have already looked into shape movement and placing as a shopping cart option. The cost is not the issue, it is the ever changing line of minis from the major vendors. Since models always change and new releases happen weekly, shapes would always need to be updated. These shapes require a new writing of the program and flash designed with the new shapes. This problem is more about time, then money. It takes days to program just a few shapes, but it takes seconds to grab a pen, trace, and fax in an order.

Also, anyone can trace a model after watching our video. If people had to spend time figuring out how to place a Jump squad of marines, 2 rhinos, and god knows what else, what would we be here for. We make it easy. Send in your trace, and we handle the rest. Simple and easy.

Thanks for the ideas and we plan on many new features and changes as our small business grows.

Vreda- Yes, there will be fantasy based options also. If you wanted to get the Lizardmen combo, you could select that. One thing is for sure. Every kit will include at least 2 of our 1 inch 72 troop trays. These trays will be available to order later, but a minimum of 2 will come with every pre cut kit.

**BLARGAG!!!**

Ok, Review (ie praise) time:

Today i got a LARGE package from Romeo and the guys at Battle Foam. I was elated even before I opened the package. Before I go any further, I think i should re-cap what I ordered (and it was a lot). I ordered 3 of the 40 troop trays, 1 of the scout biker trays, 1 tray that holds 4 Exorcist Tanks, and (what ended up being) 3 custom cut trays (for my repentia and penitent engines). So I was understandably apprehensive about the large amount of money that i spent (over $100 USD). Needless to say, I am VERY happy with my purchase. I was a little nervous when i first saw the custom trays, because the cut outs looked a bit small, but it turns out that they are exactly the right size. The sad part is, that even with all of this schnazzy custom foam, I STILL cant fit my entire army into 2 Sabol Army Transports. But that is probably the function of me having a truly massive amount of tanks in my army (like 14 or so).

So, I urge you all to support Romeo and the gang and buy some amazing foam from them. It is truly amazing!

Keep up the great work Romeo! I might even end up buying one of your new army transports at some point for my up and coming Ultramarines army (if I ever have any more money that is!

)

ttfn (tata for now)!
BLARGAG!!!

**Battle Foam**

Thanks a bunch for the kind words. We are really working hard to build this business the right way. We have so many good ideas on the table for this year that I get all excited just writing about it. Glad those trays came out the way you liked.

Post some pics if you have time. I know a few guys on here are wondering about all of those odd models. I know it was a bear of a time getting them just right.

Looking forward to working with you in the future. Talk to you soon.

Romeo

**chaplaingrabthar**

I've got to say that from my usual gaming hang outs that Battle Foam is one of two companies that seem to get virtually 100% positive feedback. The other is Neal at the Warstore, and that is rarefied company indeed.

**Orangecoke**

Hey Romeo - I tried using the contact form on your site but not sure if it worked and I see you are on here often. Where can I find a link to your shipping rates (International in particular)?

**Druidic**

Looks good, very good. Slightly expensive for my taste, but adding the logo and close cut makes up for that.

I sincearly wish you all the best of luck!

**malfred**

Please let me know if/when you ever do premade foam for Warmachine/Hordes or Fantasy. I'm
not really interested in tracing my miniatures (lol). I might as well pick and pluck if I'm going
to do that.