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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 13:34:00
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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It's like red paint...but not.
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 13:37:12
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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"Who goes there?"
"It is I, the Emperor, from Terra. Ruler of all Mankind!"
"Pull the other one!"
"I am, and this is my trusty servant Patsy. We have traveled the length and breadth of the galaxy in search of men who will join me in my court at Terra. I must speak with your lord and master."
"What? Traveled in a spaceship?"
"Yes!"
"You're using coconuts!"
"What?"
"You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together."
"So?"
"Where'd you get the coconuts?"
"We found them."
"Found them? On Fenris? The coconut's tropical!"
"What do you mean?"
"Well, this is an ice planet!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 13:42:56
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Just Dave wrote:
The Emperor the Emperor?
Oh...
SaintHazard wrote:Also Ferrus Manus, with his manus ferrus. 
And Konrad Curze, who is based on a character from the novel ''Heart of Darkness''.
And Jaghatai Khan= Genghis Khan.
Has GW stolen all Primarch names from a third party?
The plot thickens........
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 14:18:38
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
Princedom of Buenos Aires
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Saint Hazard, don't make me laugh while I'm at work xD might get in troubles (let's not debate why I'm on Dakka while at work )
And, somehow, it makes sense that in Fenris you could find the fell beast of Arrgh in ia cave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 16:49:48
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Ediin wrote:Just Dave wrote:
The Emperor the Emperor?
Oh...
SaintHazard wrote:Also Ferrus Manus, with his manus ferrus. 
And Konrad Curze, who is based on a character from the novel ''Heart of Darkness''.
That one gets better when you think about the name of the assassin that killed him!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 17:11:58
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I love that whole Martin Sheen (M'Shen)/apocalypse now thing personally! Quite witty IMHO.
Anyways:
9th: "These boots are made for stamping and that's just what they'll do."
Genghis Khan in Space! Need I say more?!
...What? I do? OK...
Khan is without doubt an uber-cool dude. I admit, he may lack a bit of the ol' depth, but he is just so, so cool! Look at that picture, look at it! How cool does he look?! He's wearing bronze and red, a freakin' awesome top-knot (a cool one though) and is covered in spikes!
Wait... It gets better! Look at that sword (just imagine less of a curve!), you can tell he carves the Ork up at Christmas with that man-sword! Also, notice his man-tash? That is sooo cool! And his coolness doesn't stop there, oh no. See his heels and fur-lined cape?! How much of an utter fashion-ignorant but massively confident super-human warrior must you be to wear those?! If he came to me looking like that, I'd surrender then and there!*
Khan must have levels of endurance and pain-threshold un-matched by any of the other Primarch's if he can battle across the galaxy in heels!
I haven't stopped, at the Siege of Terra Khan was witnessed going into battle standing atop a Razorback!** Imagine the dude you see above standing atop a battle-tank, riding into battle cutting down anyone who stands in his way! Khan is freakin' awesome! A furious, majestic image of a primarch, the visage of the Emperors wrath honed into one super-human being!
Khan also has some substance behind his exterior of uber-coolness (jealous Angron?). He's a loyalist Primarch and combine that with his upbringing and Legion's character and you can tell he's a guy that utterly believes in loyalty and honour. Loyalty and Honour. Gladiator-style!
Also, the White Scars and Khan seem to receive comparatively little credit for their efforts in the Siege of Terra. The Fists were camping out (not Emperors Children kind of camping!) on Terra the whole time and Sanguinus kicked the proverbial bucket. But the White Scars, they fought at the head of the loyalists and took the fight to the traitors, trying to keep them on the back foot and away from the Palace and civilians, not that anyone remembers!
Finally, Khan moulded his Legion into an utterly brutal and scarily efficient force. Let me put it like this; Space Marines are naturally incredibly tough and incredibly dangerous. So they have the strength and toughness equivalent to a sledge hammer. What could make this sledge hammer even more deadly/powerful? Velocity, that's what. Combine the Space Marines natural strength and toughness with speed and they'll be nigh on unstoppable.
So why then, if he is so cool, is Khan only 9th? Simply put, because we know so little about the guy. It's a damned shame as he's a helluva character, but sadly, it's true. Also, not everyone finds him as cool as I do. But it is my list! Mwhahahahehehehohoho...
* Just Dave does not endorse or criticise cross-dressing in any way, remember those cage-fighters dressed as women in the news?! Well Khan makes them look like sissy's!
** Technically Razorbacks weren't around during the Heresy. Maybe he did it riding atop a pony or something? Hell, that'd be cooler actually!
*** There wasn't a 3 asterisk note, I just wanted to put another one in. I have urges, so what?!
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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 17:12:04
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@Alpharius
Hah! Nice! It took me a second to make the connection... but M'shen = Martin Sheen! Who played Captain Benjamin Willard in Apocalypse Now, who killed Colonel Walter Kurtz, who's based (as well as the rest of the movie) on the character of Kurtz in Joseph Conrad (Konrad)'s novel Heart of Darkness!
Wow.
I am a huge fan of both Heart of Darkness and Apocalypse Now, and I never made this connection until now.
Kurze is now officially my favorite Primarch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 17:17:44
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ninja'd
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 17:20:37
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I bet Kahn is wearing fishnets under those boots...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 17:47:59
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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It's a real shame than the White Scars don't get more development. I think its because doing a motorcycle-borne chapter book without having it come off as cheesy is really difficult.
We'll see in "Hunt for Voldorius" coming out soon which features the top 3 legions never written about: White Scars, Raven Guard and Alpha Legion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 17:55:02
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah I agree, I think it'd be a good opportunity for GW though due to the character of the Legion and the cost of the biker kits!
Also, I doubt being white helps...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 18:06:37
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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The first 3 HH books made being white cool. Luna Wolves were so badass they were just like we're having pride in our super shiny armour cuz you can't touch us anyway. On the other hand not sure what it has to do with Mogolians....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 18:10:37
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I meant painting it...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 18:12:26
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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oh yeah....ya that sucks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 18:33:19
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Martin Sheen, M'Shen.......
WHY, JERVIS, WHY???!!
This means that GW never ever invent characters themse-*BLAM*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:03:44
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If you think that's bad... read this entry on Wikipedia... especially the last two paragraphs. I knew that was too stupid a name not to be connected to something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:06:31
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm still not entirely clear on what that's "bad," but alright.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:12:10
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I just get tired of GW "borrowing" damn near everything from other sources, whether it's other science fiction or puns in names... makes we wonder if anyone over there ever had an original thought that was worth putting down on paper...
I'd of been much happier if they'd have just called him Lionel Johnson... rather than making a nonsensical name out of it. If you want the primarch as a tribute to the poet.. that's cool, just kind of a dumb way to modify his name. If you're going to do it, then do it... don't muck about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:13:56
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fair enough, I guess. At least while 40k borrows from numerous sources, it doesn't hide it.
It could be worse.
They could be Blizzard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:19:02
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Point well taken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:29:54
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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D&D 40,000?
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 19:31:00
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sanctjud wrote:D&D 40,000?
Actually, Tolkien 40,000 would be more accurate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 20:23:04
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Gitsplitta wrote:I just get tired of GW "borrowing" damn near everything from other sources, whether it's other science fiction or puns in names... makes we wonder if anyone over there ever had an original thought that was worth putting down on paper...
I'd of been much happier if they'd have just called him Lionel Johnson... rather than making a nonsensical name out of it. If you want the primarch as a tribute to the poet.. that's cool, just kind of a dumb way to modify his name. If you're going to do it, then do it... don't muck about.
Actually, IMHO I quite like it (except the blatant ones, Angron!) I think it's quirky and kind of funny. Atleast they don't do it themselves and then get someone really crappy! I mean, Kurze is a cool name IMO.
Also, this'll be from the time where it was much more of a 'jokey' WH40K with the planet called Birmingham etc...
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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 20:32:47
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ah yes... "the days of humor"... had forgotten those 'd even existed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 20:33:47
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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This is one of those threads that I've read every post.
There's not many I can say that about however this one has me totally hooked.
I'm glad to see that Dorn made it in to your top ten Just Dave.
I do have a soft spot for him as I do have a BT army.
Something about the way he stood up for his beliefs after the heresy and only backed down when it would have done more harm to the imperium.
That's why I like him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 20:36:39
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Brother Bartius wrote:This is one of those threads that I've read every post.
There's not many I can say that about however this one has me totally hooked.
I'm glad to see that Dorn made it in to your top ten Just Dave.
I do have a soft spot for him as I do have a BT army.
Something about the way he stood up for his beliefs after the heresy and only backed down when it would have done more harm to the imperium.
That's why I like him.
 <--- tears of joy my man.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 20:38:28
Subject: Re:Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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I'm glad Konrad's in the top 10. He has to be my favorite Traitor Primarch.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/27 21:32:48
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Morty will get number 7...Nurgle would approve
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 00:29:58
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Just Dave wrote:Brother Bartius wrote:This is one of those threads that I've read every post.
There's not many I can say that about however this one has me totally hooked.
I'm glad to see that Dorn made it in to your top ten Just Dave.
I do have a soft spot for him as I do have a BT army.
Something about the way he stood up for his beliefs after the heresy and only backed down when it would have done more harm to the imperium.
That's why I like him.
 <--- tears of joy my man.
Ah! so he's close to your own heart then - either that or your more than happy I've read all the posts!
Great thread, thanks whatever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 01:55:47
Subject: Celebrating 1000 posts by ranking the Primarchs!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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The list is great I can't wait for the next Primarch.
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