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Decrepit Dakkanaut







Lookin good man!

But don't overdo it, get better.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle






Near Boston

dsteingass wrote:Lookin good man!

But don't overdo it, get better.


Apparently made my FNP save... Was vicious and (thankfully) short.

Made the moldboxes up for the two small bulkheads.
Pics...




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Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

i really like the ornamental rivet pattern! that is very cool looking!

also...good to see you up and about! hopefully you are restored to normal soon...had to go to bed early yesterday too... was feeling a bit depleted too...if the body asks for a pause...give it to him... he is on the longer lever anyway^^

   
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot





UK

Nice arch and rivets …… glad you are on the mend
   
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Near Boston

Aaaaannd Now my car is dead... for now... The fuel pump STBd today half way into a 3hr drive to a meeting for potential biz involvement/Event planning...



This is not a very good week for me... Sigh.

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"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
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Berlin Germany

oh bloody hell... now that is looking like a stroke of bad kharma...

   
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UK

Dude they come in threes watch out
   
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Near Boston

Viktor von Domm wrote:oh bloody hell... now that is looking like a stroke of bad kharma...

Yep.

lone dirty dog wrote:Dude they come in threes watch out


Indeed.

After taking a nap to De-brainfry, I pulled the first two molds for the two short bulkead masters. (Poured the RTV sillicone at around 11am, was fully cured by apx 6pm EST)

Filled them with a quick and dirty mix. The results... the "octagonal" bulkead came out... OK, the "arch" not so much... Not sure if it's a mold issue, or a result of my halfassing the mix.

Pics of the first cast.


Now I've started to get all sciencey about my mix...

Running two test mixes at the moment both are probably too water heavy but if the Detail is OK I can easily backfill to pull from molds without really endangering detail...

Formula is Ratio (Dental stone:water); Stone amount, water amount : Result
Mix 1 "1:1"
1:1 ; 51g Excalibur : 50g tapwater : (in progress)

Mix 2 "1:2"
1:2 ; 51g Excalibur : 103g tapwater : (in progress)

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Berlin Germany

going all science never hurt! a good formula is nothing to sneeze at... !!!

as for the bit slacky looking arch... just saw it out and you have a nice walkthrough...

   
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Near Boston

also realized i'd made a minor design glitch with my Base wall design. (its not fully symetrical) so it makes for an odd "corner" I'll be redesigning that type of panel into a simple flat as I built a "T" type connector (need to GS gaps, and add rivets...) I'll get Pics of what I meant up when I get up... Also Pics of the Mix test results...

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UK

Practice makes perfect the arch could just be really badly effected by rust, hence the crumbling look to it.

Good luck with test runs, I remember using Linka moulds and having problems with finished set, with a little of knowledge I soon got it sorted.
   
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Berlin Germany

didn´t see no design glitch... but then again it makes a lot of difference to see a piece actually in your hand...

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







Oh man that sucks, nothing frustrates me more than car troubles. but no worries. I use 2:1 mix with the Permastone, with a couple of extra drops of water to help it flow.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in us
Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle






Near Boston

lone dirty dog wrote:Practice makes perfect the arch could just be really badly effected by rust, hence the crumbling look to it.

Good luck with test runs, I remember using Linka moulds and having problems with finished set, with a little of knowledge I soon got it sorted.


That's a thought...

Viktor von Domm wrote:didn´t see no design glitch... but then again it makes a lot of difference to see a piece actually in your hand...

Yes Yes it does...

On to the Pics.

Results




The odd corner




WIP "T" connecter






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Berlin Germany

well acording to science methods you should ahve presented equal models to test your methods... the 1:2 looks slightly more bubbly... but i can´t really say for sure... the formula has to be tweaked a bit still it seems?

as for the t-connector...very useful new part!!!

   
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Yeah, the wages of thinner mix is bubbles, (those little tiny bastards that don't seem to pop) sadly.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
What do you think of a set of Fallout vault-ish walls along the same line as the floor panels?
And utilizing your ingenious little T-junction method?

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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

hey there is a thought... what about making that vault main door/gate? the one shaped as a giant cog?

   
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Near Boston

dsteingass wrote:Yeah, the wages of thinner mix is bubbles, (those little tiny bastards that don't seem to pop) sadly.

What do you think of a set of Fallout vault-ish walls along the same line as the floor panels?
And utilizing your ingenious little T-junction method?


Those would be neat.

For compatibility reference for construction of "master" items. I'm using Evergreen 1/4" (6.4mm) I-Beams as the basis for the "connection channels, and Evergreen .187"x.312" (4.8mm x 7.9mm) rectangular tubes for the "connector" planks.

Viktor von Domm wrote:hey there is a thought... what about making that vault main door/gate? the one shaped as a giant cog?


Doable. Finicky but very Doable.

On to The Pics for the evening...

Second cast at ratio 1:1 (more finicky debubbling of the mold with "wet water")... Result.... SUCCESS!!!!
First cast is on the Right, and is a lighter color (as it has cured further...)

Octagonal panel


Arch


Overview (with GS gap filling on the "T" connector and "Base" flat panel done)


Closeup of the first cast of the arch at Ratio 1:2


GS gap filling on the "T" connector and "Base" flat panel closeup


The "T" connector and "Base" flat panel closeup with rivets


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Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut







MMMM Rivets! Nice casts! Very Clean!

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot





UK

The new mix is looking way better the detail is more crisp and the definition is all there I would say SUCCESS !!! as well


   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

i can only chime in on all the praise...see science again paid off^^

   
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Regular Dakkanaut






very nice!

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Near Boston

The flat "base" panel is now in RTV sillicone becoming a new mold... Pics when I have em.

Link to my Index Thread here on dakka


Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone

Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
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California + Philidelphia

these walls are looking great galorn!

[
"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
 
   
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dsteingass wrote:MMMM Rivets! Nice casts! Very Clean!


Thanks.
lone dirty dog wrote:The new mix is looking way better the detail is more crisp and the definition is all there I would say SUCCESS !!! as well



Yep.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i can only chime in on all the praise...see science again paid off^^


It usually does.

Thortek wrote:very nice!


Thanks.

Rogue Wolves wrote:these walls are looking great galorn!


Thanks.


On to Pics. a cast of the "base wall section" without "wet watering" the mold (to see how it would come out) using 1:1 ratio mix

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Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone

Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
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Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways

Very nice sets of walls you got going on there

   
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Berlin Germany

the last one looks rather sharp...although the rivets yet again didn´t made it...hmmm...

   
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Near Boston

SilverMK2 wrote:Very nice sets of walls you got going on there


Thanks.

Viktor von Domm wrote:the last one looks rather sharp...although the rivets yet again didn´t made it...hmmm...


Yep It confirms that I'll have to use "wet water" techniques EVERY TIME for good results. That's all.

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Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
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UK

The Rivets seem to look like they are melting all most but otherwise great stuff
   
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First cast (using Wet water) of the Base flat panel is up...


Link to my Index Thread here on dakka


Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone

Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
 
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