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**Ahtman**

malfred wrote:Did they make it possible to trade items between toons on the same account?

Or do you still have to make an empty game and drop stuff on the ground?

There is a chest in town and everything you put in it is shared between all your characters. I think it starts with 8 spots but you spend gold to increase it's capacity.

**JohnnoM**

has anyone clocked it yet? Because my friend clocked it in 12 hours, and has pictures to prove it.

**Dreadwinter**

I want to see those pictures. Also, do you mean 12 hours for normal mode completion or to 60. Because they both seem fairly silly.

**Doctadeth**

Hate the fact that offline playing is impossible. Makes people in remote locations from the server almost impossible. And my ISP is very annoying (although thats probably the amount of people playing D3 on it!)

**Soladrin**

Dreadwinter wrote:I want to see those pictures. Also, do you mean 12 hours for normal mode completion or to 60. Because they both seem fairly silly.

Running through normal within in 12 is easy... I did it in 10. Nightmare in 8, and did hell act 1 in about 3 hours.

**Dreadwinter**

In hindsight, I could believe that. I haven't had a lot of time to play until now so the game seems to go a lot slower for me.

**Anpu-adom**

I'm really enjoying things so far. Here's my review:

Pros:
Feels like Diablo II
I love the bonus exp from massive hits, etc.
I love that the merchants actually have gear that you might want.
I really like the checkpoint system... being able to jump right in basically where you left off, is great. (Especially important because I'm a father with young kids...)

Cons:
Need for a constant connection for DRM... grr...

**Karon**

The constant internet connection is, without a doubt, the current blunder of the decade - next to the ME3 ending.

Playing with 3 other Bro's is really irritating when we all get some sort of little lag due to the servers, as well as getting the dreaded error 3007 which kicks all of us off at different times.

Diablo is a singeplayer game - I shouldn't need to be on the fething internet.

**Platuan4th**

Karon wrote:Diablo is a singeplayer game

This has never really been true. It is and always has been both single and multiplayer. For the vast majority of people(in my experience), Diablo games are a Multiplayer game that happens to have singleplayer, not the reverse.

I never would have bought the first one if it had been a single player game.

**LordofHats**

There was a very good article on Forbes (try and find it in a bit) where the author pointed out the key reason for the always online DRM.

The real money auction house. Blizzard has to keep the game under their control and monitored to prevent item cloning, hacking, or other such nonsense, from hitting their profits and reducing the "legitimacy" of exchanges.

At the end of the day, whether the game is single player, multi-player, or co-op, or w/e, doesn't really matter that much.

EDIT: Found it: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/05/16/the-real-reason-there-will-never-be-offline-single-player-in-diablo-3/

Blizzard risks cannibalizing itself with Diablo 3. Many World of Warcraft players will likely leave that game to make the switch to Diablo, a title without a $15 a month fee attached. That’s why Blizzard is banking hard on their new Auction House in D3 that’s supposed to be a big source of revenue for them. With it, Blizzard has essentially legalized item farming and selling for real world money, but now it’s an official system that goes through them instead of eBay. Blizzard takes a cut of each transaction, and by doing nothing at all, they have a steady source of revenue from those buying virtual items on the (no longer black) market.

But in order for this to work, there can’t be ANY chance of item duping or fake gear or any of the issues that plagued Diablo 2. In order to ensure this doesn’t happen, EVERYTHING in the game has to take place on Blizzard’s servers, as no amount of hacking should be able to produce faux items to sell in the store if everything is stored off-site. Always-on DRM is not in place for piracy’s sake, it’s for the good of the auction house.

This revelation is meant to quiet those who think that Blizzard can simply patch the game to have an offline mode if enough people complain. Those who are requesting such a thing don’t have a grasp on why Blizzard is going all-online, or how hard it would be to actually craft an “offline mode.” It’s not as simple as cutting the ethernet cord. To make a stand alone single player game that wasn’t based on the servers would practically take as much work as making an entirely new title.

Don't agree with the full article myself, but he raises an interesting point that's received little attention.

**Dreadwinter**

I honestly do not have a problem with Diablo 3 being online only. Diablo 2 was a very pirated game and I can see their issues with wanting to protect themselves in this way.

It is bad that people with no access to the internet cannot play. I feel for them, that sucks.

But people with the internet throwing fits about the game being online only really makes no sense to me.

**LunaHound**

Does weapon dps contribute to spell damage for Sorceror and Witch Doctors? Or just Intel?

**Soladrin**

Seeing as all skills have damage in % of weapon damage, you can be pretty sure that the weapon is the most important

Int on Wiz and WD only adds %dmg to your weapon. (1 int = 1% dmg).

Also, just reached level 60, completed act 3 on hell, and got my secret level stuff up to nightmare level.

The secret level is the best thing ever, especialy for a brony hater like me.

**LunaHound**

Soladrin wrote:The secret level is the best thing ever, especialy for a brony hater like me.

Everyone wins!

**Soladrin**

Killing unicorns, ponies, teddy bears and flowers is very cathartic...

**warpcrafter**

my observations after getting to the second act.

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Spoiler:

**-Loki-**

JohnnoM wrote:has anyone clocked it yet? Because my friend clocked it in 12 hours, and has pictures to prove it.

Is there a point to finishing something as quickly as possible? I mean, you wait 12 years for the game. Enjoy the thing.

**Palindrome**

LordofHats wrote:There was a very good article on Forbes (try and find it in a bit) where the author pointed out the key reason for the always online DRM.

The real money auction house.

Undoubtably true. Its a shame that a lot of accounts seem to have been hacked though, destablising the RMAH and making a mockery of the notion that the always on requirement would eliminate hacking. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149008518?page=5. Its possible that this is little more than phishing but it seems to be too widespread for that.

I don't think there is anything else that could do wrong with the D3 launch now. Hopefully no one else will be foolish enough to inflict an always on requirement for games which are designed to be played single player (like D3).

Incedentally Blizzard have said that 60% of D2 players never went online.

**Asherian Command**

warpcrafter wrote:my observations after getting to the second act.

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Spoiler:

Was I the only one who is sad that Deckard Caine is dead? And why does every goddamned fantasy video game have to have spiders! It's a worse cliche than pirates.

Spiders have been in diablo since the first game. So it is not cliche if they decided to bring back spiders as there was also a spider boss in the original diablo.

**Doctadeth**

Asherian Command wrote:
warpcrafter wrote:my observations after getting to the second act.

i

Spoiler:

Was I the only one who is sad that Deckard Caine is dead? And why does every goddamned fantasy video game have to have spiders! It's a worse cliche than pirates.

Spiders have been in diablo since the first game. So it is not cliche if they decided to bring back spiders as there was also a spider boss in the original diablo.

Just checked on planetdiablo. You are wrong. Diablo 3 is the FIRST diablo to feature spiders. I was also slightly sad that Cain died, But after the star fell at the start, I thought he had died myself, so it was a little lesser. I love the forgotten ruins, its so awesome. Oh, did anyone have any trouble with a mad hermit guy who reheals really really fast?

**Soladrin**

Doctadeth wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
warpcrafter wrote:my observations after getting to the second act.

i

Spoiler:

Was I the only one who is sad that Deckard Caine is dead? And why does every goddamned fantasy video game have to have spiders! It's a worse cliche than pirates.

Spiders have been in diablo since the first game. So it is not cliche if they decided to bring back spiders as there was also a spider boss in the original diablo.

Just checked on planetdiablo. You are wrong. Diablo 3 is the FIRST diablo to feature spiders. I was also slightly sad that Cain died, But after the star fell at the start, I thought he had died myself, so it was a little lesser. I love the forgotten ruins, its so awesome. Oh, did anyone have any trouble with a mad hermit guy who reheals really really fast?

Then you checked wrong lol.

**Doctadeth**

Is that hellfire? or the vanilla game.

**Soladrin**

That is diablo 2, act 3 was full of spiders.

I get battle.net is down for maintenence, anyone else getting this?

(on EU servers anyway).

**Doctadeth**

Ah well, diablo-net is down anyways. It's not like its from the first game anyway, and they aren't bosses either. There's a mini-boss, but not a major boss like Her.

**Soladrin**

Yeah, don't think d1 had spiders. But, why does it matter?

**WarOne**

Diablo 3 is still running fine here in America.

Also, is anyone else disturbed by where a Witch Doctor's frogs come from?

**Palindrome**

Virtually all the caves in the early part of Diablo 2 Act 3 had spiders, thats the only place that I can remember them (there may have been some in the ice caves in act 5 though).

**Soladrin**

Well, on hell you could find any enemy in any act.

**Doctadeth**

My bad.

http://www.planetdiablo.com/expansiond2/monsters/monsters.asp?mcid=39

**Revenent Reiko**

Soladrin wrote:That is diablo 2, act 3 was full of spiders.

FULL of spiders.

Also, i always thought of Andariel as a bit of a spider queen,,,,extra arms and a poison attack...

I get battle.net is down for maintenence, anyone else getting this? (on EU servers anyway).

yeah im getting this. Super annoying as i dont think we hit a checkpoint before being kicked...(playing with a friend)