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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 04:37:10
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Omegus wrote:Curze painted the floor with the Lion's brains after the Lion sucker-stabbed him.
This being after Lion was down-right embarrassing Curze with his sword, forcing him to turn it into a brawl where he could actually do damage.
Context brah.
Curze would probably beat Russ as badly as he did Lion were it an actual fisticuffs brawl, but with actual weapons, lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 05:36:39
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Omegus wrote:Russ fought the Lion for a week and got knocked the feth out. Curze painted the floor with the Lion's brains after the Lion sucker-stabbed him.
Check your facts, Because Russ stopped fighting and started laughing after realising how stupid the fight was. Lion, being incapable of a sense of humour, then suckerpunched him. He did not knock Russ out during the fight,
Russ would make Curze his bitch, and Sanguinius too. Only primarchs who could hold a candle to Russ in cc were Horus and Angron, and Russ beat one of them in a training bout, while the other was lobotomised...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 05:49:25
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Frankly I think Leman Russ would murderstomp Konrad Curze, honestly. While Curze might hold an advantage in h2h, I doubt it would come to that, and Russ is by showings physically more dominant.
Sanguinius? Probably not. They are at least peers in h2h, only Sanguinius has some amount of psychic advantage, and is faster due to his wings.
Also, Leman Russ never beat Horus in a duel, cease this mummer's farce. That claim has been circulating Dakka and the web for ages, yet has never once been proven. Just like "Doombreed is the strongerest Daemon Prince" or the similar "Valdor beat Horus in a duel."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 09:21:17
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Sanguinius could wipe Russ. They would duel for a little, Russ would go crazy eyes, Sangy would go volcano on his ass and cut off several body parts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 10:17:04
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Stonerhino wrote:Codex SW 2nd Ed wrote:Leman Russ was the most ferocious of the primarchs, a giant even among the Emperor's chosen, a great brawling warrior, fiercely loyal to his friends and a terror to his enemies.
It's not ignoring Corax's statement. It's recognizing that it is just the opinion of one person in universe. And one person who has a Captain from his own Legion make a bet saying that Russ will be the one to kill Horus. We also have Lorgar using Russ and Khan to threaten Angron in Butcher's Nails. Knowing full well that the SWs are weakened after Prospero.
So one person saying that only Horus and Sanguinius are the only one that can beat Angron. doesn't mean much when viewed through a wider lens.
Finally - some intelligence in the thread...again,dudes let's not stick to one opinion as ULTIMATE GUIDE in ranking primarchs
btw Dorn thought that he could put down Angron - checked Dorn > Angron
random captain said that Russ could kill Horus - checked Russ > Horus
Magnus thought that he can feth the chaos gods - cheked Magnus > Chaos Gods
just jesting,but think - like ADB said with primarchs there isn't A>B>C>D its like D>A or C>A and mentioning sucker punch from Lion its pretty low Omegus,even by your standards...
btw Russ would bite off Sanguinius wings and spit the feathers - it would be like weasel in the chicken house :-) Automatically Appended Next Post: Bran Dawri wrote: Omegus wrote:Russ fought the Lion for a week and got knocked the feth out. Curze painted the floor with the Lion's brains after the Lion sucker-stabbed him.
Check your facts, Because Russ stopped fighting and started laughing after realising how stupid the fight was. Lion, being incapable of a sense of humour, then suckerpunched him. He did not knock Russ out during the fight,
Russ would make Curze his bitch, and Sanguinius too. Only primarchs who could hold a candle to Russ in cc were Horus and Angron, and Russ beat one of them in a training bout, while the other was lobotomised...
He knows that - he is just trying to get us pissed...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 10:40:48
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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It will be interesting if forgeworld go into detail on this in their new releases, Angron being granted the title The Undefeated seems fairly cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 21:50:05
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 22:40:20
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/05 09:33:50
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 02:09:53
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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well, this be a real mature conversation I've walked into. Automatically Appended Next Post: Bran Dawri wrote:
Check your facts, Because Russ stopped fighting and started laughing after realising how stupid the fight was. Lion, being incapable of a sense of humour, then suckerpunched him. He did not knock Russ out during the fight
Since when does starting to laugh maniacally in a fight spells the end of the fight? He opened up, and the Lion landed an easy knockout. That's not a suckerpunch, that's being an idiot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 06:03:48
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Sanguinius is one of the most highly regarded Primarchs in martial combat, you really have no basis to believe Leman Russ would easily school Sanguinius, or even beat him at all.
If you are going to childishly mock and deride anyone with an opinion that dissents from your own, why post on a board meant for discussion?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 08:40:41
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 09:34:48
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Please don't spam the boards. Especially with juvenile rubbish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 11:25:23
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Kovnik Obama wrote:well, this be a real mature conversation I've walked into.
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Bran Dawri wrote:
Check your facts, Because Russ stopped fighting and started laughing after realising how stupid the fight was. Lion, being incapable of a sense of humour, then suckerpunched him. He did not knock Russ out during the fight
Since when does starting to laugh maniacally in a fight spells the end of the fight? He opened up, and the Lion landed an easy knockout. That's not a suckerpunch, that's being an idiot.
Being an idot is unable to reckognize when someone STOPS fighting and smiles, thinking that he mocks you...
and it was brotherly brawl (non lethal) nothing else...Funny for once Russ is mature while Lion is oversensitive douchebag...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 12:25:22
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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DarthMarko wrote:
and it was brotherly brawl (non lethal) nothing else...Funny for once Russ is mature while Lion is oversensitive douchebag...
It was not a brotherly brawl, none of the instances that the Lion and Russ came to blows over were brotherly signs of affection. Sure, the end of the encounter on Dulan was a sign of, I guess, forgiveness on Russ' behalf, but you could argue as the instigator of the fight he was the over sensitive douchebag in the first instance.
From the Space Wolves description of events yeah, Russ was right to smack the Lion in the chops, from the Dark Angel telling, Russ was being a whiny girl.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 12:33:36
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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:-)Yeah, but still it's a damn miracle that Russ is the one who stopped fighting and came to reason....If it was a vice-versa situation everybody would piss on Russ with ease (like calling him dirty prick or something)
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 12:49:37
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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DarthMarko wrote::-)Yeah, but still it is a damn miracle that Russ is the one who stopped fighting and come to reason....if it was a vice versa situation everybody would piss on Russ with ease (like calling him dirty prick or something)
Language Timothy
It does seem to be a personality flaw with the Lion, that he can't judge anyone's character at all.
Also two sides of a coin Russ is fast to anger, fast to forget, Lion is slow to anger, slow to forget.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 13:09:18
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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which makes you not to mess with him - because he can hit you when you least expect and just like the guy from CSI - walk away,
btw that's why he was tactical genius...but big ego maniac and paranoid ....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 18:07:50
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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I think he was a sociopath personally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 21:33:05
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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The Lion? I don't know if I'd go so far as to call him a sociopath. He's definitely the socially awkward kid in the class though.
Hmm, that'd be an interesting comparison. Which high school stereotype is each Primarch?
Horus: Best of Class, obviously
Lion: The loner. He just doesn't get people, so he'd rather be left alone.
Russ: The jock who's good at everything. Strangely, he and emo-kidm are best friends. Arrogant son of a gun though, so not everyone likes him.
Guilliman: The wannabe.
Angron: the dumb jock, who's angry at everyone else for being smarter than him.
Mortarion: The kid without a shower.
Magnus: The nerd.
Sanguinius: The pretty jock who everyone likes and is actually a genuinely nice guy.
Okay, someone else come up with the rest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 05:41:46
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Magnus can only really be considered a "nerd" if "nerds" where you are from are both giants among men and built like trains, lol.
Leman Russ would clearly be a book-dumb jock, I mean, he perpetuates a culture that disallows writing and reading and burns libraries. Cunning, but not educated.
Also, the Lion is a disloyal, traitorous slime, lacking empathy for anyone or anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 06:17:27
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Bran Dawri wrote:The Lion? I don't know if I'd go so far as to call him a sociopath. He's definitely the socially awkward kid in the class though.
Hmm, that'd be an interesting comparison. Which high school stereotype is each Primarch?
Horus: Best of Class, obviously
Lion: The loner. He just doesn't get people, so he'd rather be left alone.
Russ: The jock who's good at everything. Strangely, he and emo-kidm are best friends. Arrogant son of a gun though, so not everyone likes him.
Guilliman: The wannabe.
Angron: the dumb jock, who's angry at everyone else for being smarter than him.
Mortarion: The kid without a shower.
Magnus: The nerd.
Sanguinius: The pretty jock who everyone likes and is actually a genuinely nice guy.
Okay, someone else come up with the rest.
Hmmm, let me take a crack at it.
Horus: Best in Class
Sanguinius: The pretty jock who everyone likes and is actually a genuinely nice guy.
Magnus: The nerd.
Lion: The weird kid who takes everything to heart.
Russ: The jock who is always very intense.
Guilliman: The by the book guy who always follows the rules
Angron: The bully who is always looking for a fight.
Mortarion:
Dorn:
Kurze: The creepy guy.
Lorgar: The preachy guy.
Fulgrim: The pretty boy always needing to have the best stuff
Pertuabo:
Ferrus: The techie geek.
Vulkan: The guys who is good at shop.
Corax:
Alpharius Omegon: Twins\friends that are always pulling pranks.
These are the ones I can come up with at the moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 07:46:21
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Khan's the exchange student.
Primarchs 2 and 11 are the one that are always sick/not in class.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 17:03:56
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Bran Dawri wrote:. Only primarchs who could hold a candle to Russ in cc were Horus and Angron, and Russ beat one of them in a training bout, while the other was lobotomised...
Until you can provide a reference for that duel, I label you liar and rabid fanboy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 19:35:02
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Void__Dragon wrote:
Also, the Lion is a disloyal, traitorous slime, lacking empathy for anyone or anything.
That's clearly not how he is caracterised, tho. He is an elitist, so he has plenty of empathy, just not for everyone. It might change with time, I haven't red the entire crapola that is the HH, but in the first novel in which he appears he is clearly concerned by the wellfare of his men, and of the future of his planet.
Later on, when he was contemplating siding with Guilliman, or trying to make a move for himself, he clearly stated that there would be no Empire without the Emperor at it's head. Which should be proof enough of his loyalty...
And as far as traitorous... well... He isn't a traitor, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 21:41:58
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Kovnik Obama wrote: Void__Dragon wrote:
Also, the Lion is a disloyal, traitorous slime, lacking empathy for anyone or anything.
That's clearly not how he is caracterised, tho. He is an elitist, so he has plenty of empathy, just not for everyone. It might change with time, I haven't red the entire crapola that is the HH, but in the first novel in which he appears he is clearly concerned by the wellfare of his men, and of the future of his planet.
Later on, when he was contemplating siding with Guilliman, or trying to make a move for himself, he clearly stated that there would be no Empire without the Emperor at it's head. Which should be proof enough of his loyalty...
And as far as traitorous... well... He isn't a traitor, right?
Dude did you read ANY "crapola" about Lion ??? Only sympathy from him is towards his legion,not the IoM...read "the Lion" and "Savage Weapons",then make assumptions....or read them again...
I kind of like it that Lion is complexed guy (like Magnus) -At least we can discuss about him (unlike Angron who is one dimensional)
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 22:00:25
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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DarthMarko wrote:Dude did you read ANY "crapola" about Lion ??? Only sympathy from him is towards his legion,not the IoM...
His Legion or his planet, which he spent his early life making a better place, not to acheive power, but to actually give a better life to his people. Yes, he doesn't care much about the rest of the universe, which is in my opinion a great character trait, since it's perfectly normal.
read "the Lion" and "Savage Weapons",then make assumptions....or read them again...
I kind of like it that Lion is complexed guy (like Magnus) -At least we can discuss about him (unlike Angron who is one dimensional)
I red Descent of Angels. In which he shows a good side of himself, especially in that conversation with Zahariel. Like I said, his character probably changed over time/when represented by different authors.
Also, you really should clean up your writing. It's really cringe-worthy right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 22:15:35
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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First, English isn't my first language so I do apologize to the GRAMMAR POLICE...
Second, read some books before posting conclusions...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/06 22:18:25
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 23:00:03
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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DarthMarko wrote:First, English isn't my first language so I do apologize to the GRAMMAR POLICE...
English isn't my primary langage either, and yet I do efforts. On top of things, it isn't so much your grammar, as it is your whole sentences that are hard to make sense of.
Second, read some books before posting conclusions...
This is your counter? I've just stated a reference to a book which illustrate how he isn't a huge douche, but actually cares about his fellows. I've even allowed the possibility that he could change character throughout the serie. Instead of trolling, you could, if you wanted to actually contribute to these threads, give references to back your own point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 23:25:20
Subject: Leman Russ vs Horus
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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I don't think that Primarchs are much different in cc abilities ... Russ is widely considered one of the best cc fighters while the Lion is considered a tactical one... still, the two proved to be equal in cc prowess... So I seriously doubt that ANY primarch could have fared better than Sang... The Corrupted Horus was simply too much a badass...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 23:26:21
Subject: Re:Leman Russ vs Horus
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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@Kovnik Obama
I did tell you,"the Lion" and "Savage weapons" - read that, it will change your perspective about him...maybe...
P.S.
I do not agee with Void_Dragon always (TS vs SW crap) but this time I share his opinion....
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/10/06 23:29:02
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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