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 Praxiss wrote:
Wargamign is not all expensive.

GW is expensive - especially when you factor in the copsts of the sundried you need. The models are expensive enoguh but then you have to consider tools, brushes, paints, storage etc etc........

Look at it this way, i'm glad i made an apoc army 5 years ago and now just need to get the occaisional unit. Prices have gone up so much just since i started, i dread to think how proper old school gamers must feel.

We have moved on from GW

From Two land Raiders or three Rhinos in a box.

Decent army deals are a thing of the past.

The plethora of gaming systems and models available mean that there is always something to play out there. They were always there really.

 Mr. Burning wrote:

 Praxiss wrote:

Spoiler:

Wargamign is not all expensive.

GW is expensive - especially when you factor in the copsts of the sundried you need. The models are expensive enoguh but then you have to consider tools, brushes, paints, storage etc etc........

Look at it this way, i'm glad i made an apoc army 5 years ago and now just need to get the occaisional unit.

Prices have gone up so much just since i started, i dread to think how proper old school gamers must feel.

We have moved on from GW. From Two land Raiders or three Rhinos in a box. Decent army deals are a thing of the past.

The plethora of gaming systems and models available mean that there is always something to play out there. They were always there really.

Yep, this is pretty much my opinion. Even if they don't completely move on, many Veteran gamers put less emphasis on GW and look into other games as well.

I will say one thing though in counterpoint to the rose colored glasses I tend to put on when thinking about my early gaming years. I have to agree with this statement also:

 Gymnogyps wrote:

GW has always been expensive. The were laughably expensive in the mid-90's when I was making a few dollars more than minimum wage.

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When I started up GW again in the early 2000's, the prices weren't bad because my financial situation was much more comfortable. Today I'm extremely comfortable and GW is back to laughably pricey due to the very rapid price increases over the last several years.

I've also only been playing since the mid 90's, and compared to the competition GW was expensive then. No doubt GW's price raises have accelerated (in frequency and rate) over the years, but GW has priced itself as a premium hobby since at least 1991.

Yeah. Seriously, wargaming isn't that expensive. Comparing it with my previous "hobby", which was going out drinking on weekends, I'm saving so much money now that I quit drinking. When I used to drink, I'd spend ~ £120 (~ $220) per weekend, if I went out only one night. Going out even close to every weekend took all the "disposable" income I had. And that meant I had something to do one night per week.

Now that I've cut drinking and got into painting and playing 40K, and only buying as many models as I can realistically paint in a single month, I've managed to start saving up money, even though my income has been cut more than half.

The place where I buy hobby supplies also sell model railways, and the prices for those things are ridiculous(!!), often in the high £150 for a single carriage or locomotive. And you can't even play games with them. You just turn on the power and watch them go round and round.

I used to play Paintball pretty actively, and if you play more than one day a week, you'll burn through paintballs incredibly fast. And if you're even slightly picky about paintball quality, those things get expensive fast. Then there's markers, protective gear, maintenance, field-hire, air-supply.

About the only thing I can come up with which is cheaper on a minute by minute basis, is hitting a bicycle rim with a stick. yeeersss. Hyperbole, I know, but it's not by much.

As someone who is getting into Warhammer 40k I can say it is very cost prohibitive at first. When you take into account getting started up, A rule-book, a codex, and then a 2 squads and a transport vehicle just to start, if you buy from GW your looking at around $230, that's before paints and hobby supplies that go along with it. after that your probably looking at around $260. Of course after this is all purchased you're only looking at upgrading your army and resupplying paints and hobby stuff, the cost tapers off (unless you decide to switch armies or stuff like that.

With gaming you pay for the beginning system, usually comes with a controller. $250-300 (at that price it comes with a game) If you have a PS3 you just pay for games at that point, 360 is going to cost you another $60 a year for your online play and then games at your own discretion. Not to mention that you get a video player and possibly a music player and a couple of other gadgets along side. I personally have played video games all my life but prefer tabletops games because they usually come with a literal ton of fluff. So I guess that for me it came down to the fact that tabletop games have you pay that money for little pieces of plastic and then have to assembly and paint your toys yourself.

All that being said I gotta say I love the fluff and world that Warhammer 40k presents and is the main reason im willing to sell out 30 bucks for plastic pieces.

I think that it all depends on what all else the person is doing with their money. I started about 3yrs ago and my game store mainly had WHFB/WH40K/Warma/Hordes. I used to play tcgs(Magic) and would do tournaments every week and the guys playing WHFB and WH40k always seemed to be having fun and yelling at each other so I started watching and talking to them and then I decided to quit playing tcgs and invest in warhammer. I won't lie and say that I haven't spent a good penny on this game as I have 3 armies each around 2000ish points for 40k and 3 for fantasy. Most of my stuff I have gotten from the store or ebay and when I can go and buy an entire fantasy army for $350 on ebay and still do good in tournaments i dont think it is so bad. I would spend way more than that on freaking cards... the $15 to enter the tournaments and then i would buy like 4-5 packs at a time and then the big boxes. I spent way more on cards over all and warhammer is cheaper as you dont have to spend as much on it over time. I can just buy an army and quit there unless I want some new thing where as with cards you have to keep updating every other month to play.