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rigeld2 wrote:Note that this sentence isn't referring to the Str10 ID thing that I apologized for, it's referring to the identical list statement. It seems like you crossed the two.

I didn't cross the two, though I didn't make the sentence clear enough; let me rephrase that as 'when the first poster accused me of saying something I didn't say'. My point being I've been very careful in what I said, so I know what I did and didn't imply.

rigeld2 wrote:Not being at the peak of cost efficiency doesn't mean it's not a competitive choice, as it seems you're asserting.

I didn't say anything about the peak of cost efficiency. True some things are more cost efficient than others, but the point is he isn't cost efficient at all and so isn't a competitive choice. You may have a different opinion, but I'd wager most competitive player would not rate a unit competitive if they could do the same thing with a much cheaper unit.

rigeld2 wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/485975/4949521.page
That post was in response to you, it was directed at you. You ignored it and Zebio responded. Therefore you haven't responded to my point, as I said.

Okay. Now point out to me where in that post of mine I said Sisters of Battle were competitive.

I ignored it because at first I didn't feel like it was worth responding to, no offense. The fact is I said after we get the results of several tournaments together we'll see what's good and what isn't, and you tried to invalidate that with hyperbole by saying one single tournament doesn't show anything, which is not what I had said clearly. As far as I'm concerned doing this isn't an argument, so I ignored it the first time.

So when you respond to the post I actually made, i.e. multiple tournament results, then I'll respond to yours. That seems fair to me.

orkimedese wrote:

 L0rdF1end wrote:

Arleucs wrote:
Tried an overexpensive DP:
- MoS (for fleet)
- wings
- power amour
- lvl 3
- spell familiar
- black mace.

rolled biomancy: iron arm+endurance (yay).

Turn 2, charged a squad, killed it (8 out of 10 assault marines, +3 from a nearby squad). the remaning 2 escaped (rolled 1 to chase, opponent rolled 6 ....this ended up killing the DP since he was no longer locked in combat).

Above is probably the best loadout if you can afford it, Difficult to fit this into anything less than1850 and then still becomes a squeeze
75 points for the slim chance of Iron Arm/Endurance or Warp Speed is hard to swallow, considering you only get 2 rolls it doesn't seem worth it.
Even with these powers your DP died way before he earnt his points back. The rest of your army probably sucked because you didnt have any points left lol.

A lesser version to consider is:
- MoN (for shrouding, Keep him in cover in turn 1 and in swoop mode and aim for a 3+ cover save including the shrouding)
- wings
- black mace. (Its AP2 and causes crazy tougness tests that cause ID? errrm yes please always).

Concerning your experience above, you have to think about keeping him in the fight, You do not want your DP coming out of combat in your turn.
To aid you with this it might be a better idea to issue a challenge, once you win it you'll be in combat with the remaining squad in his turn, if you can clear up then you have your turn to get him back into combat again or in swoop mode and/or in cover.

This guy will either die to a couple of bolters or sweep through half an army.

Won't MoN gives him Slow and P, so he cant run or sweep. He will win his first round of cc and then be standing by himself waiting to be shot.

You've got to come out of combat at some point, whether you clean up, dont catch them or do a sweeping advance. Considering this S&P isnt that bad.
Getting to the combat is the tricky part. Last time I used one he got knocked out of the sky by bolters and then vindicatored. Kinda put me off the DP pretty quickly.