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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
My point is just that Mantic has terrible, terrible photographers.

the worst in the industry, maybe.

Seriously terrible.

While they could certainly use a bit of fine tuning they are NOT the worst.... Look under the SPOILER for the worst

Damn, Orlando beat me to it....

But yes, while some improvement on their shots can't hurt, Mantic has a long way to go to "the worst" when discussing model photography. You can at least see Buzzcut and he's properly painted after all...

You asked for it (look at left shoulder):

I would never buy that model just because of the picture, which is a shame because it looks kinda neat in general.

It took me about 15 seconds to see that the arm isn't connected simply because of the loud, busy, awful paintjob.

Really though, I wouldn't blame the photographer for that one. I'd blame the person/people who assembled and painted it. (and missed the mold lines on the right forearm.)

Actually, given that the head/face are slightly out of focus, the photog deserves a tiny bit of criticism, but the focal issue is only evident due to the blown-up size of the image. Without a deep-focus camera (like GW uses) it might not even be possible to take a "perfect" shot.

From the Mantic News Letter



Anne Marie Helder (MVP) really good translation of the art



Rico Van Dien not so sure about rico here

and what seems to be from another company (Amera) a stadium to fit over the Dreadball board for £24.99

Helga looks just like the art, very impressed. The art for Rico wasn't great and I think it translated into the model, plus he is pointing and that is starting to bug me with all these models.

The arena looks like someone took some plastic packing from a box and sprayed it blue...

Yes, Rico pointing at something else is a bad thing

(from his bio he'd probably be pointing at himself)

Yeah, I'm not sure about Rico... I'd have thought he'd look a bit more like well, Johnny Rico, played by Casper Van Dien. That's just a random dude.

I think Rico's paint job makes him look a little bit like the Lawnmower Man, in the digital world. Freaky.

Some highlights from the Dreadball conference at Adepticon.

24 'teams' tooled for plastic for Dreadball, each actual team being two separate ones with the secondary sculpts
A team would have been $40 in metal.

Striker SRP ~$400

5000 units of Dreadball core game were ordered prekickstarter, They Thought they'd sell maybe 3k.
Nearly 10k sold so far.

Dreadball Extreme - late 2014

Lots of folks want Dreadball/Mantic novels, including Ronnie.

Season 2 outward will have better castings, they are running the tools slower now. If you have issues bring them in and Mantic will replace them.

Heath was doing 2 designs a month for Mantic pre-Dreadball... Then the kickstarter went crazy and did 25 in 10 days.

Looking forward to my Season 3 team late this year from my piggybacking onto your pledge . Good to hear they've got the molding issue figured out...

I do hope that does solve the moulding issues,

since they seem to be planning to use the material a lot in future they NEED to make sure it doesn't happen over the all their new ranges as it's a sure way to loose support (look at finecast)

Most of my Season 1 stuff was great, but 2 or 3 figures were poor indeed if slowing down the line stops it happening again, brilliant

 Commander Cain wrote:
The art for Rico wasn't great and I think it translated into the model, plus he is pointing and that is starting to bug me with all these models.

I kinda get the feel he's spotted someone he knows in the crowd...

 Dysartes wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
The art for Rico wasn't great and I think it translated into the model, plus he is pointing and that is starting to bug me with all these models.

I kinda get the feel he's spotted someone he knows in the crowd...

Still I agree. There are too many pointers in general. One of My Orx needs therapy as is with every goblin trying to bark out an order and get his help. He is suffering from depression since he always feels like he let someone down.

Some Salut pics here, including lots of Teratons -

http://riquende.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/salute-2013-pics-dreadball/

Awesome, first ever pics of the Teratons. Nice one!

Link added to OP.

The teratons are beautiful....wow.

I'm really glad that they didn't try and base the Terratons on the little circle.

I'm loving the Teratons. I just hope they don't clip everybody else and cause "facing" issues. Very impressed though. I'm guessing their team set-up is like the orcs but with "smash face" jacks versus squirrelly jacks.

 Cyporiean wrote:

Season 2 outward will have better castings, they are running the tools slower now. If you have issues bring them in and Mantic will replace them.

THANK GOODNESS they finally admitted it. Hopefully some well-cast season 2 models will redeem this game.

Wow. The Teratons cannot come out soon enough! They look fantastic! They'll likely be my main team!

Teratons are looking awesome.

nkelsch wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Season 2 outward will have better castings, they are running the tools slower now. If you have issues bring them in and Mantic will replace them.

THANK GOODNESS they finally admitted it. Hopefully some well-cast season 2 models will redeem this game.

Nkelsch, I know you've been waging a bit of a lonely battle on this front so I just want to acknowledge and say Yes, I have seen you talking about the casting issues, and maybe that feedback even had a hand in their addressing it. So, it was not in vain (seemingly!)

 RiTides wrote:

nkelsch wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Season 2 outward will have better castings, they are running the tools slower now. If you have issues bring them in and Mantic will replace them.

THANK GOODNESS they finally admitted it. Hopefully some well-cast season 2 models will redeem this game.

Nkelsch, I know you've been waging a bit of a lonely battle on this front so I just want to acknowledge and say Yes, I have seen you talking about the casting issues, and maybe that feedback even had a hand in their addressing it. So, it was not in vain (seemingly!)

Though I'd certainly say that "redeem this game" is somewhat melodramatic...

 Dysartes wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

nkelsch wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Season 2 outward will have better castings, they are running the tools slower now. If you have issues bring them in and Mantic will replace them.

THANK GOODNESS they finally admitted it. Hopefully some well-cast season 2 models will redeem this game.

Nkelsch, I know you've been waging a bit of a lonely battle on this front so I just want to acknowledge and say Yes, I have seen you talking about the casting issues, and maybe that feedback even had a hand in their addressing it. So, it was not in vain (seemingly!)

Though I'd certainly say that "redeem this game" is somewhat melodramatic...

Getting a new toy only to it to have sloppy lines and damage which require hours of modeling repair and to be told 'this is what modeling is about, the product is fine' is demoralizing and demotivational. The amount of cleanup required, and the mold lines being across critical detail requiring resculpting of detail has been a very big letdown.

So yes... I have slowly been repairing the models I got from this KS, and the poor sculpts are just going back in the box, but there have been soo many 'misses' from the concept art to product and then on top of that they misplaced mold lines, then the sloppy casting, I have lost huge amounts of faith in the product and company itself. Maybe a better quality season 2 will 'redeem' this entire product and renew my excitement for the game.

I like Helga and the Teratons too, combined with the Judwan and Insect guys, mantic are seemingly upping the 'game' in terms of sculpting for sure.

 Kroothawk wrote:
You asked for it (look at left shoulder):

Spoiler:

Hmm, I'm actually wondering if the mini got damaged between painting and photos. It actually does look like it popped off at the joint. I think I'm seeing a lifted skin of paint on the upper part of the arm...

 Gymnogyps wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
You asked for it (look at left shoulder):

Spoiler:

Hmm, I'm actually wondering if the mini got damaged between painting and photos. It actually does look like it popped off at the joint. I think I'm seeing a lifted skin of paint on the upper part of the arm...

Yeah, it obviously broke free but how did the pic make it to any official advertising capacity?

So people were able to buy the Season 2 stuff at Salute 2013, but Kickstarter-backers with Season 2 stuff were once again left to wait and twiddle their thumbs?

Mantic really likes to shove it into the face of Kickstarter-backers on how little they care about you once they have your money