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I am sure that the zombies would make an equal dent. I hope that Tre, eventually, adds a few more poses for his walking dead.

Black tongue and dog killer unlocked, next up is the bone backs.

Is there an autocorrect in the title or are bonebacks also called berserkers somewhere?

Boneback Goblin Berserkers, right? that's what i've always referred to them as

Yeah, also I figured berserker would be more recognizable to folks not familiar with a boneback.

- HELP - I would like to purchase the Riders and the Wolves! They are not on the site ... does anyone really know where I can get these figures?

The wolves, you can pledge for in the kickstarter! There is no specific pledge level for them, just $15 if you want 3, or $25 if you want 6 (or any multiples of these).

As for the horse-mounted riders, they have yet to be added to the store or the new kickstarter, so there is no way to get those... yet! Hopefully, that will change VERY soon

They haven't been sculpted yet - assuming you're talking about the goblin wolf riders.

Slow day today- maybe time to add another of the popular KS1 sculpts as an add-on for those who missed out?

I'd love to see bonebacks at 20K and wolf riders at 25K, but I know that probably can't happen, so adding other existing sculpts in to help get there is the way to go imo.

Any updates on KS1 fulfilment? I know there's no chance of getting mine before this ends, but I think it's holding back a lot of other potential backers located in the US who would potentially go in on this. (If they like goblins).

The bonebacks & trolls being so far away isn't helping either. I kind of wonder if they're being held at at arbitrary funding levels - as stretch goals "rewards" rather than at however much they'd actually cost to make the moulds for?

Since there are no freebies (or even exclusives) in this KS, if Tre can actually afford to get the bonebacks and/or trolls moulded with the $15k pledged, he may as well throw them into the pot and get some more backers up...

The last update on shipping / production was from tre and the trollcast guys about four days ago. Expected date to have everything shipped is the end of february with rolling shipping going as we go along.

Brian Gregory 4 days ago

Ok just got off the phone with Ed;

Horseman Leg mold - Working currently and continuing production this week.
Fenris mold - Working currently and continuing production this week.

Musician mold - minor adjustments made end of last week - Immediate production this week.
Standard barer mold - minor adjustments made end of last week - Immediate production this week.

Horse molds - minor adjustments being mad- will be in production line this week.
Horseman torso mold - minor adjustments being mad- will be in production line this week.

Conrad Varp form mold - Currently not approved and being cut to make adjustments - will be in production as soon as the mold casts well and is approved.

To the best of my knowledge this is everything that is left to either be approved or adjusted and cast. As to the quantities of each and how long we will get the numbers from Tre.

With the exception of the varp form there will be a big package going to Tre either Thursday or Friday. Then out to you guys.

Tre, I just wanted to step in and give an assist with the update and certainly not step on your toes.

tre manor 3 days ago

Not quite Judge Doug. I won't need to approve COnradt once I send back in the fixed master. It will go straight to production. Most of the reason there has been so much back and forth approval is because of the specifics of each figure. COnradt Warp is an exception. He is much larger and bulkier. His pose is not as wild, and the fixes that I am makign will make the prodcution MUCH easier and as a result faster. The troll crew is not castign th efull order and shippign all at once they are shippign as they go along. So instead of me waiting to ship ALL orders at once after receiving all ordered casting quantities, I receive abotu a 100 or so at a tiem and get those packed and shipped while I wait for the rest to eb delivered. So I should be shipping orders now through February I am expecting that all orders will be shipped by the end fo February.

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Also we have a unit of painted helsvakt by cutebutpsychominis:

Thanks for posting those updates, czakk! Getting as many KS1 boxes out as possible now could definitely give this one a boost

Thanks czaak. I check the RBG forum now and then, but other than that I just look here and in my email for the updates. Looks like they'll be missing the end of this KS for most of the remaining US backers, so that will surely have a big impact on this one. (And another month at the earliest for non-US).

Damn, this Kickstarter is going a lot slower than I had anticipated. I'm pretty sure we'll get to the Bonebacks at least with the last few days push, but I'm starting to have my doubts about the rest. There is a lot of time left, though, so things might very well shape up. Honestly I'd be pretty happy if we get to the Wolf Riders ($35K), because then there would be enough options to make my $165 pledge feel worthwile. If we get there, but not further, I'd probably do:

1x Runty Gob Spearmen
2x Runty Gob Footmen
3x Runty Gob Archers
1x Dog's Bane
1x Black Tongue
1x Bonebacks
2x Wolf Riders

But also getting the Troll Brothers and Crowbiter would let me diversify even more, so I'm really hoping for those too (I'm mostly interested in getting one of each mini, not really building up an army).

Come on people, pledge for this now! The $55 pledge level is actually a pretty nice deal right now (24 goblins, plus 2 heroes or 6 archers).

 Trodax wrote:
Honestly I'd be pretty happy if we get to the Wolf Riders ($35K)

Agreed 100%! Hopefully he adds in some purchaseable add-ons (current sculpts/casts, not new ones) to help us get there

I personally know three people that are not pledging due to not having received KS1 stuff yet. That I believe is the unfortunately reality :(

Truth be told I am terrified of mucking it all up if I tinker with it.

As for the expense of the bonebacks...... It will require 12 molds for this pack. THAT is the hard part. 12 moulds to insure reliable and efficient casting of each part. So that is a bit of a gamble. Though I also understand that I have already rolled the dice on the way I set up the pledge levels. If those Bonebacks do not fund then I could potentially roll back a LOT of the dollar amount pledged thus far.

I talked to Ed yesterday and there seems to be a development in the material he is using for casting that may improve the expected costs. I MIGHT be able to mitigate the cost of the bonebacks by making family moulds but that is part of the reason why the KS1 has hit so many snags........

Ugh....

Tre, any updates on KS1 so I can pass it along to the peeps I know who are waiting on their KS1 stuff?

Would it be worth an interim level at $20K where you unlock
6 Bonebacks,

meaning that folk would temporarily get duplicate figures (2x 6 unlocked) if they took the special rank but it would mean the special rank option was available earlier and mean those of us who've pledged for something including special ranks got less jumpy

then at $25K you unlock the remaining bonebacks and the special rank returns to being 12 unique figures

(you'd need a better way of wording it though as my rambling sounds terrible!)


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It seems Tre has just had the same idea as he's posted on the KS comments

Creator tre manor 2 minutes ago

Yeh it is all a big balancing act really. On the one hand I REALLY want to hit it big on this KS ( obviously ) but at the same time I want to be certain that every promise is fulfillable without going into dangerous territory. As long as this campaign funds the Bonebacks and the WolfRiders I will be happy. That is a goal that I think I could satisfy faster than expected.

I am talkign with Ed to see what we can do to maybe bring the bonebacks a little more within reach as I think that crossing that mark will go a long way to moving this campaign forward. As of now though the plan is to make 12 moulds for each one of the figures in the set. That is a significant outlay for parts that will be sold in multipacks. With individual moulds then we can avoid a lot of the troubles that have arisen with some of the KS 1 parts. We will see what we can do.

One solution that might work withough havign to do that is to split the bonebacks into 2 groups of 6. Release the first group at $20,000.00 and just double them up to fill out the units if the campaign does nto go over $25,000.00. If the campaign DOES go over $25,000.00 then we add the second group of six to finish out the set giving each set 12 uniques INSTEAD of 6 doubles.

What do you guys think?


So if you're a backer and like the idea, drop into the KS comments and let him know, and if you're thinking of backing and think this will help, let him know here

I'd prefer adding in more KS1 sculpts, but something is much better than nothing! Ed's initial molding costs sound too high. I thought 12 different models could be in one spin mold. Imo I'd risk that and lower the stretch goals...

I Really like the idea of breaking up the wolf rider stretch, though- say, a new sculpt every 2.5K after the bonebacks, instead of all 4 at 10K away!

To be honest, as someone who is getting pretty much one of everything from KS1: Waiting to allow Tre and Ed to produce the best product possible > crappy product delivered faster.

As far as funding goes, the thing to remember is it's more or less in line with how KS1 ran.

Breaking up the stretches in 6 Bonebacks or individual riders sounds like a decent idea unless it screws things up if only half the bonebacks or two of the riders gets funded, ie less than a full set.

Although then it opens up the idea of using Solo options on a set of, let's say, 2 Bonebacks or 1 lesser rank for 2 wolf riders. It increases bookkeeping some, but it could be worth it for the goose to the funding.

Yeah, although I bet that will be too much for him to keep track of...

It's a bummer that things are stalled right now (any other ideas to jumpstart it?) but they always pick up at the end and I believe we'll still easily get the bonebacks. I would love to have the wolf riders too, but don't Have to have them. The only problem is that if we don't get them I'll probably have to reduce my pledge a little bit, as I'm already getting 120 gobbos here and don't need more than that... (hobgoblins for chaos dwarfs).

 RiTides wrote:
It's a bummer that things are stalled right now (any other ideas to jumpstart it?) but they always pick up at the end and I believe we'll still easily get the bonebacks. I would love to have the wolf riders too, but don't Have to have them. The only problem is that if we don't get them I'll probably have to reduce my pledge a little bit, as I'm already getting 120 gobbos here and don't need more than that... (hobgoblins for chaos dwarfs).

If we get to the Bonebacks but not any further I'll probably reduce my pledge from the $165 level to the $115 or $90 level so I won't be forced to get so many Boneback duplicates. But I'll compensate so my total pledge stays the same by adding on some lesser rank runty gobs, archers and perhaps 6 more wolves.

It would certainly be nice to also get wolf riders and troll brothers, but I'd actually be fine with this development as well. A bag of very nice gobbos will be coming my way either way.

 tre manor wrote:
Truth be told I am terrified of mucking it all up if I tinker with it.

As for the expense of the bonebacks...... It will require 12 molds for this pack. THAT is the hard part. 12 moulds to insure reliable and efficient casting of each part. So that is a bit of a gamble. Though I also understand that I have already rolled the dice on the way I set up the pledge levels. If those Bonebacks do not fund then I could potentially roll back a LOT of the dollar amount pledged thus far.

I talked to Ed yesterday and there seems to be a development in the material he is using for casting that may improve the expected costs. I MIGHT be able to mitigate the cost of the bonebacks by making family moulds but that is part of the reason why the KS1 has hit so many snags........

Ugh....

You need to get a contingency plan going so you're not 100% reliant on Ed/Trollforged. It's already effectively cost you a lot of success on this KS, as well as forcing you to start this KS before your customers are really ready for it (ie, fulfilment)

Another painted helsvakt has been posted up.

I can't wait for mine to arrive!

Damn... Those Helsvakt really are, what is you Americans say, the bee's knees? I really want to get some of those eventually and use them for some Conan RPG'ing.

As for the current goblin Kickstarter, we have at least gained a few new backers during the weekend. Still hoping that things pick up!

Most Americans don't say the "bee's knees" but that is hilarious

 RiTides wrote:
Most Americans don't say the "bee's knees" but that is hilarious

Ah, I see, perhaps my English is a tad outdated. I'll try to become more 'down with the kids' and start spicing it up with 'nifty' and 'groovy' then.

Almost at $16K now, at least we have a trickle of movement!