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Thanks Boos!

There it is again . Nickname time, "Boos"


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Update on the KS page:

Tre Manor wrote:Hey Y'all,

Seems a lot of backers are looking to make an entire army out of bonebacks or wolf riders so to make things more efficient for these backers and would-be backers I have posted a new set of rewards specifically priced and worded for the special ranks options. I think I have covered the possibilities well but I am as always open to suggestions as we move this campaign forward. Today I am working on packing orders from the previous KS campaign and getting them to the PO for shipment AND I am also working on the sculpts for Gorefang and the new Crowbiter. I believe in my goblins and in your enthusiasm for them so I think it is a safe bet to get going on the front end work now. It is my FERVENT hope that we can move this campaign alogn far enough to include the retool of the Dvergr line as well. As many of them as possible!

Cheers Y'all!

Tre'

Aenglish horsemen and archers would be ace. :p The Aenglish need to bulked out considering we've already got the footmen and characters.

All right, I'm not a particularily good painter or photographer, but I have some shots of the metal goblins:

OooOOOOoOoOo!! hell YEH!! Thanks Czakk!

Those guys are looking good! Thanks for posting those photos. I have never ranked up my goblins because I mostly use them for skirmish games, but I expect that they would look excellent all ranked up, especially the runty goblins with spears!

New pledge levels are nice, thanks for the options! But you already convinced me to get some of everything

Tre' -

Hob Gobs, Lots and Lots!............Supporters at this level will receive three ( 3 )special ranks, and one (1) lesser rank, and (3) solo options. Options available for selection within this reward group are limited to the Goblin Horde sets. Please include $5.00 for domestic shipping and $10.00 for international shipping.

Not sure why you're limiting this to goblins only? If I go in on this KS, I'd be looking at Bonebacks, perhaps wolf riders, and more of your excellent dwarves. It just seems pointlessly restrictive, since you ideally want people pledging as much as possible...

Are those wraiths still likely to be a stretch goal on this one?

 scipio.au wrote:
Tre' -

Hob Gobs, Lots and Lots!............Supporters at this level will receive three ( 3 )special ranks, and one (1) lesser rank, and (3) solo options. Options available for selection within this reward group are limited to the Goblin Horde sets. Please include $5.00 for domestic shipping and $10.00 for international shipping.

Not sure why you're limiting this to goblins only? If I go in on this KS, I'd be looking at Bonebacks, perhaps wolf riders, and more of your excellent dwarves. It just seems pointlessly restrictive, since you ideally want people pledging as much as possible...

Are those wraiths still likely to be a stretch goal on this one?

I was thinking about it too.
Could it be that dvergr and aenglish units and heroes will have different pricing? While for example 4-5 dollar difference per unit might not seem a big deal when looking at a single order, when you multiply it by hundreds of orders and a number of units in an order you can easily get to thousands. Now if that is profit then fine, you certainly don't want that number to be loss though.
I really liked the flexibility of last kickstarter. In the end I got a piece of everything so I did not need to trade except for riders. And that is my plan for this KS too so I'm happy with pledge levels.

I guess Tre can only work on a limited amount of stuff at a time, so I am okay with this Kickstarter being just Goblins. If there was another for Dwarves, I would probably go in on it. If this one goes on to Dwarves, I'll have to think hard about it, because at this time I am saving money to move house and the investment I'd make would be significant in terms of my income.

I didn't pledge last night, but only because I'm waiting for the funds to drop into my prepaid visa account.

Scipio, all of the pledges say "limited to Goblin Horde sets". He'll add more pledge levels if the Dvergr unlock, and you can choose more than one. Not saying it's the best solution, but you can get some of everything if you wish (I wonder if he'll even do a "mixed" Goblin/Dvergr pledge level at that time).

It has slowed down (just passed 12K) but honestly even if only the footmen and bonebacks unlocked, I'd be happy as I am after lots of unique sculpts and they provide that. The next thing I really crave is the wolf riders but their level isn't revealed yet.

 scipio.au wrote:
Tre' -

Hob Gobs, Lots and Lots!............Supporters at this level will receive three ( 3 )special ranks, and one (1) lesser rank, and (3) solo options. Options available for selection within this reward group are limited to the Goblin Horde sets. Please include $5.00 for domestic shipping and $10.00 for international shipping.

Not sure why you're limiting this to goblins only? If I go in on this KS, I'd be looking at Bonebacks, perhaps wolf riders, and more of your excellent dwarves. It just seems pointlessly restrictive, since you ideally want people pledging as much as possible...

Are those wraiths still likely to be a stretch goal on this one?

Bonebacks and wolf riders are Goblin Horde sets.

I MAY move the heroes a round a bit to help this campaign move. I am working on the math.

Teh Wolfriders will probably move ahead of the Trolls as I think the Wolf Riders will help the trolls more than the trolls coudl help the riders.

Scipio, I wanted to try to keep thigns as clear as possible so thus far there are only goblins to choose from. When ( BIG IF at this point ) we make ti to Dvergr there will be specific pledge levels for them as well based on the possibilities and pricing and a set fo mixed pledge rewards as well. Right now we are just focusing on moving through the goblin goals first. As soon as we move past the Bonebacks I will be posting new stretch goals

What if you don't want goblins? I think it was a mistake to offer just the Goblins. It may have been better to offer part of the other 2-3 factions to get the $$$ moving and get people invested into the KS. Some people like Dwarves and some probably like the elves. I have a $165 pledge but honestly I am not feeling it like I was for the last KS. I will probably reduce it to a much lower level before the KS ends. I don't think the goblins are popular enough to carry this KS like the HelsVakt did for the last KS.

I wonder about that too. Last time, I didn't go near the actual helsVakt and got a smattering of Aenglish and Undead instead. I love these goblins, so I am happy to get a pile of them (tbh I would get a pile of anything Tre produces).

Perhaps it was hard to organise and ensure delivery for a diverse bunch of orders without delays (which really piss people off)?

I backed, anyhow. Really hoping we get to the Wolves! If so I will be putting some more in.

Also getting KS1 orders fulfilled will likely bring in fence sitters.

Moving heroes around as intermediates, and moving wolf riders ahead of trolls both sounds great!!

I'm biased, because I already have the Troll Brothers, but I would love to see some stuff about the Wolf Riders. I think it could get a good buzz going, too.

I have to say I am very excited about this Kickstarter and I'm not normally into these things.

Again apologies for the crap photowork and the paintjobs.

Some gobbos face off with some gnolls invading their cave:



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So does anyone have pics of their bonebacks? I know a bunch of people have some.

Nice photos!

I finally got the bonebacks I didn't have ("pack B") so I will try to get a pic of all of them

Hm, ok. I guess I was going off now-outdated info where the KS was for several lines as well as the goblins from the get-go.

For those of you who are backers, lots of avatars posted by a fan here:

http://red-box-games.com/forum/index.php?topic=164.msg3041#msg3041

I'm backing this; those goblins look pretty fun. I hope it picks up the pace, though, cause I'm really, really hoping we also get some Aenglish in on this Kickstarter

Anyone got any scale comparisons for the Helsvakht two hand weapon guys? I think they're displayed on 20mm round bases, just want to see how they do against other figure out there.

I may well back this, but not until my KS1 stuff arrives...

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Anyone got any scale comparisons for the Helsvakht two hand weapon guys? I think they're displayed on 20mm round bases, just want to see how they do against other figure out there.

Not sure how many people have actually received them, as it appears that the majority of KS1 orders were held up.

The campaign seems to have stalled a little. Certainly flattened out to almost nothing after the spike on day two and the tail of it on the third/forth days. The KS1 issue doubtless has a lot to do with it, but I also think it's because there are no "freebie" stretch goals, just "unlocks" to allow people to pay for more things. On top of that, the interesting things like the Bonebacks, trolls, wolfriders etc are miles away - leaving only runty goblins, which are tiny and a bit niche. Can't expect people to pledge for things that might not make it. Particularly in a KS that's already funded... Bonebacks should have been first cab off the rank, since they seem to be the most popular thing in the goblin range - though I'm sure Tre knows his sales figures better than anyone else.

Well I honestly thought the footmen would be more popular than the bonebacks.

I have shipped 250 some odd orders and will be shipping a load more today......unfortunately though I simply cannot afford to do the double shipment thing as I had hoped I would. The postal service has DRASTICALLY increased their prices lately. Such that I am going to be some $4,000.00 over budget in shipping as it is now. If I tried to ship twice I would literally not enough money to do it.



Freebies....... cannot do them. I have priced these things as low as possible and giving anything away is just going to be counter productive. If the value is not there as is then it just is what it is I am afraid. I wish it was but.........

Actually I am already losing money on this new kickstarter because of the shipping costs. :/

I am sorry this has not gone well guys. Believe me that there is no one more disappointed by the development of the KS fulfillment than I am.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Anyone got any scale comparisons for the Helsvakht two hand weapon guys? I think they're displayed on 20mm round bases, just want to see how they do against other figure out there.

Nono, Helsvakt are on 25mm. The zombies and gobbos are on 20mm round bases. The one Helsvakt Hordseman I own (Bloody Garm) fits end to end on a 25mm square base - one foot is flush with one side and the other foot is flush with the other side. Helsvakt are NOT small, they are huge for 28mm scale - think Conan sized. Obviously they are smaller than GW's 9' tall chaos warriors.


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 tre manor wrote:

I have shipped 250 some odd orders and will be shipping a load more today......unfortunately though I simply cannot afford to do the double shipment thing as I had hoped I would. The postal service has DRASTICALLY increased their prices lately. Such that I am going to be some $4,000.00 over budget in shipping as it is now. If I tried to ship twice I would literally not enough money to do it.

I am sorry this has not gone well guys. Believe me that there is no one more disappointed by the development of the KS fulfillment than I am.

If you haven't sent my first chunk of KS1 then I don't mind waiting til the horsemen are done and you sending it all at once.

And I personally will be pledging more into KS2; it depends on ebay sales!


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Tre, I just checked the Kicktraq for both of your campaigns. It looks like the goblins are on par with the Helsvakt. In fact, after the first 4 days on the Helsvakt there was a period of at least a week of 0 to 3 pledges per day, and that wound up coming in at almost 80k!

I have not yet lost confidence in the goblins. I am sure we will fund at least everything listed thus far. I guess the Dvergr may just have to wait for their own KS campaign. We will see though.

Tre, as I posted on the KS comments

"Let's say we don't make it past the goblins. Is that so bad? Tre gets the goblins transitioned over, it's easier to manage without all the new sculpts, and then in a few months he can do the Dvergr KS.

I mean, really, it's already been funded 250% and there's still over three weeks left."

Although I prefer the Footmen myself, the consensus seems to be that the Bonebacks are more popular. I'd expect some more momentum when we get closer to funding them.

I'm sorry to hear you're losing money on the shipping and so on. The postal price raises couldn't have come at a worse time.

I would be happiest with another KS for Dvergr and Aenglish, because it would mean dropping less money all at once. I don't like to spend so much on miniatures in a short time.