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I am not really that big of a fan of the word bearers, and white scars. Space wolves are cool with me, but I don't like to deal with the fanboys.

What's wrong with the fans of the Space Wolves?

 Beaviz81 wrote:
What's wrong with the fans of the Space Wolves?

Their fans are fairly notoriously dogged.

Although, to me, it seems to be the same with Thousand Sons too. Probably not a coincidence that both seem to have the biggest fan-bases, either...


*Pun intended.

Rivalry is grist for the discussion mill. Hating or loving everybody doesn't get you much play.

Fanboys are always bad, regardless of what they are fans of.

Do remember that fan is short for fanatic.

Just Dave wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 TechmarineNic wrote:
This is my point that he was one of the less intelligent Primarchs along with Magnus and therefore hated...

I don't agree at all that Lorgar was one of the less intelligent Primarchs -- but to say one of the less intelligent Primarchs along with Magnus is especially wrong. Or at least I'm not sure what you mean when you use the word "intelligence."

Maybe he thinks they are the two that made the worst slip-ups?

That is exactly what I mean with the fact that they both made themselves look a bit dumb in front Guilliman and the Emprah

i guess the word bearers really didn't know which word they would eventually bear

 TechmarineNic wrote:
That is exactly what I mean with the fact that they both made themselves look a bit dumb in front Guilliman and the Emprah

I don't think either Guilliman or the Emperor ever thought of the WB or TS as dumb.

When it comes to people I have talked to, the fanboys (to an extent) have all been with space puppies. They are definitely still cool to talk to and play against, but with a touch of caution.

I agree fanatics are there for all factions (some more than others); if you say anything that disagrees with their view of the faction...you better pray to the dark gods cause is what you get.

 TechmarineNic wrote:
That is exactly what I mean with the fact that they both made themselves look a bit dumb in front Guilliman and the Emprah

Magnus has never spoken to Guilliman in the text.

 Ironwill13791 wrote:
When it comes to people I have talked to, the fanboys (to an extent) have all been with space puppies. They are definitely still cool to talk to and play against, but with a touch of caution.

I agree fanatics are there for all factions (some more than others); if you say anything that disagrees with their view of the faction...you better pray to the dark gods cause is what you get.

I can identify a few hardcore Thousand Son fans on here tbh, but it's also worth noting in general that not all fans are fanboys. I'm a fan of Space Wolves personally, but would like to think I'm pretty impartial in a discussion.

Manchu wrote:

 TechmarineNic wrote:
That is exactly what I mean with the fact that they both made themselves look a bit dumb in front Guilliman and the Emprah

I don't think either Guilliman or the Emperor ever thought of the WB or TS as dumb.

I agree, although to be fair, Guilliman did refer to Lorgar as like a child...



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 Void__Dragon wrote:

 TechmarineNic wrote:
That is exactly what I mean with the fact that they both made themselves look a bit dumb in front Guilliman and the Emprah

Magnus has never spoken to Guilliman in the text.

He probably mean respectively (Lorgar and Magnus).

 Just Dave wrote:
I can identify a few hardcore Thousand Son fans on here tbh, but it's also worth noting in general that not all fans are fanboys. I'm a fan of Space Wolves personally, but would like to think I'm pretty impartial in a discussion.

Name them.

You know you want to.

He probably mean respectively (Lorgar and Magnus).

Perhaps.

I don't see how you can even define what Lorgar did as a "slip-up", from his POV (Magnus by contrast is well-aware that he fethed up). Lorgar kickstarted a galactic civil war and made Chaos more powerful and relevant in the galaxy than ever before, which could be construed as a slip-up by most in the setting, but Lorgar, in his douchiness, views this as a good thing.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
I can identify a few hardcore Thousand Son fans on here tbh, but it's also worth noting in general that not all fans are fanboys. I'm a fan of Space Wolves personally, but would like to think I'm pretty impartial in a discussion.

Name them.

You know you want to.

I don't think I need to.

He probably mean respectively (Lorgar and Magnus).

Perhaps.

I don't see how you can even define what Lorgar did as a "slip-up", from his POV (Magnus by contrast is well-aware that he fethed up). Lorgar kickstarted a galactic civil war and made Chaos more powerful and relevant in the galaxy than ever before, which could be construed as a slip-up by most in the setting, but Lorgar, in his douchiness, views this as a good thing.

Oh I agree, it was hardly a slip-up, and was in-fact very deliberate; I was just trying to help elaborate what the person probably meant. He was also probably referring to the events leading up to Monarchia, rather than his manipulations of the Heresy, I suspect.

Apparently, the Emperor waited a hundred years to tell Lorgar to stop. Apparently. Lorgar might be full of BS.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
Apparently, the Emperor waited a hundred years to tell Lorgar to stop. Apparently. Lorgar might be full of BS.

Empy wanted to see if he liked being worshiped as a god first. Hehe.

It's a slip up in the sense of doing something that you are not supposed to.

I actually like the thought of Empy giving considerable thought to if he was a god or not Manchu. Hehehehe. That makes sense in context.

Lorgar: "Daddy I worship thy!"
Empy: "I will sit down and think about if I like getting worshiped for 100 years.

100 years later.

Empy: "Sorry Mac, I don't like to be worshiped."
Lorgar: "But dad-"
Empy: "Robute, destroy this marvelous designed cathedral while Lorgar kneels to us both.
Robute: "Ay, ay dad. Commence destruction!"

Perhaps the Emperor hoped Lorgar was just going through a phase ...

Making Lorgar kneel was the worst mistake Empy ever made, that opened a bag of worms. Hehe. Poor chap but he was quite a bad father. Giving Magnus crack I mean warp in the cradle and such. Rejecting Angron's honor and so on.

I dont really like konrad curze or night lords. Just not my thing... but my favorite is dorn. I love the imperial fists and dorns fluff SOOO much! But why did they have to be yellow! I don't like the yellow, so I play BTs which is a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists.

 Color Sgt. Kell wrote:
I dont really like konrad curze or night lords. Just not my thing... but my favorite is dorn. I love the imperial fists and dorns fluff SOOO much! But why did they have to be yellow! I don't like the yellow, so I play BTs which is a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists.

Except that it's the color I associate with chip-bags I see little wrong with yellow. The Ultras I associate with whitewash and chocolate, the Blood Angels draw their color from just boring things like powder soup and such, the White Scars are milk-cartoons and so on.

 Just Dave wrote:

 Ironwill13791 wrote:
When it comes to people I have talked to, the fanboys (to an extent) have all been with space puppies. They are definitely still cool to talk to and play against, but with a touch of caution.

I agree fanatics are there for all factions (some more than others); if you say anything that disagrees with their view of the faction...you better pray to the dark gods cause is what you get.

I can identify a few hardcore Thousand Son fans on here tbh, but it's also worth noting in general that not all fans are fanboys. I'm a fan of Space Wolves personally, but would like to think I'm pretty impartial in a discussion.

I know Just Dave. I am a fan of Dark Angels. I can admit their faults (some make them cooler when you open your mind), and I don't throw a fit at Space Wolves and their players. Fans can have discussions; Fanboys preach . Discussions with closed minded people can suck big time. Not pointing any fingers here though, just saying in general.

I have never found SW players that I have gamed against to be any more fanatical than anyone else.

The most devoted players are usually the long term Ork players, and I mean devoted in the positive sense of things.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 Color Sgt. Kell wrote:
I dont really like konrad curze or night lords. Just not my thing... but my favorite is dorn. I love the imperial fists and dorns fluff SOOO much! But why did they have to be yellow! I don't like the yellow, so I play BTs which is a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists.

Except that it's the color I associate with chip-bags I see little wrong with yellow. The Ultras I associate with whitewash and chocolate, the Blood Angels draw their color from just boring things like powder soup and such, the White Scars are milk-cartoons and so on.

funniest thing ive read all day

 Manchu wrote:
Perhaps the Emperor hoped Lorgar was just going through a phase ...

You mean like when a teenager gets hormones? If that`s the case.

JWhex wrote:
I have never found SW players that I have gamed against to be any more fanatical than anyone else.

The most devoted players are usually the long term Ork players, and I mean devoted in the positive sense of things.

Space Wolves generally get the most hate. Which means that those who defend them are seen doing more often. Which often means that SW fans are quiker to get worked up because they have to repeat themselves... A lot. So its more a Fan vs hater issue rather then just SW fans being insane. Not to say that some are not.

Angron is not stupid and has the ability to reason. The problem is that the Nails prevent him from doing so on a constant basis.

Angron has been able to verbally get the better of Russ Lorgar and Guilliman.

 Stonerhino wrote:

JWhex wrote:
I have never found SW players that I have gamed against to be any more fanatical than anyone else.

The most devoted players are usually the long term Ork players, and I mean devoted in the positive sense of things.

Space Wolves generally get the most hate. Which means that those who defend them are seen doing more often. Which often means that SW fans are quiker to get worked up because they have to repeat themselves... A lot. So its more a Fan vs hater issue rather then just SW fans being insane. Not to say that some are not.

QFT - but it depends...Big three: UM, SW, DA are always the target from specific hater profiles.....
But I think the vote for most bashed chapter (all around) goes to UM....
Kids for instance hate them without even knowing the basic facts...
Kid1 : Hahahaha Ultrasmurfs !!!!
Me : Huh? Do you even know any basic facts about them ?
Kid2 : hahahahah Rowboat Girlyman
Me :

Stonerhino wrote:Space Wolves generally get the most hate. Which means that those who defend them are seen doing more often. Which often means that SW fans are quiker to get worked up because they have to repeat themselves... A lot. So its more a Fan vs hater issue rather then just SW fans being insane. Not to say that some are not.

It's a partial truth. Near any player here in my city love the wolves, yes someone less than others 'cause maybe they don't like the whole Vikings thigs but they're okay with the fluff etc.
I personally think that haters (or fanboys) are simply the garbage of the fanbase around an army, or more in general around a band/game/ etc

DarthMarko wrote:
QFT - but it depends...Big three: UM, SW, DA are always the target from specific hater profiles.....
But I think the vote for most bashed chapter (all around) goes to UM....
Kids for instance hate them without even knowing the basic facts...
Kid1 : Hahahaha Ultrasmurfs !!!!
Me : Huh? Do you even know any basic facts about them ?
Kid2 : hahahahah Rowboat Girlyman
Me :

Uhm... I liked the UM until the latest 'dex. I love the whole Romans-like mini-Empire they have built, but this new "they're better than any other chapter, except for the GK" it's something that pushed me away from them.
Dammit...

Blood Angels seem to draw quite a bit hate on their own. If I should go by hate as a meter alone the Ultramarines would be the kings of that hatred with the Blood Angels as number two. Then comes the Blood Ravens (I know but I'm now going by most reviled chapters), then the SW, DA and BT seems to share the fourth spot , but I mainly attribute that to their popularity.