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2014/08/10 21:28:43
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
jakejackjake wrote: Will people stop saying Chaos isn't wholly evil in 40k. It is. The only "good" in Chaos or that they take part in is to entice people to corruption. That's it. They are utterly and completely evil through and through. That is why they use the word "malign" to describe them over and over and over.
And GK are the very bestest of the best Level 9001 paladins of goodness!
Nothing is 100%. Some powers of chaos are used for good, or are explicitly good, or have good facets to them. Khorne isn't pure bloodlust, he also embodies martial honor. Nurgle isn't just death and disease, he is also life and family and companionship. Slaanesh, while horribly debased, is the embodiement of the pursuit of happiness, which is a constitutional right in the US.
But Tzeentch is a cheating bastard.
Not really. There isn't any "real" good in Chaos. Chaos is litterally the adjacent to Biblical hell. It is a terrible place and any followers who fail to please their god to their satisfaction are tortured for all eternity.
Apart from the bit where mass goodness will spawn a warp entity, and that it's possible that the Emprah is a chaos god now.
Chaos is formed from the emotional fears and sins of all sentient beings (which obliterates the alpha legion theory), which I believe makes it relatively evil.
Where does the emprah turning into a chaos god come from?
Various fan theories, and his immense psychic power resonating across the warp. And giving all SoB's a faith save.
It's impossible. However, it is most likely if the emperor dies, the emotional backlashes across the imperium will birth a new chaos god.
I agree on this totally:(
But wouldn't the ork be the race whom are not douchebags suince they have no real motive behind their fightin at all?
2014/08/10 22:11:59
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
jakejackjake wrote: Will people stop saying Chaos isn't wholly evil in 40k. It is. The only "good" in Chaos or that they take part in is to entice people to corruption. That's it. They are utterly and completely evil through and through. That is why they use the word "malign" to describe them over and over and over.
And GK are the very bestest of the best Level 9001 paladins of goodness!
Nothing is 100%. Some powers of chaos are used for good, or are explicitly good, or have good facets to them. Khorne isn't pure bloodlust, he also embodies martial honor. Nurgle isn't just death and disease, he is also life and family and companionship. Slaanesh, while horribly debased, is the embodiement of the pursuit of happiness, which is a constitutional right in the US.
But Tzeentch is a cheating bastard.
Not really. There isn't any "real" good in Chaos. Chaos is litterally the adjacent to Biblical hell. It is a terrible place and any followers who fail to please their god to their satisfaction are tortured for all eternity.
Apart from the bit where mass goodness will spawn a warp entity, and that it's possible that the Emprah is a chaos god now.
Chaos is formed from the emotional fears and sins of all sentient beings (which obliterates the alpha legion theory), which I believe makes it relatively evil.
Where does the emprah turning into a chaos god come from?
Various fan theories, and his immense psychic power resonating across the warp. And giving all SoB's a faith save.
It's impossible. However, it is most likely if the emperor dies, the emotional backlashes across the imperium will birth a new chaos god.
I agree on this totally:(
But wouldn't the ork be the race whom are not douchebags suince they have no real motive behind their fightin at all?
Wouldn't that be Tyranids?
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2014/08/10 22:26:01
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
jakejackjake wrote: Will people stop saying Chaos isn't wholly evil in 40k. It is. The only "good" in Chaos or that they take part in is to entice people to corruption. That's it. They are utterly and completely evil through and through. That is why they use the word "malign" to describe them over and over and over.
And GK are the very bestest of the best Level 9001 paladins of goodness!
Nothing is 100%. Some powers of chaos are used for good, or are explicitly good, or have good facets to them. Khorne isn't pure bloodlust, he also embodies martial honor. Nurgle isn't just death and disease, he is also life and family and companionship. Slaanesh, while horribly debased, is the embodiement of the pursuit of happiness, which is a constitutional right in the US.
But Tzeentch is a cheating bastard.
Not really. There isn't any "real" good in Chaos. Chaos is litterally the adjacent to Biblical hell. It is a terrible place and any followers who fail to please their god to their satisfaction are tortured for all eternity.
Apart from the bit where mass goodness will spawn a warp entity, and that it's possible that the Emprah is a chaos god now.
Chaos is formed from the emotional fears and sins of all sentient beings (which obliterates the alpha legion theory), which I believe makes it relatively evil.
Where does the emprah turning into a chaos god come from?
Various fan theories, and his immense psychic power resonating across the warp. And giving all SoB's a faith save.
It's impossible. However, it is most likely if the emperor dies, the emotional backlashes across the imperium will birth a new chaos god.
I agree on this totally:(
But wouldn't the ork be the race whom are not douchebags suince they have no real motive behind their fightin at all?
Wouldn't that be Tyranids?
Both Orks and Tyranids have motives to kill things.
Nids: Hunger for the hunger god!
Orks: "We iz made ter fight an' win!" Orks literally cannot live without fighting. They need it and crave it as much as we do food. WAAAGH!!! time is like an all-you-can-eat buffet, complete with making you bigger at the end.
2014/08/10 22:40:02
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
jakejackjake wrote: Will people stop saying Chaos isn't wholly evil in 40k. It is. The only "good" in Chaos or that they take part in is to entice people to corruption. That's it. They are utterly and completely evil through and through. That is why they use the word "malign" to describe them over and over and over.
And GK are the very bestest of the best Level 9001 paladins of goodness!
Nothing is 100%. Some powers of chaos are used for good, or are explicitly good, or have good facets to them. Khorne isn't pure bloodlust, he also embodies martial honor. Nurgle isn't just death and disease, he is also life and family and companionship. Slaanesh, while horribly debased, is the embodiement of the pursuit of happiness, which is a constitutional right in the US.
But Tzeentch is a cheating bastard.
Not really. There isn't any "real" good in Chaos. Chaos is litterally the adjacent to Biblical hell. It is a terrible place and any followers who fail to please their god to their satisfaction are tortured for all eternity.
Apart from the bit where mass goodness will spawn a warp entity, and that it's possible that the Emprah is a chaos god now.
Chaos is formed from the emotional fears and sins of all sentient beings (which obliterates the alpha legion theory), which I believe makes it relatively evil.
Where does the emprah turning into a chaos god come from?
Various fan theories, and his immense psychic power resonating across the warp. And giving all SoB's a faith save.
It's impossible. However, it is most likely if the emperor dies, the emotional backlashes across the imperium will birth a new chaos god.
I agree on this totally:(
But wouldn't the ork be the race whom are not douchebags suince they have no real motive behind their fightin at all?
jakejackjake wrote: Will people stop saying Chaos isn't wholly evil in 40k. It is. The only "good" in Chaos or that they take part in is to entice people to corruption. That's it. They are utterly and completely evil through and through. That is why they use the word "malign" to describe them over and over and over.
And GK are the very bestest of the best Level 9001 paladins of goodness!
Nothing is 100%. Some powers of chaos are used for good, or are explicitly good, or have good facets to them. Khorne isn't pure bloodlust, he also embodies martial honor. Nurgle isn't just death and disease, he is also life and family and companionship. Slaanesh, while horribly debased, is the embodiement of the pursuit of happiness, which is a constitutional right in the US.
But Tzeentch is a cheating bastard.
Not really. There isn't any "real" good in Chaos. Chaos is litterally the adjacent to Biblical hell. It is a terrible place and any followers who fail to please their god to their satisfaction are tortured for all eternity.
Apart from the bit where mass goodness will spawn a warp entity, and that it's possible that the Emprah is a chaos god now.
Chaos is formed from the emotional fears and sins of all sentient beings (which obliterates the alpha legion theory), which I believe makes it relatively evil.
Where does the emprah turning into a chaos god come from?
Various fan theories, and his immense psychic power resonating across the warp. And giving all SoB's a faith save.
It's impossible. However, it is most likely if the emperor dies, the emotional backlashes across the imperium will birth a new chaos god.
I agree on this totally:(
But wouldn't the ork be the race whom are not douchebags suince they have no real motive behind their fightin at all?
Wouldn't that be Tyranids?
Both Orks and Tyranids have motives to kill things.
Nids: Hunger for the hunger god!
Orks: "We iz made ter fight an' win!" Orks literally cannot live without fighting. They need it and crave it as much as we do food. WAAAGH!!! time is like an all-you-can-eat buffet, complete with making you bigger at the end.
Ha, I honestly believe the Tyranids were created by a group of vengeful Old Ones that had survived the war with the necrontyr and the C'tan. I believe the hive mind is actually the powerful psychic essence of the ancient Old Ones (as they hated the warp) and the mindless tyranid creatures now act in sevice of their will.
Far fetched theory perhaps, but I find it interesting
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2014/08/10 22:55:33
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
morganfreeman wrote: Would you rather be captured by Orks, or captured by literally anyone else?
By Craftworld Eldar or Tau, thank you.
morganfreeman wrote: Literally every other race will torture you for various reasons with the exceptions of Tyranids - they won't even give you the option to surrender.
Except for the Imperium where most faction will just kill you right away, the tau that will allows you to become part of their empire, the craftworld eldar that will do… something?, the necrons that will likely kill you right away. So, yeah, daemons, Chaos marines and Dark Eldar are likely to torture you and therefore worse than Orks. Big deal.
The Imperium will absolutely torture you, especially if you're a human. Inquisitor gets the wrong vibe from your planet? Gratz, random citizens start disappearing and are tortured beyond belief. World invaded by Xenos, but they're fought off and you survive? Gratz, you're tortured to be 'purified' of xeno taint and then killed. DEMONS show up ANYWHERE on your planet? Congratulations, even if the incursion is fought back you will, at best, be sterilized and forced to work yourself to death in brutal conditions.
The list goes on, the Imperium is a really horrifying place torture wise. If you don't think that they're willing to torture xenos for information either then you're naïve. And that's to mention nothing of simply 'studying' them, a process which is just as bad as torture and just as painful.
Necrons are stated as having tortures after a fashion. There's a specific case where a Cryptek forcefully gave a human Necron implants, and despite her numerous attempts to escape / flee he just teleported her back to the tomb complex eventually each time, chuckling all the while. It may not be the kind of torture the Dark Eldar will put you through, but there's a precident.
Given the much darker implications of the Tau, are we really going to try and say they don't torture? They're heavily hinted at using mind control, racial suppression, sterilization, and many other Orwellian tactics to reach their ends and keep populations in check. I'd be absolutely floored if, at the very least, their "re-education" programs didn't involve torture at least as a punishment.
Eldar I'll give you. They'd probably only torture once in awhile for information and little more than that, though I'd argue this is more than made up for by the sheer horror which being captured by their darker kin would be.
EDIT: I am, again, not saying Orks are nice by any stretch of the imagination; they're most certainly complete donkey-caves and a scourge upon the universe.
My point was simply that they're not that way out of hatred or guile, they're that way out of their nature. Similarly to how animals are driven to eat and reproduce, Orks are driven to fight and kill (.. which in turn feeds them and makes more of them). They do not grasp that this is "wrong", the concept is foreign to them. They're not like the Dark Eldar; fallen to the depths of depravity and simply lying to themselves about why they do what they do, putting others through unimaginable misery for years (if not forever) only to sustain their own miserable existence because they F-ed up long ago.
That's why I feel Tyranids and Orks are the "least douche-baggy", because their morality and ethics are completely different from our own. So while they are definitely horrible monsters, they're that way because they were made that way, not because they chose it (unwittingly or otherwise). I feel like Eldar are the runners up, but Eldar can be complete gits. They're racism and arrogance is borderline laughable, and while 'affection' for the other races is something only Tau can ever be seen as having, Eldar kick it up a notch. Peaceful back-water mining world which never bothered nobody? Yeah, you better pack the entire planetary population into that one shuttle you have. Get it done in 16 hours, everyone left on the surface dies after that.
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morganfreeman wrote: The Imperium will absolutely torture you, especially if you're a human.
No. Some subfaction of the Imperium will torture you in some very specific situation. Most will just kill you. They do not have time for torture anyway.
morganfreeman wrote: Necrons are stated as having tortures after a fashion. There's a specific case where a Cryptek forcefully gave a human Necron implants, and despite her numerous attempts to escape / flee he just teleported her back to the tomb complex eventually each time, chuckling all the while. It may not be the kind of torture the Dark Eldar will put you through, but there's a precident.
Oh well. Just imagine what it is being taken as a pet by some warboss. Or worse, some medik.
morganfreeman wrote: Given the much darker implications of the Tau, are we really going to try and say they don't torture?
Not on a regular basis, no.
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https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/08/11 01:58:06
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
morganfreeman wrote: The Imperium will absolutely torture you, especially if you're a human.
No. Some subfaction of the Imperium will torture you in some very specific situation. Most will just kill you. They do not have time for torture anyway.
morganfreeman wrote: Necrons are stated as having tortures after a fashion. There's a specific case where a Cryptek forcefully gave a human Necron implants, and despite her numerous attempts to escape / flee he just teleported her back to the tomb complex eventually each time, chuckling all the while. It may not be the kind of torture the Dark Eldar will put you through, but there's a precident.
Oh well. Just imagine what it is being taken as a pet by some warboss. Or worse, some medik.
morganfreeman wrote: Given the much darker implications of the Tau, are we really going to try and say they don't torture?
Not on a regular basis, no.
I'm not going to break the quotes up, it's such a bloody chore on Dakka.
Imperials will torture the hell out of you if you're a human, you're actually better off as a xeno. Even then they'll still torture the hell out of you for research purposes.
Being taken as a pet by an Ork Warboss / painboy: You try to run for your life / escape. You are subsequently shot / mauled, and basically die on the spot. Worst comes to worst you lose a limb or two, don't get proper medical attention, and die later of blood loss or infection. Not a great way to go.. But compared to what nearly every other faction will do to you most days of the week? A true mercy. Let's sit down and be honest here for a second, what fate would you rather meet.. Having an arm ripped off and die a few hours later of blood loss? Or become immortal, destined to spend the rest of your life on a dead world. No one to talk to, nothing to do, nothing to eat, no stimulation to be had. You are stuck there forever.
It's also noteworthy that, again, Orks don't have nearly as solid a grasp on pain or fear of death as the other races do. So you meet this end partially because they don't know any better.
The tau are pretty subversive, that much cannot be argued. Given they're essentially space aliens with the same foreign policy as Red China, torture would be very common place. It wouldn't be openly done or broadcasted much, but sweet jesus would it be practiced. In the end we'll have to agree to disagree on this particular faction, so it's more-or-less a mulligan.
morganfreeman wrote: Imperials will torture the hell out of you if you're a human
No. Most faction do not take prisoners. About every marine chapter will kill you on the spot. About every imperial guard regiment will do the same. Only Inquisitors willing to do an example will do mass torture, and even then it is usually burning at the stake or stuff like that.
morganfreeman wrote: Being taken as a pet by an Ork Warboss / painboy: You try to run for your life / escape. You are subsequently shot / mauled, and basically die on the spot.
You try to run for your life. You stop when you arrive at the end of the leash .
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2014/08/11 18:49:12
Subject: Re:The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2014/08/11 19:21:16
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2014/08/11 19:37:52
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ciciro wrote: And since when are the Tau known for their directness?
They are not know for being devious manipulators, unlike craftworld eldars and tzeentch followers. Also, the codicies are usually written in omniscient narrator style.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2014/08/11 21:02:04
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
The Tau would never do anything of the like, nor would the Eldar. At worst they would just kill you quickly.
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2014/08/11 21:14:43
Subject: Re:The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
The Tau would never do anything of the like, nor would the Eldar. At worst they would just kill you quickly.
Agree, though most orks don't take too many prisoners due to their addiction to fightin.
"Glory to the Iron father!"
2014/08/12 01:13:33
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
The Tau would never do anything of the like, nor would the Eldar. At worst they would just kill you quickly.
Agree, though most orks don't take too many prisoners due to their addiction to fightin.
An' Winnin'!
2014/08/12 01:36:18
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
The Tau would never do anything of the like, nor would the Eldar. At worst they would just kill you quickly.
Agree, though most orks don't take too many prisoners due to their addiction to fightin.
An' Winnin'!
Yes, and winnin of course lol
"Glory to the Iron father!"
2014/08/12 04:06:24
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
Well it's only fair, humans live off from plant life either directly from plants, or by eating animals that eat the plants.
It's time the plants got even
It is nice, it's beautiful, it's the circle of life.
2014/08/12 05:12:07
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
Well it's only fair, humans live off from plant life either directly from plants, or by eating animals that eat the plants.
It's time the plants got even
It is nice, it's beautiful, it's the circle of life.
Heretic!
"Glory to the Iron father!"
2014/08/12 09:43:49
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
The Tau would never do anything of the like, nor would the Eldar. At worst they would just kill you quickly.
It is, again, important to note that every other race (sans regular Eldar and Tau) do the exact same crap to everyone else and themselves. Orks are not unique - Orks just offer you a MUCH higher chance of dying, and doing so very soon. Again, would you rather die in agony on the Mad Dok's table? Or would you rather be sewn into the wall of a Haemonculi Coven, to spend years with people walking on your nerve bundles and have your mouth used as a fleshy lantern to illuminate the dark passageway.
I personally don't want either fate, but you can bet your life I'd rather be brutally cut to bits by a Dok over the period of maybe a few hours, rather than spend years in miserable pain.
Also, if you don't think the Tau do "research" you're kidding yourself. Live specimens are invaluable for weapons testing and understanding one's enemies, not to mention interrogation. The Tau may not be sadists, but they are massive expansionists. They doubtlessly capture enemies to study in various ways, and I'm better several are not very pleasent...
@ Hybrid: The Guard will gladly ship your ass off to miserable (and sterilized) forced labor, no questions asked. All of the religious nuts are, frankly, what I was referring to more than the inquisition. While an inquisitor getting his hands on you would be horrifying in the extreme, it's relatively unlikely when compared to simply being branded something akin to a heretic / disbelief, and subsequently "purified" by the local group of zealots.. Heck, even the Adeptus Mechanus (sp, I don't know all the faux latin names by memory =/) will perform extremely invasive surgery and hard-wire people into crap on a whim.
Ashiraya wrote: Those who think being captured by Orks would be nice, even compared to Tau or Eldar, need to read Rynn's World.
Yes, I am sure the Orks eating your friends and family and then eating you would be nice, or it would be nice to be caged and then forced to watch as the other prisoners are led into the Dok's room one by one where he conducts various horrible experiments, waiting for your turn. The Dok may lack the skill of the a Dark Eldar but that does not make the situation pleasant.
Well it's only fair, humans live off from plant life either directly from plants, or by eating animals that eat the plants.
It's time the plants got even
It is nice, it's beautiful, it's the circle of life.
Heretic!
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!
2014/08/12 10:15:04
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
morganfreeman wrote: @ Hybrid: The Guard will gladly ship your ass off to miserable (and sterilized) forced labor, no questions asked.
They will never do that by themselves, only under orders usually from an Inquisitor. And then again, never without very specific circumstances.
And even then, the forced labor that ork would have you do involves more bullying.
morganfreeman wrote: All of the religious nuts are, frankly, what I was referring to more than the inquisition.
Do you mean arcoflagellation?
Again, only on very specific occasions. The orks will do that every time they can.
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2014/08/12 11:36:34
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
None of the factions are "nice". Even the Ultramarines, ruling a large realm of developed worlds, are probably using secret police to make sure everyone is happy for living in Ultramar. Give praise to Marneus Calgar, Lord Macragge, or face imprisonment and worse.
Heck, the only Marines known to be nice to their recruiting world is the Salamanders - they keep up relations with their extended family, even acting as elders and protectors of their village.
2014/08/12 12:52:18
Subject: Re:The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
Jokaero are pretty nice. Not much for conversation, but otherwise pretty chill. Hang out with them, eat some fruit, let them pick lice out of your hair. Maybe they'll give you a space-toaster... or maybe a digi-melta.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
2014/08/12 21:27:22
Subject: The only race in 40k that aren't complete douchebags
The tau are pricks, eldar are easily the least Douche(y).
As much as a new race would be cool, I think they have enough problems keeping us all interested in and purchasing the ones they have out at the minute
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