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honestly, change will do the blood angels well. I know most of the "flavor" will be taken out, but most, if not all (don't have codex near me) of the entries have models. So, I wouldn't worry about units disappearing. Just a tone down of the unique rules in favor of ones in the standard rulebook.

Now, in terms of new units, I'm not sure if we will get much more than a flier and a few re-boxes or combo boxes. Except for Orks, which I'm not even positive they did (Flash glitz?) I'm pretty sure none of the new releases got any brand new troops sized kits. SW got the flier and the dread kit with the re-boxing for sky claws and long fangs and the bundles.

I would love a new sanguinary priest model. As they don't seem to vary much from a standard marine, and I pictured them all robed out and much more noble looking.

Mephiston, Dante, or Sanguinor as LOW and a re-scuplt - i couldn't guess which one it would be. Hell, they could remove the sanguinor for all i cared and have the other two be LOW. But as of right now, none of the newer codices got two LOWs, Bjorn is just a regular HQ despite popular belief that he's a LOW

I feel like the new force org chart for blood angels will do something to make our charge distances more reliable, like 6+d6 inches instead of 2d6. I feel like that would be pretty hot.

^Love it!

 th3maninblak wrote:
I feel like the new force org chart for blood angels will do something to make our charge distances more reliable, like 6+d6 inches instead of 2d6. I feel like that would be pretty hot.

Oh I really really really hope this happens. Its sooo disappointing when masters of assault flub a 4" charge. I mean we could always cop out and use bikes like everyone else, but who wants to have to do that when JPs are not only "our thing", but look much better as well.

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Bjorn is just a regular HQ despite popular belief that he's a LOW

"Popular belief" might be a bit of an overstatement, as I have never encountered anyone who believes this.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Bjorn is just a regular HQ despite popular belief that he's a LOW

"Popular belief" might be a bit of an overstatement, as I have never encountered anyone who believes this.

Hmm could have sworn I read someone say it earlier in the thread. Anyways a lot of the people at my flgs had the assumption he was. Apparently it's not that popular of a thought.

All I can say is clinch your buttox and prepare for the worst. After looking over the initial reports of what has happened to the Dark Eldar. You might just find yourselves going WTF like the rest of us.

 Jayden63 wrote:
All I can say is clinch your buttox and prepare for the worst. After looking over the initial reports of what has happened to the Dark Eldar. You might just find yourselves going WTF like the rest of us.

Truer words have never been spoken.

The only thing I 100% expect out of the new Blood Angels codex is that I will be disappointed by it.

 Carnage43 wrote:

 Jayden63 wrote:
All I can say is clinch your buttox and prepare for the worst. After looking over the initial reports of what has happened to the Dark Eldar. You might just find yourselves going WTF like the rest of us.

Truer words have never been spoken.

The only thing I 100% expect out of the new Blood Angels codex is that I will be disappointed by it.

The only thing I'm fairly sure of is that my collection will grow, and grow cheaply, when the chicken littles declare the game to be dead, Blood Angels to be terrible/lifeless/boring/or whatever, and sell their armies for no good reason.

Blood Angels "lightning raid"

1-2 HQ
0-4 elite
1-6 troops
0-4 fast attack
0-1 heavy support

Ferocious Assault: all models with the jump infantry type roll 6+d6 inches for their charge range instead of 2d6. This is not subject to the reroll that using a jump pack in the assault phase would normally allow. Additionally, if a unit chooses to use their jump packs in the assault phase, they gain +1 initiative on the turn that they charge.

Did i do it right?

 th3maninblak wrote:
Blood Angels "lightning raid"

1-2 HQ
0-4 elite
1-6 troops
0-4 fast attack
0-1 heavy support

Ferocious Assault: all models with the jump infantry type roll 6+d6 inches for their charge range instead of 2d6. This is not subject to the reroll that using a jump pack in the assault phase would normally allow. Additionally, if a unit chooses to use their jump packs in the assault phase, they gain +1 initiative on the turn that they charge.

Did i do it right?

Sounds legit to me.

 tomjoad wrote:

 Carnage43 wrote:

 Jayden63 wrote:
All I can say is clinch your buttox and prepare for the worst. After looking over the initial reports of what has happened to the Dark Eldar. You might just find yourselves going WTF like the rest of us.

Truer words have never been spoken.

The only thing I 100% expect out of the new Blood Angels codex is that I will be disappointed by it.

The only thing I'm fairly sure of is that my collection will grow, and grow cheaply, when the chicken littles declare the game to be dead, Blood Angels to be terrible/lifeless/boring/or whatever, and sell their armies for no good reason.

So not liking the changes to the army is not sufficient reason to quit the army. I didn't realize this game was a life long commitment. They should really put a warning on the box.

I want Blood Angels Terminator Sprue out of the Space Hulk Box. Red plastic optional, but awesome.

Well, to practice a bit of thread necromancy, both good news and disturbing news for the angels of death. Blood Angels were "accidentally" mentioned in the new Dark Eldar supplement, which lends credence to us being next.

That being said, several anonymous people are spouting off rumors about necrons being next, citing that the physical codex is no longer available. It is, btw, just a search error.

If necrons are indeed next, then it means that 3 codices have been updated TWICE before us. Which would make me all kinds of ludicrously angry.

First off...after seeing my new codex for DE....and my other army is BA

Blood angels shouldn't complain. Look what happened to Space Wolves...


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Their new snazzy tool is.... a gun that has a chance to kill low strength multi-wound models.... Also their chapter master was nerfed so hard that no one will take him again except in a completelu fluff list.

Enjoy your Blood angels not having a new crappy codex. Enjoy the one you have, before you have to start telling every person you play "Hey, I'm going to play with the old codex, cool?"

We dont have any special characters to lose. Everyone has models. All we are going to get is points adjustments, relics and warlord traits. If we arent next, we should all riot.

 Pyeatt wrote:
Blood angels shouldn't complain

The BA FAQ is almost big enough to be it's own codex.
BA are considered to be low tier.
BA have no Grav weapons, Centurions, or any 6E SM vehicles

Their new snazzy tool is.... a gun that has a chance to kill low strength multi-wound models....

You got a Wolverine Dreadnaught, Santas Sleigh, and a flying Landraider

Also their chapter master was nerfed so hard that no one will take him again except in a completelu fluff list.

I've yet to see someone field Commander Dante, Lord of Blood Angels, and I own 2 of the model

Enjoy your Blood angels not having a new crappy codex. Enjoy the one you have, before you have to start telling every person you play "Hey, I'm going to play with the old codex, cool?"

I'm sure Warlord traits, relics, and the point decreases alone will make it worth it. There isn't anything, other than possibley the Death Company, worth nerfing,so it's all good.

Also, I'm looking forward to FA Drop Pods and the Blood Angles formation that will probably let us field nothing but death company

Someone at my FLGS added Santa toy sack to the sleigh and a fat Santa in Termie..wait..that Grimnar isn't it?

As for the LandRaider in the sky.....same guy added oars to his and viking shields above them

 adamsouza wrote:

 Pyeatt wrote:
Blood angels shouldn't complain

The BA FAQ is almost big enough to be it's own codex.
BA are considered to be low tier.
BA have no Grav weapons, Centurions, or any 6E SM vehicles

Their new snazzy tool is.... a gun that has a chance to kill low strength multi-wound models....

You got a Wolverine Dreadnaught, Santas Sleigh, and a flying Landraider

Also their chapter master was nerfed so hard that no one will take him again except in a completelu fluff list.

I've yet to see someone field Commander Dante, Lord of Blood Angels, and I own 2 of the model

Enjoy your Blood angels not having a new crappy codex. Enjoy the one you have, before you have to start telling every person you play "Hey, I'm going to play with the old codex, cool?"

I'm sure Warlord traits, relics, and the point decreases alone will make it worth it. There isn't anything, other than possibley the Death Company, worth nerfing,so it's all good.

Also, I'm looking forward to FA Drop Pods and the Blood Angles formation that will probably let us field nothing but death company

Thats what im saying. Anything is better than what we have now.

Adamsouza raises some valid points.


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I think I'm mainly just bitter. I already had 8 different armies before they started with the hardcover codexes. I'm up to 11 now. The problem is, all of my armies were decent/fun/passable before their new codexes. Now 10 of mine have modern codexes, and only Necrons are left... The only one of my armies that got better (With the models I owned BEFORE their new codex was released) was Grey Knights. I wanted to start blood angels for a number 12. But I think I'll wait a bit.

 Jihadin wrote:
Someone at my FLGS added Santa toy sack to the sleigh and a fat Santa in Termie..wait..that Grimnar isn't it?

As for the LandRaider in the sky.....same guy added oars to his and viking shields above them

That guy is awesome !!

Players like that a real joy to play against

 adamsouza wrote:

 Pyeatt wrote:
Blood angels shouldn't complain

The BA FAQ is almost big enough to be it's own codex.
BA are considered to be low tier.
BA have no Grav weapons, Centurions, or any 6E SM vehicles

Their new snazzy tool is.... a gun that has a chance to kill low strength multi-wound models....

You got a Wolverine Dreadnaught, Santas Sleigh, and a flying Landraider

Also their chapter master was nerfed so hard that no one will take him again except in a completelu fluff list.

I've yet to see someone field Commander Dante, Lord of Blood Angels, and I own 2 of the model

Enjoy your Blood angels not having a new crappy codex. Enjoy the one you have, before you have to start telling every person you play "Hey, I'm going to play with the old codex, cool?"

I'm sure Warlord traits, relics, and the point decreases alone will make it worth it. There isn't anything, other than possibley the Death Company, worth nerfing,so it's all good.

Also, I'm looking forward to FA Drop Pods and the Blood Angles formation that will probably let us field nothing but death company

Personally I really like the new SW Codex overall, and that seems to be the general consensus around here (for what it's worth).

Im not entirely sure what the issue with the space wolf dex. Seems fine to me.

 th3maninblak wrote:
We dont have any special characters to lose. Everyone has models. All we are going to get is points adjustments, relics and warlord traits. If we arent next, we should all riot.

The IG lost special characters that had models, so nothing is for certain other than a bland codex and required supplement to add the flavor back in.

 th3maninblak wrote:
We dont have any special characters to lose. Everyone has models. All we are going to get is points adjustments, relics and warlord traits. If we arent next, we should all riot.

Vect had a model and a boat to go with it. I dont see him anywhere around either. Your SCs are not safe.

 Jayden63 wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
We dont have any special characters to lose. Everyone has models. All we are going to get is points adjustments, relics and warlord traits. If we arent next, we should all riot.

Vect had a model and a boat to go with it. I dont see him anywhere around either. Your SCs are not safe.

Doubtful, unless its tycho or something. Though BoLS thinks necrons are next. Time to riot.

Fast Attack Drop Pods and Centurions with Blood Claws !!

 adamsouza wrote:


The BA FAQ is almost big enough to be it's own codex.

Same with Necrons. It's the result of being 2 editions behind. Expect a lot of "unique" wargear to go away like Space Wolves, and special rules to be turned into USRs like Dark Eldar.

 adamsouza wrote:

BA are considered to be low tier.

So are most Tyranid builds, most CSM builds, and most DA builds. And most Ork lists without using Codex Ghazkull.

 adamsouza wrote:

BA have no Grav weapons, Centurions, or any 6E SM vehicles

And they probably won't be getting any of that. BA are their own unique book, so asking for the special SM toys as well is just being greedy. BA are unique, not SM +1.

What I expect for BA:
Terminator kit with new unit- Sanguinary Wardens- Sang guard in TDA instead of jump packs.
Redone SM Assault Squad- 5 guys for $40, updated like vanguard vets, with less thunder hammers and lightning claws and more power weapons, flamers, and melta guns.
Clampack Sanguinary Priest.

Rules:
Red Thirst and Descent of Angels become the Chapter tactics- Red thirst becomes something like "On a roll of 10 or more for charge distance, the unit gains the furious charge rule"
Stormraven to match Codex SM
Death Company Dred becomes an upgrade for a dread, not a troop choice.
Death Company units get cheaper upgrades and weapons, but smaller max size. Formation for DC Tycho or Lemartes and 2-3 units of DC.
Mepheston and/or Sanguinor moves to Lord of War
BA specific psychic powers gone.
Sang Priests no longer bubble abilities, but buff unit they are attached to. Become a "May buy 1 per other HQ you take" type slot.
Death Mask grants Fear USR. Dante's mask has fear and -2 Ld for units nearby.
Seth loses Whirlwind of Gore for Rampage.
Blood fist becomes power fist.
Blood Talon becomes either rampage or shred.
Magna-grapple simplified.
Unit prices for basic units brought into line with Codex Marine prices.

That's what I expect for Codex: BA

In terms of models, here are some of the things I would expect or at least like to see.

Descent of Angels - this would be an Assault Squad with either one of the sprues switched out or a new sprue added in with some of the Blood Angels special weapons like the Infernus Pistol or Hand Flamer. This way a BA player can make a DoA force easier.

A plastic Chaplain model. Heck, they could even just release the Reclusiam Command Squad Chaplain in a plastic blister.

For the most part, BA aren't so much about all new units (besides the Death Company, which already exist).