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You forgot to add that it'll be a codex only 1 week release, and anything not currently available as a plastic kit will simply be removed entirely from the webstore.

Thus, our codex will no longer have rules for;
PA Sorcerers
Warpsmith
Dark Apostle
Chosen
Mutilators
Plaguemarines
Noise Marines
Havocs
Oblits

1kSons & 'Zerkers will be 'safe' from the model line purge, as they have/will have plastic kits, but instead of being in the parent CSM codex, they'll instead get moved into their proper Khornekin codex. (and simply forgotten entirely in the same of poor 1kSons, who will thus only become usable if you go 'Unbound'!)

I was in the washroom at the office today, and I overheard someone saying there will be a formation in the new codex that uses 3 x 3 units of Oblitorators, which will grant them Soulblaze and hammer of wrath.

Exciting stuff!!

 Konrax wrote:
I was in the washroom at the office today, and I overheard someone saying there will be a formation in the new codex that uses 3 x 3 units of Oblitorators, which will grant them Soulblaze and hammer of wrath.

Exciting stuff!!

Such overpowered nonsense will never get past quality control!

 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:

 Konrax wrote:
I was in the washroom at the office today, and I overheard someone saying there will be a formation in the new codex that uses 3 x 3 units of Oblitorators, which will grant them Soulblaze and hammer of wrath.

Exciting stuff!!

Such overpowered nonsense will never get past quality control!

I heard it was Rage + HoW, with an added rule that if Oblits start their turn within max charge range of an enemy unit they must attempt to assault that turn, otherwise they must Run in the shooting phase if they're not within maximum charge range.

LESS LULZ/SPAM/ETC. AND MORE SUBSTANCE, PLEASE.

Copy the statline and special rules for Wulfen.

Paste it into the statline for Possessed.

Remove their weapon upgrades, the silly Curse of the Wulfen table, and ATSKNF, and make them Beasts.

Edit: Off topic side note: why in the heck do Wulfen get ATSKNF? It makes zero sense from a fluff point of view.

I say that's a pretty bad oversight.

 Lukash_ wrote:
Copy the statline and special rules for Wulfen.

Paste it into the statline for Possessed.

Remove their weapon upgrades, the silly Curse of the Wulfen table, and ATSKNF, and make them Beasts.

Edit: Off topic side note: why in the heck do Wulfen get ATSKNF? It makes zero sense from a fluff point of view.

Meh, they're Space Marines still... apparently.
Can't have our Mary Sue overlords missing out anything now, can we?!

I really, really, really would love to see Possessed go back to their 3.5ed incarnation though... ie; basic unit with some meaner stats such as S5/A3 base, and then options for marks, AND a new upgrade chart so you can purchase things like;
- Daemonic Talons: +3pts/model - gives Rending to all attacks
- Warptouch: +3pts/model - give Poisoned 4+ & ap4 to all attacks
- Iridescent Corona: +2 pts/model - gives Soul Blaze to attacks & 12"/S4/ap4/Assault 2/Soul Blaze shooting
- Winged Horrors: +4pts/model - changes unit type to Jetpack Infantry
- Daemonic Resiliance: +4pts/model - gives FnP 4+
- Daemonic Fury: +5pts/model - model makes its full attacks when killed, even if its already attacked this turn. (ala Wulfen ability)

Hell, allow the unit to purchase up to 2 such upgrades, which while extremely expensive, can help make some insanely unique & characterful units!

 Lukash_ wrote:
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Edit: Off topic side note: why in the heck do Wulfen get ATSKNF? It makes zero sense from a fluff point of view.

So does most of the new Wulfen stuff.

Experiment 626 wrote:

 Lukash_ wrote:
Copy the statline and special rules for Wulfen.

Paste it into the statline for Possessed.

Remove their weapon upgrades, the silly Curse of the Wulfen table, and ATSKNF, and make them Beasts.

Edit: Off topic side note: why in the heck do Wulfen get ATSKNF? It makes zero sense from a fluff point of view.

Meh, they're Space Marines still... apparently.
Can't have our Mary Sue overlords missing out anything now, can we?!

I really, really, really would love to see Possessed go back to their 3.5ed incarnation though... ie; basic unit with some meaner stats such as S5/A3 base, and then options for marks, AND a new upgrade chart so you can purchase things like;
- Daemonic Talons: +3pts/model - gives Rending to all attacks
- Warptouch: +3pts/model - give Poisoned 4+ & ap4 to all attacks
- Iridescent Corona: +2 pts/model - gives Soul Blaze to attacks & 12"/S4/ap4/Assault 2/Soul Blaze shooting
- Winged Horrors: +4pts/model - changes unit type to Jetpack Infantry
- Daemonic Resiliance: +4pts/model - gives FnP 4+
- Daemonic Fury: +5pts/model - model makes its full attacks when killed, even if its already attacked this turn. (ala Wulfen ability)

Hell, allow the unit to purchase up to 2 such upgrades, which while extremely expensive, can help make some insanely unique & characterful units!

Yeah, something like that would go a long way into making the unit better. The d3 just isn't cutting it.

 Lukash_ wrote:
Copy the statline and special rules for Wulfen.

Paste it into the statline for Possessed.

Remove their weapon upgrades, the silly Curse of the Wulfen table, and ATSKNF, and make them Beasts.

Edit: Off topic side note: why in the heck do Wulfen get ATSKNF? It makes zero sense from a fluff point of view.

Can we also make the models a little less silly looking while we are it? Possessed just kinda look like demons in bad space marine cosplay... And I actually do like the look of the chaos marines, and the demons, just not the possesed.

Current plastic possessed suck. The 3rd edition metals were quite acceptable.

 Korinov wrote:
Current plastic possessed suck. The 3rd edition metals were quite acceptable.

Eh. I don't really mind the current plastics... sure they could be better, but then, we're also talking about a kit that's almost 10 years old now!
While a few of the bitz are goofy, overall they still hold up when you give them a suitably dark paint scheme. Anything bright just shows up the cartoonyness of those old sculpts.

Still, it would be nice to get a re-do on them, especially after seeing what GW can do nowadays. But then, that's a problem for 95% of our entire freaking model line!

Edit: when it comes down to it though, Possessed are about the last kit in our range that needs re-doing... Basic Chaos Marines, Terminators, *ALL* the Cult units, Havocs, Chosen , Bikers & Cultists need major overhauls and/or actual kits to begin with, long before the Possessed get anything new.

 Korinov wrote:
Current plastic possessed suck. The 3rd edition metals were quite acceptable.

Except that there was no posseseds kit metal or other in 3rd, the first metal possesed models where from end of 4th, then when 5th Ed codex came out, the current plastic ones came out.

And the metal ones where those guys...



i'll have the plastic ones everyday of the week over those horseshits.

Weird, as far as I remembered, the plastic kit was released during 4th edition, and those metal ones were from 3rd.

Anyway, the metal ones are not great models, they have not aged too well and the one on the right looks terrible with that blue skin paintjob... but I'd still have them over the current plastic kit. The current kit is simply terrible, for my taste at least, among the worst plastic models GW has ever released.

Funny, I actually quite like the plastic possessed. If only the rules were less gak.
Well, I like most current chaos models.

 Korinov wrote:
Weird, as far as I remembered, the plastic kit was released during 4th edition, and those metal ones were from 3rd.

Anyway, the metal ones are not great models, they have not aged too well and the one on the right looks terrible with that blue skin paintjob... but I'd still have them over the current plastic kit. The current kit is simply terrible, for my taste at least, among the worst plastic models GW has ever released.

In 3rd there was no official posseseds kit, there was a Mutations sprue with CSM boxes, and at the time you still had some hobby section in codexes to show how to convert stuffs.

My Possesed from the time was a mix of CSM kits from 2nd Ed and Old plastic Genestealers with some orks bits, because i started before they re-did the CSM box and added the mutations sprue.

The Metal possesed came at the same time that you had the Khorne Lord with Bloodfeeder( the Daemon weapon that gave you 2D6 A) and the metal Khorne Zerkers champs, those where released with the 4th Ed codex from Gav Thorpe and Allesio, where there was no real Daemons, only generic ones.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
Weird, as far as I remembered, the plastic kit was released during 4th edition, and those metal ones were from 3rd.

Anyway, the metal ones are not great models, they have not aged too well and the one on the right looks terrible with that blue skin paintjob... but I'd still have them over the current plastic kit. The current kit is simply terrible, for my taste at least, among the worst plastic models GW has ever released.

In 3rd there was no official posseseds kit, there was a Mutations sprue with CSM boxes, and at the time you still had some hobby section in codexes to show how to convert stuffs.

My Possesed from the time was a mix of CSM kits from 2nd Ed and Old plastic Genestealers with some orks bits, because i started before they re-did the CSM box and added the mutations sprue.

The Metal possesed came at the same time that you had the Khorne Lord with Bloodfeeder( the Daemon weapon that gave you 2D6 A) and the metal Khorne Zerkers champs, those where released with the 4th Ed codex from Gav Thorpe and Allesio, where there was no real Daemons, only generic ones.

Actually, the metal Possessed iirc, came out as part of the Eye of Terror campaign.

The Gav/Allesio travesty of a codex that came out in Oct. 2007 came with the following "new" kits;
- Re-cut basic CSM kit. (going from 8 models to a full 10, plus some new components & a re-worked 'command frame')
- Plastic Terminator Lord/Sorcerer kit
- Plastic Terminator kit
- Plastic Possessed kit
- "new" Vindicator kit (ie: loyalist kit with 2 'Chaos' sprues thrown in)

plus re-boxing with updated box art for the likes of the Chaos Rhino, Predator & Land Raider, and a re-done Battleforce.


I recall this release clearly, since I was working at the local GW at the time, and basically every staff member was a Chaos player! We ended up buying out almost half our new release stock the night before the actual release, sold almost all the rest over the weekend, and then everyone a week later realised just how god-awful the rules turned out!

In my memory they came later then EoT, because i can't find any pictures of those in the EoT codex that i have.

The awful metal possessed came out with the Medusa V (or VI or maybe XVIII, I can't remember) campaign along with the Nurgle Daemon Prince model.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
The awful metal possessed came out with the Medusa V (or VI or maybe XVIII, I can't remember) campaign along with the Nurgle Daemon Prince model.

Cheers for that! I'd honestly forgotten entirely about that campaign, since iirc, didn't GW end up writing it that "everyone wins!" in the end, so as to avoid the massive fanboy whining that ruined EoT?!

Riiiiiiiight!!! Medusa V, completly forgot about that one, it was soo insignificant and useless that i forgot about it.

Experiment 626 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
The awful metal possessed came out with the Medusa V (or VI or maybe XVIII, I can't remember) campaign along with the Nurgle Daemon Prince model.

Cheers for that! I'd honestly forgotten entirely about that campaign, since iirc, didn't GW end up writing it that "everyone wins!" in the end, so as to avoid the massive fanboy whining that ruined EoT?!

I think everyone won except CSM who lost to SM. IIRC everyone had their own objective but the SM and CSM objectives were mutually opposed. So autolose for CSM.

I always thought the idea of possessed was that the gamer went crazy with conversions and created a unique looking unit. A possessed /kit goes against the entire idea of warped and chaotic looking models!
I also quite like having units in the codex that don't have models available, as it means that there are always going to be interesting models around when people pick that unit.