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4x frag marines, 1x Black Shield with power weapon, 1x drop pod.

Attach a Terminator pr libby or w/e.

Yay meta

 Wolfblade wrote:
It's a shame the blackshield can't get any upgrades, seems like a waste considering the only reason to take it is for the better CC ability. (assuming it goes the way of command squad apoths)

The Blackshield can take Melee, Ranged, or Special weapons as well as a Storm Shield as those are available to any model. I wish he could take a Xenophase Blade, though.

i did 4 frag cannons, one watch sergeant with an auspex, tartaros (for looks) termie with a cyclone missile launcher in a pod as my Aquila kill team.

I need an expendable team to back up artemis...

If he uses the Strategium Command Team in a drop pod, hpw should I kit them out? I plan to stasis bomb a tank or HQ, so I need to be able to charge on T2, but I also need the marines to be somewhat cheap.

so far ive built 2 aquila frag squads using that ^ load out, 2 furor stalker teams, a 5 man shotty and bolter squad, artemis, the dark angel DW model as a libby, an ASS and heavy flamer ven dread and a 5 man HTH vanguard squad.

Getting 2 more boxes of vets when there released to make a 10 man storm shield squad for arty or a chappie to go in either a corvus or just deep strike by themselves, just stumped on melee weapons for them atm, thinking half power lances half power axes, maybe a fist on the watch sergeant.


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 Selym wrote:
I need an expendable team to back up artemis...

If he uses the Strategium Command Team in a drop pod, hpw should I kit them out? I plan to stasis bomb a tank or HQ, so I need to be able to charge on T2, but I also need the marines to be somewhat cheap.

you'd want a chappie in that squad to lower the chance of him giving the D to himself only a 25% of hitting himself then i believe? as for a squad id probs get a strat kill team with a chappie for furious charge then attach arty to it so he has a powerful squad, if given all power lances, thats 15 rerolling to hit str 6 ap 3 attacks rerolling 1's to wound

What is ASS?

my term for assault cannon

EDIT: I hatr my phone

 Selym wrote:
EDIT: I hatr my phone

which part are you saying noice to


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Ooog idea Selym

What about for arty you use a hand flamer and CCW squad to go with him with a chappie (or libbie fishing for rending) that way you have a squad thats relatively cheap but is pumping out 20-40 attacks at str 5 on the charge (depending on squad size) that gets all the rerolls under the sun whilst arty drops the D on any thing hard or important? just my quick thoughts. its about 400pts min with the 2 characters and the 5 man CCW and Hand flamer squad.

Interesting idea...

I was saying noice to the previous idea, too.

Also, isn't the short version of assault cannon ASC?

my gaming group has always called them ASS for short maybe because they are ass in terms of other weapon choices... wish the dreads had more weapon options like C:SM

Speaking of assault cannons, DW can take a unit of 5 termies, each with an assault cannon. There has to be a use for that.

its just the expense of the unit.... ;-;

like yea 20 str 6 ap 4 rending shots... but... termies.. :( if we could take them as heavy weapons for vets thatd be so coooo, imagine it with some type of special ammo too <3 but so far for me, a unit of cyclones just beats it *shudders from past experiences fighting my mates iron warriors tyrant siege termies*

I used an ASS termie with chainfist in another KT, so at least I can say that all my DW terminators have an ASC

see your using ASS now!

*you're - I get a free spell correction because of that!

Yea, I was making sure to avoid confusion

if we could have a unit of 5 plasma cannon termies id be like


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 Selym wrote:
*you're - I get a free spell correction because of that!

Yea, I was making sure to avoid confusion

Bu.. Bu.. Bully

Oh. My. God.

Plasma Termies.

With Storm Shields, ofc.

im allowed to do spelling mistakes as im an ork at heart... just a sneaky kommando who has infiltrated the DW


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and dont forget cyclone missiles to.. would be like 85-90pts per termie though..

While I'm thinking about it, has anyone built a DW team for Kill Team matches?

>150 pts
>200 pts
>250 pts
>300 pts

So thinking of running this as an Aquila Kill-Team.

10 Man-Kill Team
Librarian
Level Two
Tome of Ectolades
Sergeant with Combi-Plasma
2 Marines with Combi-Plasma
2 with Bolter
4 with Frag Cannon
Drop Pod

Thoughts? I'm trying to put out a bunch of AP2 with re-rolls. Thinking of swapping those 2 bolter marines for a Cyclone Terminator.

You can have a plasma gun and bolter per guy (no faq yet) for 5pts more, and give the serg a auspex for minus 1 cover

Alright so today I finally had a match with my Deathwatch and thought I'd give a mini battle report (As this is a tactics thread not a battle report thread) to comment on what worked and didnt.

I will say before I start this I have a habit of rolling VERY well, a single SH tanking 16 ap3 hits good.....

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So I was versing KDK at 850 points.

My list, used the models from Death Masque and a drop pod;

Strategium Command Team
5 vets with power swords, bolters, a frag cannon, black shield with power swords, watch sergeant with xeno blade.
5 vanguard vets, 2 HTH, 2 TH/SH, 1 TH/Plasma pistol
Artemis
Special Dreadnaught Nihilis
Drop pod

His list;
Chaos lord with bloodthirster summoning axe
2x 10 Bloodletters
2x 10 cultists
hellbrute (in formation with cultists for super cover and fearless cultists)
Soulgrinder
Maulerfiend

His turn 1 he failed to kill anything with phlem bombard

Turn 1 I DP'd Nihilus to one side to distract the mauler and hellbrute, moving the killteam up cover and running them. Killed 2 cultists with the plasma cannon.....Not particularly interesting.

His turn 2 his soulgrinder munched the hell out of nihilus and only took 1 hull point and an immobilise in return. One Bloodletter squad DP'd behind my killteam and ran to within and inch.

My turn 2 Saw me charge his soungrinder, 2 hits connected, 1 killed the frag cannon and the other bounced of a storm shield (Just bad placement on my part with the frag cannon) and I took it apart with the thunderhammers.

His turn 3 saw the bloodletters fail to charge, his other squad DP in behind me again and his maulerfiend charge to kill 1 normal vet, I killed the maulerfiend in return.

Turn 4 saw him charge with both b.letter squads, the hellbrute, both cultists and chaos lord. Chaos lord and artemis both took 1 wound of each other. Bloodletters did SFA and killed nothing. Cultists killed 1 SH, the hellbrute killed another normal. I killed both cultist squads, the hellbrute and 18 of the 20 letters. He then summoned a Hellcannon.

My turn 4 saw me finish off the 2 letters, artemis stasis bombed the lord to death which summon a B.Thirster in my midst.

Turn 5 saw him kill artemis with his B.thirster and then that thirster get insta deathed by HTH's.

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Long story short we went for 2 more turns because it was so much fun and my team defied the odds every damn time and versed waves and waves of enemies.

Thematically it's every I wanted from the Deathwatch. A small squad fighting IMPOSSIBLE odds and waves of xenos and daemons to come out victorious.

Rules wise;

HTH are amazing
The Black Shield is amazing
Dreadnaughts are still meh
Artemis is honestly kind of meh
The Clavis is amazing (honestly probably won me the game)
The amount of power weapons in the squad is super expensive
The frag cannon died before firing so cant comment yet
Mission tactics and killteam bonus were completely essential

Over all I honestly feel this is a great start. This army has a hectically strong punching power against what was a VERY hard army. That much armour at such low points concerned me in a huge way.

I wouldn't use a killteam this expensive under 1000 points again. Would just use ranged, frag cannon based, squads. Can't wait to get everything I need for my 1500 list, it should be hectic.

Cheers,

Qwerty

Yeah, my bad, he can take anything that's any model, just nothing that's veteran only

I don't think Artemis has a Clavis. That seems to be watch master only.

Yeah it is.

Ah that's my bad, I swapped the TH/PP at the last minute for a chaplain with the osseus key, not a clavis. My bad.

Does Nihilis do anything special or is he just a Dread with a Plasma Cannon?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Does Nihilis do anything special or is he just a Dread with a Plasma Cannon?

6++ invun and 5++ vs witchfire powers


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Qwerty2jam wrote:
Ah that's my bad, I swapped the TH/PP at the last minute for a chaplain with the osseus key, not a clavis. My bad.

I dont believe a chappie can get the osseus key, its for watch masters only?

 deffrekka wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Does Nihilis do anything special or is he just a Dread with a Plasma Cannon?

6++ invun and 5++ vs witchfire powers


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Qwerty2jam wrote:
Ah that's my bad, I swapped the TH/PP at the last minute for a chaplain with the osseus key, not a clavis. My bad.

I dont believe a chappie can get the osseus key, its for watch masters only?

Because it's a clavis lol. Just the relic clavis.