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2018/05/14 15:59:29
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Clousseau
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skoffs wrote:
Here I was thinking I'd settled on Deathrattle, and then that trailer comes along. Now I'm back at square one.
Well there is a whole new edition coming out... And cheap chaff is usually the backbone of any good list.
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Galas wrote:I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you
Bharring wrote:He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic. |
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2018/05/16 20:34:36
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Small Wyrm of Slaanesh
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skoffs wrote:
Here I was thinking I'd settled on Deathrattle, and then that trailer comes along. Now I'm back at square one.
Not that i'm biased, as Night Haunt was my first army....but I'd definitely wait to see more scroll before making the decision.
At the end of the day, spirits, skeletons. They all serve Nagash, so why not both <3
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2018/05/23 17:30:29
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Clousseau
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Reporting back, had a few small games with my Stormcast buddy.
I am winning the games against his stormcast.
1. Grave sites are really good in small games. With a small army you're always fighting in proximity to at least 2 of them.
2. Curse of years - i know the odds are super low for it to deal its infinite wounds, but i've done it to him twice now. I erased his 2+ rerollable 1 save drakes with it, from 20" away thanks to Arkhan's command ability. I know this won't happen every time, but it was pretty gnarly.
We also did a 3 player game, with Ironjawz, Stormcast, and me. In the end we called it because on turn 3 i had lost 0 models thanks to regeneration.
This has left a pretty sour taste in his mouth and he's upset. I'm not sure if that's fair, though. I feel like his army is very powerful, and he's just playing to my strengths. Also, i'm going to have an advantage in smaller games because my stuff doesn't scale any more as you increase points. Anyway. It was an interesting experience. I think he was expecting to crush me? I dunno.
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Galas wrote:I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you
Bharring wrote:He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic. |
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2018/05/23 18:17:33
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Clousseau
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His army is very powerful and yeah he needs to learn target priority a little bit (not having seen the battles I can only assume that he's running right up to you and doing exactly what you need him to do, and then he's getting upset)
However... death with the ghb 2017 got a big boost. particularly with the costs to the chaffe being very cheap and then add on grave sites now.
To face death you really need to prioritize killing the heroes. But with cheap skeletons that in hordes have a very high output of damage that can force them to have to react to that instead.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/23 18:17:58
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2018/05/23 19:00:42
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Clousseau
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Also, I made a mistake with the calculation of the Curse of Years i posted earlier. It should be .next(1,7). This smoothes the curve. I also calculated the fatality probability by hand. 1 - ((1 - 5!/6^5)^10) = ~0.144034 or 14.4%. This is more in line with my experience playing Arkhan. Automatically Appended Next Post: auticus wrote:His army is very powerful and yeah he needs to learn target priority a little bit (not having seen the battles I can only assume that he's running right up to you and doing exactly what you need him to do, and then he's getting upset) Essentially yes, he's content to walk right into my skeletons and wolves. I'm running literally 4 units. Hexwraiths, 10 Skeletons, 5 Wolves, and Arkhan. Without Arkhan i couldn't make a dent in him. I have a feeling this will scale better at 2k. I'm bummed he's being so salty about it though. I didn't even know what curse of years was before i bought the pack. It's literally a start collecting pack, and 5 wolves. He's got a stardrake guy coming, coupled with his other dragons and his starsoul hammerbros i think he should be fine.
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2018/05/23 19:12:18
Galas wrote:I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you
Bharring wrote:He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic. |
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2018/05/23 19:23:52
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Clousseau
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Once he figures out how to do crap like the 2++ save mortal wound spewing guys and the retributor death star that does about 16-18 wounds reliably every combat phase, and then gets to do the alpha strike teleport everything into your mouth on turn 1 and charge and erase your army, things will swing quickly to the other side lol
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2018/05/23 19:58:05
Subject: Getting Started... with newer models
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Clousseau
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auticus wrote:Once he figures out how to do crap like the 2++ save mortal wound spewing guys and the retributor death star that does about 16-18 wounds reliably every combat phase, and then gets to do the alpha strike teleport everything into your mouth on turn 1 and charge and erase your army, things will swing quickly to the other side lol
Yeah, i'm not concerned with losing to that. Ultimately if he wants to build a top tier list i'll just take my lumps. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, any suggestions on how to make gravesites? I would like to represent them with models.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/23 21:04:33
Galas wrote:I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you
Bharring wrote:He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic. |
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