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Good to see you’re still about. The shields and swords look great!

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Thanks, Gwyn. It's nice to see you around and still on your hobby log. The High Elf miniatures don't give much room for custom heraldry, but I did try to keep the bits somewhat consistent for each Silver Helm. Thank you as well, Olthannon. I encourage you to get back into the High Elves if you are able and enjoy them. The high fantasy bases draw together the many colors on the miniatures, I think. If I used a plain base the rest of the miniature might have too much color and look strange. That's my hypothesis, anyway. Finally, good to see you again, gobert. It is nice to be painting again.

The Silver Helm riders are done. Here they are matched up with their shields and swords. Those will be attached after they are mounted to keep it simple. These guys could use banners, but I don't like the plastic banners that come in the sets. If anyone knows a decent place to get quality High Elf images that can be used for banners please let me know. I've scoured the internet and haven't found much.


They will no doubt need touch ups after seeing them posted. A few thoughts follow. Vallejo Model Air Silver is the silver that beats all silvers, I have discovered. I wish all paints flowed with the consistency, coverage, and vibrancy that this silver does. The models are older, and come from older manufacturing processes. This meant many details had to be painted in, or approximated, the casts of the faces are wonky, and all sorts of fun things. Still looks nice from three feet away. After a year off painting I am a bit rusty. Lines aren't as straight as I'd like, I had to do way more touch ups and do-overs than I am used to, and I mistakenly didn't thin the blue shade with glaze medium as I used to always do. This made the blue darkness very harsh and wouldn't flow how I want over the metals. Ho hum, learn for the next time. Final note: one morning I found that one of the fuzzy denizens of the house wandered onto the paint table and bit in half both the blue guys' lance blades after I painted them. I did some quick repair and a hiding paint job, but you'll probably still see the marks!

Up next I'll be breaking out the airbrush for the horses. I'm excited to be in the final stages and am looking forward to getting the finished Silver Helms posed for a proper photo. Enjoy the hobby.

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Looking great! You gonna do some nice horse patterns for variation?

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The horses will definitely have some sort of unique designs. They actually do have broad open cloth areas that take to that. I think I'll give the horses differing socks, spots, and such as well for interest. Good idea, Gwyn.

   
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The five horses are in varying states of progress, with one completed. I got into a groove painting this horse and I kept with a focus on it until it was done.


Its Silver Helm was then affixed. I need to straighten the black line on the banner, so try to ignore that for now.


The banners are a mix of what I have access to laying about. Some are poor quality images from the Uniforms & Heraldry of the High Elves book. Others are items I purchased from Flags of War that fit the High Elf or Wood Elf themes. I used the old print and glue to aluminum foil trick (see below), then wrapped it around the lance shaft, glued the banner sides to each other, and finally shaped the banner.


Finally, I've been tinkering with rebasing the White Lion Chariot. It's on that horrible oversized 95mm x 120mm oval base. I'm using a 25mm square standard, but the chariot looks a little cramped on a 50mm x 100mm base. I am considering a 60mm x 120mm base instead, image reference below, but I have not put saw blade to HDF board yet. Going a little larger than 50mm x 100mm is not a problem, it just can't be smaller.


Comments and criticism always welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

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60x120 looks best easily.
I also love that the horse isn't white, you always see these guys on only white horses, they look so interesting on the grey.

... I'm dating a horse girl, I should be know actual coat names by now xD

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A second Silver Helm complete. I really am rusty at this - I struggle to paint a straight line! It will hopefully come back to me. Won't be noticeable on the tabletop, at least. I used the Citadel Contrast Gor-Grunta Fur to get the horse color, but then I needed to smooth out and add highlight to the top of the horses' back. Contrast paints don't seem to take well to paint additions - it really doesn't blend in with the rest on closer inspection. Again, likely not noticeable on the tabletop or shelf so ya gotta let go at some point.


Hey, thanks for the comment and base size recommendation, Gwyn. I think I will go for the 60x120 base for the chariot. Regarding the horse coats - I have no idea if the grey horse is an actual type that can occur. After limited research, I did determine that this second horse is roughly a "sooty chestnut/bay" coat. In the old Warhammer lore, the steeds of Ulthuan are mostly white, fitting with the bright, shining aesthetic of the High Elves. It's more those horses that they brought with them to the main land and then abandoned (also resulting in the Wood Elves that stayed on the mainland) that tend to have more earthy coats. The last three horses will be white variants and I'll work on them as a batch.

Comments and criticism welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

   
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I rememmber these guys, for when i first got into the hobby. silverhelms, dragon riders and the lion chariet was my dream models, nice to see someone applying 2021 painting knowlage to 15-20 year old models.

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Hello FrozenDwarf! High Elves have also been my hobby dream models. I have fond memories of a much younger me flipping through the only thing I owned, an old High Elves army book, wondering if I'd ever get an army made. On the note of White Lion Chariots, I rebased mine from the terrible oval to a 60mm x 120mm rectangle. Huzzah!


A third Silver Helm finished. The final blue one, and this one likes fire. While exploring horse coats I found some artistic fantasy works with a white horse with reddish hair and socks, so I gave it a try as it fit the rider. I also tried some freehand on the fabric draped under the saddle. It's meant to be an icon of a flame, the other side has the same. Love it, hate it, you decide. Two more to go, both white horses with green bits.



As always, comments and criticisms welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

   
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I'm glad you are able to build up your dream army so beautifully, CaptainWaffle.

   
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Thanks for the comment, Syro. It's been an enjoyable and relaxing way to spend some free time over the past few years. I don't plan on stopping anytime soon.

The final two Silver Helms, one being the "High Helm" of the unit, complete. I discovered that if I paint the edges, including a bit onto the back, of the banners black before wrapping them around the poles then the border lines that hide imperfections come out much better. I also discovered that I'm stretching the limits of my only camera unit: my phone.


Now that the Silver Helms are complete (for now, I have the bits for five more for sometime in the future), I set up the light box for the glamour shots. Here they are: Silver Helms in all their varying focus glory! Perhaps I should ask for a more suitable camera for Christmas or something.





Those readers with a keen eye will note that the models are staggered on the movement tray. Who knew that the riders' legs would bump into each other on 25mmx50mm bases? I know who, all those rank-and-file players that have experienced this long before I did today. Ho hum, I'll have to be more mindful about how I place the miniatures on bases in the future.

The Silver Helms were the last unit I wanted to fill out a basic 1,000 point High Elves army under the Warhammer Armies Project Unofficial 9th Edition rules. I'm not certain when, or if, I'd ever field them, as I no longer have others able/available to actually throw dice with. Out of curiosity I threw all my painted High Elves into a Battlescribe roster and discovered that the bunch can easily break 3,000 points. I never intended that, and it won't stop me from painting more. With all this in mind, I took some army/collection images (again, on my poor phone camera). I couldn't use the light box, it's only useful for small model counts:


However, a bit of white project board as a backdrop and we have something suitable:



Ah, all those models of varying color coherency, camera focus, and base shapes. What do you think the stats of the Mod Podge are? Up next: Swordmasters of Hoeth. Primed and airbrushed silver... so they're basically done already, right?


Comments and criticism always welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

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Wow, amazing stuff, love your silverhelms, the banners in particular are just wonderful. The army shot looks excellent too. Can't wait to see more.

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Hey Olthannon, thank you very much! I enjoy lurking your thread as well.

I began to batch paint the Swordmasters of Hoeth, but after getting a bit into it I figured I should take a closer look at their lore so I could paint them something fitting. Turns out that those samey units that are featured in most armies don't fit the lore at all. Swordmasters are highly individualistic and they join to battle in groups based on the area they are currently in when the call comes. They are seekers of lore, secrets, and opportunities to test and hone their martial prowess. As such, they shouldn't be painted similar even within a unit. In fact, they are known to be flamboyant in their aesthetics. Their armor and swords are forged uniquely for each individual, so no two will look alike.

So, I gave it a go on one of the ten models. I must have repainted him three times until I got something that isn't too gaudy or too simple. You can be the judge for yourself. Nine more to go, and hopefully I'll find a way to batch paint them while keeping them different enough to have individual personality.



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The host is looking great CaptainWaffle! The variety of the silver helms is really cool, but they still maintain a cohesive look. It’s definitely a theme to carry on with the Sword Masters, maybe adding freehand symbols to each of their swords?

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Thank you very much, gobert! I might do some freehand on the swords, but I'm currently leaning towards no since they would look strange next to the unit champion's sword. It has raised Elvish runes as part of the sword blade.

I think I might not post enough on everyone else's hobby logs. I tend to just lurk a lot. One of those logs that I grace with my lurking is yours, gobert. You keep up the nice work!

A little-more-than-one-week hobby update. The Swordmasters of Hoeth are coming along. I average about an hour a night, so all the details and colors are taking their time. At first I was concerned that all the colors made the unit too dissonant, but after getting most of the gold on and keeping the gold placement unified across the miniatures I think they stand together really well. Still plenty to do on them.


I've also been bouncing between the Swordmasters and the next painting project, just to keep sane from painting all those metallic details. This will be a kit-bashed High Elf Lord on Dragon that is actually a kit-bashed Dragonlord Imrik. I have the later lord/wizard on dragon kit, but I never liked how its wings are in a gliding pose when combined with a lord. I think it works for a wizard, so I'll use that kit for that at a later time. For this project, some time ago I got an ebay rescue that was labeled "wood elf lord on forest dragon" for dirt cheap. Whoever had it attempted to combine an old Wood Elf horse lord with Imrik's dragon, and used a lot of epoxy glue and some sort of brown modelling putty to smash things together. It was a struggle of scraping, cutting, drilling, prying, and so on to get it apart.


Eventually, I got it all in bits, ready for some mold line cleaning and gluing together. I don't think it's all of Imrik's dragon bits, but most are there and enough to complete a dragon. Of course, I don't have an actual Imrik model, and the going price for such is insane. I hobby on a small budget - a purchase is out of the question. So I have to kit-bash that. To do so, I took the lord on dragon bits from that kit and an extra head from the mounted/foot High Elf wizard kit. I think the combination will approximate Imrik's look well. I'll have to create a saddle for the lord to sit on the dragon, too. I'll also cut a larger base from HDF that is appropriate for a dragon.


Steady as she goes. Comments and criticism welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

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Nice work on the swordmasters, good luck with the not-Imrik. Looks like most of the dragon is there. My Imrik is sat patiently waiting for me to start work on my Asur. One day!

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I like what you've done with the Swordmasters and impressed with your keeping them true to their lore. In many ways, they sound like the Greek heroes of the Iliad and Odyssey- armed and armored in similar fashion but entirely individualistic so as to stand out and be approached only by other heroes to fight.

Except the Myrmiddons- basic black is so boring!

Very nice work and I really like the basing.

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The sword masters are looking great. The Metallics being the same really help tie them together I think. For the freehand you could maybe just do one symbol to still allow the champion to stand out?

Great work rescuing the dragon, its funny how someone would go to the lengths of converting so extensively and then leave mould lines visible. Still, it got you a cheap dragon!

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Olthannon, I'll keep an eye on your hobby posting for that Imrik! Thank you for the kind words. Same to you as well, Meer_Cat and gobert. I think there is something very interesting about a group of very-much-so individuals that can, at a single call, stand next to each other and trust in what they can do. Hopefully some sense of that was captured in this group.

Gobert, I really played around with symbols on the swords, and I really like your idea. The trouble I arrived at was twofold. First, I don't know what to paint - or even if I should - the Elvish runes on the leader's sword. Since I don't know what to do about that I don't know what to do about all the other blades. Second, I really burned out on the metalics and wanted this unit done. There's only so many flakes, bouncing between water jars, soaping brushes between everything that I can take, and this unit did it. It turned out above tabletop standard, though, and I'm happy with where it's at. If, at a later date, something strikes me about those Elvish runes on the blades, I'll revisit these.


Fun fact: Army Painter apparently uses finer sawdust (I assume it's sawdust) in its "Grass Green" basing. The tub I've been using for many years was getting low (as-in, halfway), so I picked up a new one. On the left is the new one, the right the many-years-old. One of the Swordmasters has the old stuff, the rest the new. I don't think it's readily apparent, but if you look for it you'll see it.


Next on the table, the High Elf Lord on Dragon, A.K.A., Not-Imrik on Not-Minaithnir. The ebay salvage had only one hand and one foot/leg that actually belong to Minaithnir. It came with both hands and feet of the regular, older dragon kit. So, I used the old hands and feet with Minaithnir's tail and head. A great deal of putty work was involved, especially for the saddle. I'm no sculptor, but I gave that saddle a try and I am "OK" with it. Thankfully, it will be almost entirely covered by the rider. Multiple base sizes were tested, and it turns out that my 120mm x 60mm custom chariot base works best. One was cut, some putty work around the feet to secure it in place added, and it's primed and ready to go.


Minaithnir will be painted in his white/blue lore colors. Imrik has had various looks, but all featured mostly white with some silver and blue, a small amount of gold, and red gemstones. That'll be the plan. Thanks for looking. Comments and criticism welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

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Sorry you burnt out on the swordmasters, fwiw, they look great! The silvers you get are so smooth. Can’t wait to see how not-Imrik turns out

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Great work on those Swordmasters! Wonderful regiment. That was my problem as well, eventually hit that limit.

Can't wait to see the not-Imrik painted!

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I can't take too much credit on the smooth silvers, gobert. That's all Vallejo Model Air Silver. I based the models with it, and any silver touch ups or highlights were also done with it. It's the best silver paint I've ever used, and it's very bright, perfect for High Elves.

Thanks again, Olthannon. Your wish is granted. Here's Not-Imrik prepared to ride Not-Minaithnir. The white alone took as much time as painting everything else. It's a little rough in parts. I'll touch things up when it's mounted on the dragon.


Now I can focus on the dragon. That will be lots of airbrush work and Contrast paints for the scales. Enjoy the hobby.

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That white is glorious, great job on the folds and flaps!

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Thank you, Gwyn! I think it looks a little comical with the lack of blending. Then again, not everything will blend in reality, especially with hard folds. I think my painting style is a bit "comical" or "cartoony" anyway, so I won't sweat it.

Small update on the big dragon. The basic plan has been to airbrush the white skin, then use contrast paint (Talassar Blue) for the scales, clean up the edges between the scales and skin, then pick out details. After the scales dried I decided the sharp jump between the white skin and the blue scales was too much, but I didn't want to dull down the scales a lot or change their color. Color transitions were tested, such as oranges and purples from the scales. None of them were desirable. Note: these images were auto-adjusted with darker/more contrast when uploading to Dakka. The true color is a little brighter, but not as bright as what my phone camera picked up.


From a distance the colors look OKish, but closer they are terrible. It begins to look like a neon party. Through these tests I realized the problem wasn't a lack of stark color, but rather the dragon as a whole was just a big blob of bluish cool white that was dull to look at.


It's a clean white, for sure, but just dull on a large model. I have little experience with warm whites. After some research, I mixed a sandy color with a light gray to get a slightly warm/brown/yellow grayish white color and airbrushed that into the shadows. This required me to airbrush the white base and highlight again with white. So, naturally, I repainted the entire model. Again, the color is more pronounced in person. I am at the mercy of my phone camera.


Was it worth it? It looks warmer to me. Whatever the case, it's what I'm going with. Comments and criticism always welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

   
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Wow, that white on the banner is obscenely good! Great work.

The dragon is looking fantastic as well, the blue of the scales is a real shock of colour. I think with the rider and the base painted it'll all mesh together wonderfully.

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That blue is really cool! I think the problem is that the white is a bit flat still. I reckon adding more shadows will help loads. I’d probably go with blending blue towards the white, as though as his skin gets older it turns to scales, if you’re after a bit more warmth, then perhaps a bone colour instead of white?

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The blue certainly is striking over the white undercoat. Thankfully, it seems to match the brighter blue that nearly every one of my High Elves has. gobert, I did just that with shadows. I emphasized the white highlights as well. One evening I tried many scale-to-skin transitions, but nothing worked for me and I eventually went with the sudden transition. Maybe that does work, maybe it's just grown on me after looking at this model for a while. Also, when ho-humming about the colors I completely forgot I'd be painting the horns, spikes, and such a bone color. Of course that would bring the warmth back to the model in the end! At least one of our heads was on task, and it wasn't mine.

Thank you, Olthannon. Here's Not-Imrik attached and Not-Minaithnir based. You can decide if it meshes! When I get a batch of models done I'll get the light box together for a proper capture. For now, a brown hobby foam sheet will do. Both images are a bit washed out from the light, but only the second is "color corrected" so the wing webbing is more visible. Also, white is really difficult to capture with a goofy phone camera.



How did I get from where it was a few days ago to this in so short a time? The young-un is spending the weekend with grandparents, and after a morning of hiking the lovely wife and I just wanted to sit on the couch. I re-purposed a wood tray into a simple mobile paint station and painted for at least six hours straight. That's the longest I've painted in quite a while. Combine that with my steady, hour or two of painting each night and the project is done.

Up next is something other than High Elves. I'm burned out of painting highly detailed metals and white. Also, my main goal is to get other forces up to at least 1,500 points worth painted. The next targets are Wood Elves, which are a mix of Games Workshop and out-of-print but dirt-cheap Runewars "Latari Elf" models, and Orcs & Goblins, which are a mix of Games Workshop, Oathmark (North Star Military Figures), MOM Miniatures, and probably other things. It's what I have found over the years on ebay that I like and are in my budget (i.e. cheap). I have a lot of models for both these forces waiting to be painted. It's amazing what you can find if you are patient and keep looking.

To start, I'll probably paint some single characters from each. Simple ones to get a feel. I want the Wood Elves to be Elves with a lot of trees. I want the Orcs and Goblins to be some comical Orcs (usually on boars) and many comical Goblins riding spiders and wolves and such, backed up by foot units. If you readers have a preference let me know. I don't have a hard army list that I want to work from, and I most likely have the models for any suggestion. I build armies from what I have painted, and I paint things I find fun and interesting.

Comments and criticism always welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

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Not-Imrik came out great! A child free weekend where the wife lets you paint is pretty great. You certainly made good use of it. The blue did settle in once the rest of the mini was done. Great job!

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Absolutely superb work, hope you are proud of it! Looks like a centerpiece mini should look!

Shows what a weekend to relax and paint can do eh?

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Thanks a bunch you two! It was a very relaxing weekend. I took it easy on the hobby front the last week and a half. I was going to work on a bunch of Wood Elves but I was so worn out of painting elves that I decided to work on silly goblins instead. Here are two shamans (one GW and one from MOM Miniatures) and a sort of re-based goblin boss that I painted years ago.


The MOM Miniatures goblin is a little chunkier, and more angled, but is roughly the same size as the rest of the goblins and has an interesting 70s or 80s medieval fantasy feel. I wonder why only the left hand has nails, but that's how it was sculpted. The other two are GW from the old Battle for Skull Pass set. I didn't touch up the boss at all. He refused to be removed from the round base he is on, so I stuck it onto a square base and used my patented "Milliput the edges to make a rough small hill" method. At least it gives the guy some stature. The shaman is newly painted. I have memories of looking around a brick and mortar shop in my area some 10 years ago, a few years before it closed, and finding a dusty, unopened, Battle for Skull Pass set on a top shelf priced at $30. I've had the whole thing ever since. It's nice to work on them.

I also built 30 goblin spider riders. I think I'll paint those next. Comments and criticism always welcome. Enjoy the hobby.

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