Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Dreadball All Stars KS now live

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**lord_blackfang**

The Chira feels pretty big

But I doubt Mantic has any test shots, I don't think Mantic did test shots in their life, they just send the first draft to production and yolo. Archon will make sure the sprue is at least physically castable but Mantic will just order their 5000 units blind and what happens happens.

**lord_blackfang**

But I feel like if the delay was really a last minute surprise for Mantic, they would have sent out the rulebook pdf and the STLs by now. They haven't done the faction guides they promised 2 months ago either. I'm guessing they've known since very shortly after that update, so they didn't bother wasting the manpower.

**lord_blackfang**

Yea I know it's nothing, it's just how dog gak their communication is.

Last word was shipping in second half of May, they probably knew before June that shipping in second half of May wasn't going to happen?

This sort of thing makes one feel like they don't even remember Warpath exists until their KS notifications blow up with update requests.

**lord_blackfang**

Ha ha it could be. Despite being a massive project (at least 9 distinct sprues.... that's more than everything else by Mantic combined gets in a year) it seems to be the red-headed stepchild somehow.

**lord_blackfang**

There are moments I regret choosing Warpath over AC... it was a pretty cringe move considering I'm a Warcradle volunteer... but I'm a sucker for Mantic's sci-fi universe and at the time it looked like Warpath would have all 8 factions out by the time AC had 3. Pretty sure it was also before we knew James Hewitt would head AC.

**lord_blackfang**

There was never any danger of it being bloated, I've never seen a bloated Mantic game! Unit balance, on the other hand... is more an afterthought anywhere outside KoW.

**lord_blackfang**

mattl wrote:
AFAIK Mantic bought his River Horse Games company last year and he joined Mantic as a result.

And they were always tight to begin with, he built KoW too and headed it for the first two editions.

**lord_blackfang**

I somewhat feel they didn't scale up the printed vehicles to match the plastics. That won't be a problem for me since I got the STLs.

**lord_blackfang**

Tabletop_Magpie wrote:
That push-a-button meme, but it says:

"update the Epic Warpath KS"

and

"Send another HALO email"

Copy pasted straight to KS comments

**lord_blackfang**

mattl wrote:
Still no update?

From the discords, today:

As soon as our KS manager is back from his holiday. That is likely to be tomorrow onwards

**lord_blackfang**

Billicus wrote:
The fact they don't think it's worth taking five minutes to log in to the kickstarter and leave a comment saying that, in lieu of an actual update, is really very damning.

They haven't even unpinned the comment announcing the update that came a month ago.

**lord_blackfang**

Just got a new HALO email, btw.

**lord_blackfang**

Tabletop_Magpie wrote:
1 faction preview every 2 weeks would buy them 4 months of good graces.

You have a way with words that bears repeating

lord_blackfang
Imagine if instead of radio silence we had 1 faction focus - that were promised 2 months ago - every 2 weeks. You'd still have 2 months of grace left over right now.

Cleric
We have a whole marketing schedule planned for EWP once it gets closer to retail release. As for the KS, an update will be out later today, and that will have more than enough to keep you all busy until you get your pledges in the post.

**lord_blackfang**

It does indeed.

There's also a few unit profiles hidden in there that weren't in the KS

There's also this

https://www.myminifactory.com/frontier/epic-warpath-the-battle-for-phrovox-4447

**lord_blackfang**

Pacific wrote:
That starter set looks good and will help the reach of the game.

One of the complaints I have read about the rulebook is the lack of unit photos or even art next to each entry, which makes identification difficult especially for newcomers . Apparently the 'full' rulebook will include this, although you would like to think they will update the downloadable free one eventually.

The army list section is a bit dry.

**lord_blackfang**

I bet the big ones are mdf

I'm printing my own for all units so I can have the same magnet holes I always use

**lord_blackfang**

Oh nice, at 70€ a pop I can easily pick up the factions I regret not picking up in the KS (I have the expansion STL megapack)

**lord_blackfang**

Pacific wrote:
Scale wise.. I think a lot of the comments are maybe from people new to gaming at that scale? Epic and other small scale wargames are generally all over the place. Even 28mm scale often is, the long-running joke of how 10 marines would fit in a Rhino etc.

But why not make it look correct, when it's just a few mm up or down? It's the one scale where it really costs nothing to do it right.

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Pacific wrote:
Mine has what I ordered (core set plus an extra faction) but not specifically which one. I have no idea, I think it was Plague and Forge Fathers haha

Maybe you didn't lock it in?

Mine says

Lieutenant Pledge - ( Factions - Enforcers, Enforcers, Enforcers, Veer-Myn, Veer-Myn, Nameless, Marauders, Forge Fathers, Languages - English, English, English, English)

**lord_blackfang**

Ahtman wrote:
The KS didn't have a stand alone two player starter the closest was the Lieutenant Pledge where you picked two army boxes and included rules and dice so I am curious what the upcoming official starter set includes.

Looks like exactly that (with Plague and Enforcers) minus the free terrain sprues.

**lord_blackfang**

Christ I would use D3-1 for the first two and D3 for blues.

**lord_blackfang**

Nice stuff

GCPS is the one I regret not picking up, gonna grab it at retail

Seems it's about time to start worrying if they know how do to EU shipping properly on large orders

**lord_blackfang**

I think I got Veermyn, Nameless, Marauders and Forge Fathers

**lord_blackfang**

Sorry I still have PTSD from a UK kickstarter that also said EU shipping is taken care of and then just YOLO'd a 300€ package into regular mail with no paperwork and hoped I'd be able to convince customs on my end that it's just a really bulky postcard.

**lord_blackfang**

HYPEEE

I have one of the biggest pledges (12 factions I think) so probably last out the door, but I'm away on vacation for the first half of August anyway

**lord_blackfang**

The tragic part is I still have 3-4 Warpath factions from the 28mm Kickstarter that I never even opened...

**lord_blackfang**

mattl wrote:
People are starting to receive their Epic Warpath stuff.

Are they? All I'm seeing are paintjobs of the sample STLs from the upcoming MMF campaign.

**lord_blackfang**

The Veermyn tank is comically and tragically small, innit, especially compared to how they bloated up the Asterian Chira. Prime candidate to be replaced entirely with 3d prints at 130% or so.

**lord_blackfang**

They also have... 10 days left to get it to you across the ocean, and two of the factions aren't even in the warehouse yet.

Shame they can't sort backers by vote and leave the mad hat brigade with the consequences of their own actions eh.

**lord_blackfang**

So weird that they made the Tunneler non-extendable :(

**lord_blackfang**

Werkrobotwerk wrote:

Assemble two bodies, arrange them back to back, put the drills on one front side, and the back cover on the other and you're done.

Nice!