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deano2099 wrote:
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But anyways, it's not like it would be too hard to substitute any of those minis for generic ones.

That still leaves it in a weird no-mans-land of appeal though. GW games aren't good enough to pick over any other board game, with the exception that the models are great, lots of fun to paint, and look amazing on the table. The only thing Cursed City has going for it over, for example, Descent, is that it looks amazing. Because of the GW models.

Yes I guess I could use my Descent models to play this but at that point... well, why not just play Descent? It's better.

And then the other reason people buy GW board games is because they want the models anyway, and the game is a bonus (or not even that, just thrown away) in which case, again, no appeal to those folks with this game.


Which version of Descent are you comparing CC to? The 1st which is ancient and has lots of flaws, the 2nd that is IMO the best version but is out of print (and ironically all of the villian leaders have to be bought seperately), or the 3rd that can't be played without an app (and is therefore an automatic no play for many)?

It's fine of course for you to prefer to play another game, but it's not an either or situation. It's not like it's a straight choice between buying a CC or Descent expansion. For people who enjoy CC, more official content is obviously a good thing.

Again fine for you to disagree, but FWIW specific examples of what CC does better than 2nd edition Descent IMO other than production values:
Destiny dice mechanic vs custom dice;
Killing enemies gives you rewards;
More interesting setting and lore;
Automated selection of enemies that rotates quickly.


   
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CC has good combat, but christ it's set up so you need to play the same mission dozens of times to get anywhere.

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I wonder if any of the Underworlds teams will be co opted into Underworlds?



The new undead team would be great to introduce heavier armored skeletons, as well as wight king.
And the electric vampire could easily be another boss.

Plus GW wouldn't have to put in much effort for the expansion
   
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A card expansion which let you add warbands to CC would be a really fun idea.
   
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That's a great idea, the cards that added hero's and villians to silver tower and shadows over hammerhal where great.

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bobthe4th wrote:
deano2099 wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:


But anyways, it's not like it would be too hard to substitute any of those minis for generic ones.

That still leaves it in a weird no-mans-land of appeal though. GW games aren't good enough to pick over any other board game, with the exception that the models are great, lots of fun to paint, and look amazing on the table. The only thing Cursed City has going for it over, for example, Descent, is that it looks amazing. Because of the GW models.

Yes I guess I could use my Descent models to play this but at that point... well, why not just play Descent? It's better.

And then the other reason people buy GW board games is because they want the models anyway, and the game is a bonus (or not even that, just thrown away) in which case, again, no appeal to those folks with this game.


Which version of Descent are you comparing CC to? The 1st which is ancient and has lots of flaws, the 2nd that is IMO the best version but is out of print (and ironically all of the villian leaders have to be bought seperately), or the 3rd that can't be played without an app (and is therefore an automatic no play for many)?

It's fine of course for you to prefer to play another game, but it's not an either or situation. It's not like it's a straight choice between buying a CC or Descent expansion. For people who enjoy CC, more official content is obviously a good thing.

Mix of 2 and 3 - 2e because that's where I'd get my bats from, 3e because that's in a box waiting to be painted and played.

I agree it's not either/or. I also agree CC is a good game. It's just if you take the minis out, it's not just Descent, I could name many, many other dungeon crawlers than are better and if we sat down and had a chat about exactly what you do and don't like in games I could probably find you one you'd like more and it'd be cheaper than this expansion with the minis. There's a good chance you'd be able to get it and every expansion ever made for it for the price of this expansion with the minis!

In a weird way it sort of is a straight choice too, if I want to pick this up it probably won't be available that long, albeit I can put off getting the models longer if I wanted. But also the Kingdom Death expansions are up for pre-order again for the first time in years for a few more days. Probably can't afford both. And the fact I could buy three expansions for Kingdom Death Monster for the cost of buying this with the models puts stuff into stark perspective. When you're three times the cost of the most boutique, frankly overpriced, expansions currently in the board game world....

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Since the Blackstone Fortress traitor captain and Ogryn were included in the recent Kill Team box, I am now looking for just the cards and other bits from the BF:TC expansion. Exactly what this CC expansion is offering.
So, I see what GW is trying to do, after people whinged about the price of the BF sets, and that people just bought them for the models. This CC release gets around that.

£30 though? Not cool, GW.
Even if these CC models are released as UW or Warcry kits, the expansion is a huge price for what you get.

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There was nothing to stop GW from releasing those exclusive Blackstone Fortress models separately close to the expansion releases (and advertise that fact for a change) and take pressure off people who genuinely bought the expansions to expand their game, and not just for the miniatures. Except, of course, for the calculation that selling exclusive models in overpriced expansions would yield the highest profit.

Had GW been so inclined, there wouldn't have been a need for people to buy useless paper to get the miniatures, or Warhammer Quest players missing out because because of the needless competition.

Nightwars isn't any different. It's not GW trying to do anybody any favors. They aren't releasing a paper only expansion to spare some people from buying the same models twice. They want the boost to overpriced clampack character sales. Any benefit to any subsection of GW's customers is entirely unintended.

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This month’s Collectors Coin is WHQ themed.

And the monthly free model is from CC. So…erm….yay?

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they show a pic of a selection of minis from the game, but underneath say mini may differ from those shows

so skellybob i'd expect (although if i can get the cool vamp hanging off the pillar, or an undead ogre all the better)

 
   
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This months free model offer is amazing if they have done a run of the full sprue sets as implied by the pic. They have used the 'may be different to pictured' get out before but that was usually more because the sprue contained multiple models and you could get any one rather then saying you won't get the pictured one.

Seems they are already sliding on the 'specific model' sprues they introduced 2 months ago.
   
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Id be utterly amazed if the free model is anything other than the zombies or skeletons from the box set. No way will they be offering any of the named characters or large monsters.

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I’ll bite. Who’s offering free models?

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 privateer4hire wrote:
I’ll bite. Who’s offering free models?

GW is - A random Cursed City miniature is the upcoming Miniature of the Month (Return to Ulfenkarn With October’s Cursed City Coin and Miniature of the Month).


Tallonian4th wrote:
Seems they are already sliding on the 'specific model' sprues they introduced 2 months ago.
Or this was meant to be out before those...

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 DaveC wrote:
£30 €40 $50 for Night Wars


Do you have the AU$ price for it, Dave?

   
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If they are just doing the Cursed City sprues, it would be a great way of getting a second Glaurio ven Alten to turn into a RT/Inquisitor.

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For anyone who has all the coins that pair with said models.
Are we missing any of the earlier numbers in the set, since they started coming out of order.

The point when the specific sprues started coming for the free model, any coin coming that’s numbered after that, is all down the individual sprue route as that’s the new plan for it.

But we might still be missing a few numbers from it right? I’ve not kept up, early on I know we had missed out on a few numbers, but we might have gotten back round to those since..
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 privateer4hire wrote:
I’ll bite. Who’s offering free models?

GW is - A random Cursed City miniature is the upcoming Miniature of the Month (Return to Ulfenkarn With October’s Cursed City Coin and Miniature of the Month).


Tallonian4th wrote:
Seems they are already sliding on the 'specific model' sprues they introduced 2 months ago.
Or this was meant to be out before those...


Thank you. Hadn’t seen that.

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Danny76 wrote:
For anyone who has all the coins that pair with said models.
Are we missing any of the earlier numbers in the set, since they started coming out of order.

The point when the specific sprues started coming for the free model, any coin coming that’s numbered after that, is all down the individual sprue route as that’s the new plan for it.

But we might still be missing a few numbers from it right? I’ve not kept up, early on I know we had missed out on a few numbers, but we might have gotten back round to those since..


I think the only coin that got missed was the Craftworld Eldar. Those appeared on Ebay being sold by 1 store by the boxload along with a bunch of forgeworld models.

It appears it was a theft from the warehouse at around the same time GW had had a flood of sewage from a local pipe failure. My guess is a bunch of contaminated or potentially contaminated stock was set for disposal and a few people decided to pinch a chunk of it and flog it. I've no idea what happened after that, the ebay store was at the time up for a good length of time.

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 Azazelx wrote:
 DaveC wrote:
£30 €40 $50 for Night Wars


Do you have the AU$ price for it, Dave?


Should be $84
   
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Well right now the price is $0, as this just came through from one of the stores I use:

Gap Games wrote:We have just been informed by Games Workshop Australia that the Nightwars Expansion pre-order and release will be delayed until sometime prior to X-MASS 2022.


Of course, I may have an alternative...

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Related to next month being Cursed City mini of the month.

Went into my local GW today and asked the redshirt exactly what mini was up for grabs. Turns out it's all of them. According to him, each GW has been sent 1 CC box and is doling out the minis on a first come first serve basis, all the way from Radukar down to the skeleton cat markers. The 8th is when they are available.

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Is it worth pointing out that 30GBP=30USD these days?

 
   
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Is it worth pointing out that 30GBP=30USD these days?


Certainly is. But given in the UK the past 30 odd years if an American product has an RRP of $400 we have been charged £400 it probably makes no difference. It is a two way street that relevant companies and retailers never want to travel down, it is not like shipping, wages etc have also gotten cheaper.

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Is it worth pointing out that 30GBP=30USD these days?


Not where GW is concerned.

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It's good for rousing rabble, though. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to find a free army at the bottom of the local harbor.

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Doubt it’ll sway, but the Key to Ulfenkarn preorder bonus is returning, but in a different colour.

Image from a GW Store FB feed, so I can’t say if it’ll be an online bonus as well.
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Half an hour in and Cursed City: Nightwars is No Longer Available Online.

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I usually give GW some leeway...but this is ridiculous. The expansion seems to be sold out everywhere... "how can the same stuff happen to the same guy twice?".

It is acceptable to drop the ball, but to then take the ball, puncture it and bury it deep in the ground seems a bit much.

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