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2019/06/17 10:13:34
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Well, I found the exact tutorial I was looking for (just replace Skeleton Horde with the red, and the red with yellow):
godardc wrote: If you don't have time to paint, or don't want to paint, don't play 40k. As simple as that.
Umm... no it's not.
godardc wrote: Why playing one of the few hobbies you need time to glue and paint your models, which is probably the most important part of the hobby...
As has been said, it's the most important part of the hobby to you. You are not everyone.
godardc wrote: 40k isn't a game but a Hobby, and is explicitly refered as such by GW.
How's that Kool Aid taste?
godardc wrote: Most of us spend more time building and painting than actually gaming. It's not a claim, but a fact.
That which is presented without evidence...
godardc wrote: And for me the most important part is the background, reading the fluff.
None of which requires gluing and painting.
godardc wrote: It is in the other hand, part of the 40k Hobby, whether you like it or not.
What's the "40k hobby" you speak of? Is that part of the miniature hobby, which encompasses all kinds of play styles and preferences, none of which require painting?
Are you new here?
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Is getting into this debate again really necessary? The paints are out, some people are using them, some aren't, surely we can put a lid on it now and all go down the pub.
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2019/06/17 12:25:37
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
My third issue is that while some of the contrasts are very nice (some of the reds, purples, yellows, browns/leathers) many of the others are pretty awful in their coverage and final affect. The metals are dire.
There are metals?
2019/06/17 12:27:12
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
My third issue is that while some of the contrasts are very nice (some of the reds, purples, yellows, browns/leathers) many of the others are pretty awful in their coverage and final affect. The metals are dire.
There are metals?
No. There are no 'metal' Contrast paints.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/06/17 12:34:19
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Sterling191 wrote: They added a few new metallic base paints on the same day.
Yes, but those are not Contrast paints.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/06/17 12:52:40
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Yes I did and I should clarify. The two contrast paints that I have seen frequently used for "metal" blades/axes etc and parts of weapons like bolters, Basilicanum Grey and Black Templar are pretty poor to my eyes at creating the metal effects compared to something like PP Pig Iron (even without a wash). There are currently no metallic contrast paints that I am aware of.
2019/06/17 12:55:52
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
either use the Contrast paints over a metallic base (all the photos I've seen of this look very good) or use them over a grey base and drybrush with silver (not seen or tried this yet, but I've done similar in the past over ordinary paint / washes and it's worked fine. Gives a better dull metal effect than the satin sheen of Contrast over metallic.
2019/06/17 13:43:34
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Yes I did and I should clarify. The two contrast paints that I have seen frequently used for "metal" blades/axes etc and parts of weapons like bolters, Basilicanum Grey and Black Templar are pretty poor to my eyes at creating the metal effects compared to something like PP Pig Iron (even without a wash). There are currently no metallic contrast paints that I am aware of.
Because their not trying to emulate metal effects and no one has claimed that they are in any way 'metallic'.
They are simply a black and grey paint.
And paint is a very generic term, calling contrast Paint is not misleading at all.
Can't help but feel that your really scrapping the barrel trying to find thing to complain about.
2019/06/17 13:48:10
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
I won't be using Contrast for everything, but knocking out those projects that have been on the backburner a while? Absolutely.
This squad maybe took a couple of hours, but would have been 3 times longer if using the usual paint/wash/2 highlights I'd typically do for tabletop.
2019/06/17 13:57:23
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
bullyboy wrote: I won't be using Contrast for everything, but knocking out those projects that have been on the backburner a while? Absolutely.
This is my plan. I have something of an obsession with amassing detachments of as many disparate factions as I can just for the fun from a hobby project perspective, but I inevitably wind up getting swamped. I think in certain contexts the contrast range will help me out there.
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
2019/06/17 14:11:15
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Albertorius wrote: I picked up four colors (mainly because the ravenous hordes apparently got there before, so...): black, orange, yellow and flesh, and a can of primer. And I've been experimenting a bit (Disclaimer: I only have a single, busted up brush from ages ago. Control is... not the best >_>:
First I painted a couple of Conan picts, which were primed a long time ago with Army Painter flesh and to which I overprimed a zenital light with Vallejo bone primer:
Spoiler:
I've only done the flesh of the second one, but I like it much better:
What colours did you use for this one's flesh?
That one was originally primed with Army Painter's flesh spray primer, and I did a zenital light with the new Contrast bone spray. After that it just have a layer of Contrast Gilliman Flesh.
2019/06/17 15:31:59
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
This video is pretty good. He does a basic job with just the contrast paints, then adds on highlights on top to get it to a much higher level. I think it looks pretty good with just the contrast, though it still takes careful application.
2019/06/17 16:20:03
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Alpharius wrote: I'm thinking Contrast paint is going to be a godsend in getting those big boardgame pledges painted up - at least it will be for me!
Shadows of Brimstone enemies will be a lot easier to paint...
Same here. I'll use my paints wherever they may come in handy, but for the big, advertised purpose of Contrast paints I'll use them for models in the category "will look cooler painted, but don't value them enough to put real effort in".
PVC stuff like Song of Ice and Fire, maybe Star Wars Legion. Stormtroopers alone might be worth looking into the white paint.
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Why is the rum always gone?
2019/06/17 16:58:44
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
The paints: Snakebite Leather and Wyldwood on basecoats of Fulgrim Pink, Emperor's Children and Yriel Yellow.
Really just a test of how some bright colors alter the look of the Contrast paints that go over them. I like the way the light pink works with both Snakebite Leather and Wyldwood.. The dark pink and yellow are pretty intense and have a pretty big effect on Snakebite Leather, peeking through quite a bit. I'll have some use for that, I think.
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2019/06/17 18:26:00
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Got myself some finally and painted bloodletter in no time as far as I plan with contrast(weapon handle, eyes and the dots in skin with non-contrast). Makes painting large units of these breeze. Also worked on daemonette and pink horror.
Would have killed for these when I started and even now can def see myself using these as part of toolbox I have.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2019/06/17 18:34:45
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Corvus Black is fantastic...buuuuuuuut it doesn't really go over Grey Seer or Corax White very well. Apply it over a black or dark grey spray and you'll be fine though!
It feels kind of watered down from the outset, I've been testing it on a metal Nazgul for my brother and it's definitely something that could change up the way I paint black. It has a bit of transparency to it when watered down and makes for a nice tomb grey robe.
2019/06/17 18:58:18
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
Corvus Black is fantastic...buuuuuuuut it doesn't really go over Grey Seer or Corax White very well. Apply it over a black or dark grey spray and you'll be fine though!
It feels kind of watered down from the outset, I've been testing it on a metal Nazgul for my brother and it's definitely something that could change up the way I paint black. It has a bit of transparency to it when watered down and makes for a nice tomb grey robe.
I was considering getting Corvus Black for my Gloomspite Gitz robes. As a Base paint I'm surprised it has trouble going over a light colored undercoat.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/06/17 19:42:32
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
I was considering getting Corvus Black for my Gloomspite Gitz robes. As a Base paint I'm surprised it has trouble going over a light colored undercoat.
I thought at first it was a bad pot, but I had gotten 3 of them on Saturday. All 3 had the same thing happening despite very heavy shaking.
It's just a bit transparent, as mentioned, but if you apply it over Chaos Black spray or Mechanicus Standard Grey spray it looks great.
2019/06/17 19:45:29
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
I find Abaddon Black to be rubbish also. Of all the colors, black is an odd one to get wrong.
Live update: 29 Plaguebearers undercoated and basecoated since lunch. I'll probably spend more time painting bases all careful not to hit the feet, than the minis themselves.
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Kindly spoiler large images.
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2019/06/17 19:51:48
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
An updated version of the Contrast color 'chart' from a few pages back...
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/06/18 06:46:34
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
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2019/06/18 07:31:57
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
But but but that means GW have produced something different and good???
That can't happen.....what is this witch craft??
The community will never stand for this!
2019/06/18 07:48:56
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, color charts and video pg. 34
I think doing the same with Carroburg Crimson would have come out more like the red ink in the middle than the Army Painter one on the right, but yes, the effect with Contrast is much stronger.
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