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LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement. edit: (I have mixed up English and British here. My bad.)
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
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LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
While Tennant may have been Scottish, he did have to use a British accent during his tenure as the Doctor, and got to speak in his normal accent during a single episode if I recall.
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bs, on both counts. If they chose Idris Elba to play the Doctor and someone stopped watching the show becuase of that, it says more to the small mindedness of the viewer, not the show.
Idris Elba is an amazing actor, but he's just not Dr Who. Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
Get real, you could change it in a heart beat. You get Dame Judi Dench got up there saying she wants to be the Doctor then Blamo! new grls Doctor.
EDIT: For the record I think J Dench would be awesome as the Doctor. Imagine her against the Daleks. The Daleks would run like girly boyz.
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LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
While Tennant may have been Scottish, he did have to use a British accent during his tenure as the Doctor, and got to speak in his normal accent during a single episode if I recall.
What's a "British" accent? You mean a stereotypical Londoner one? Tennant spoke like a Scotsman throughout...
LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
While Tennant may have been Scottish, he did have to use a British accent during his tenure as the Doctor, and got to speak in his normal accent during a single episode if I recall.
What's a "British" accent? You mean a stereotypical Londoner one? Tennant spoke like a Scotsman throughout...
I could understand Tennant, thus not Scottish
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LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
While Tennant may have been Scottish, he did have to use a British accent during his tenure as the Doctor, and got to speak in his normal accent during a single episode if I recall.
What's a "British" accent? You mean a stereotypical Londoner one? Tennant spoke like a Scotsman throughout...
It is a not not-British accent. I.e.not American, not Canadian, Not NZ, Zimbabwean, French, Russian, etc.
LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
Scottish is British, just as Welsh, English, Cornish etc.
LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
Scottish is British, just as Welsh, English, Cornish etc.
Scottish is not English.
Its all English to me.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
The Shadow wrote: We need a Northern Doctor. Like, a REALLY strong Northern accent. That would be fantastic. Northern is best.
Which one? There's the Lancashire, which is really a softer version of the Yorkshire. There's Liverpudlian, there's Geordie... a Geordie or Liverpudlian Doctor would be absolutely hilarious.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
LuciusAR wrote: Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
David Tennant would certainly disagree with this statement.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it bad. Dr Who has always been a white male because that's who they have cast. There is no requirement to keep him such.
Scottish is British, just as Welsh, English, Cornish etc.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
bs, on both counts. If they chose Idris Elba to play the Doctor and someone stopped watching the show becuase of that, it says more to the small mindedness of the viewer, not the show.
Idris Elba is an amazing actor, but he's just not Dr Who. Dr Who's character has always been an eccentric British gentleman and messing with that for the sake of being right-on just would be bad for the whole show.
Dr Who is a white male, you can no more change that than you can make Miss Marple a man or Shaft white.
Dr. Who is whoever they want him to be...and that is the beauty of the character and his many incarnations. The character has to be one of the best designed in fiction; death of the character isn't the end but a random beginning. To say he is of a specific type of person, or race, is to limit him and that is not what the character is about. Yes it takes the right attitude to play the doctor but that is more to the abilities of the actor and not their skin color or genetics.
So, as someone who just recently got into this show a couple of months ago with the 2005 series and now mostly through season 6, anyone else really annoyed with the apparent disconnect of the show with season 5+ and 1-4? 1-4 seemed fairly unified in story, feel, progression, etc. Eccleston to Tennant seemed to have a fairly natural progression of attitude and character while Smith seems to basically start from scratch. While the newer episodes definitely have better production values, it's basically as if the show just started after the Doctor crashes into what's-her-face's back yard. It seems much more serial and much more "fairy tale"-ey than the older series despite being much better produced, but most of all I just can't bring myself to care about the characters as much.
Maybe I'm just crazy or not the target demographic, but I'm just not liking this phase of the show as much as seasons 1-4. I'm hoping Capaldi changes that.
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Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
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Whoa. All those people who were complaining that the role of the 13th Doctor was given to yet another white guy, listen up — Neil Gaiman just revealed that the role was offered to an undisclosed black actor before Peter Capaldi, who turned it down. Hey, at least they tried!
Gaiman revealed this and his thoughts on female Doctors and regeneration limits in a serious of recent Tumblr posts. Here's the important news, beginning with the subject of non-white males playing the Doctor:
"I was rather disappointed that Paterson Joseph didn’t get [the role] last time, although I’ve loved Matt’s Eleven.) And yes, I have no doubt there will be [a black Doctor]. (I know one black actor who was already offered the part of the Doctor, and who turned it down.) Just as there will be a female Doctor."
On how the Doctor could theoretically regenerate past his 13th incarnation:
"Well, [the regeneration limit of 13] was the rule when we had Time Lords running the show. (And they were the ones who gave the Master his extra regenerations.) There aren’t any Time Lords any more… MY OPINION (which is not Canon) is that the regeneration limit is a lot like the speed limit. You can break it, but things get a lot more dangerous if you do. The Time Lords were the traffic cops: they enforced the limit. With them gone, the Doctor can keep regenerating beyond 13, but with consequences."
On Peter Capaldi:
"I think Peter’s a brilliant actor... I can’t wait to see what he does. I’m glad that we’re getting an older Doctor — we’ve had two puppies, it’s time to see someone older. It’ll change the nature of the relationship with Clara in interesting ways, for a start."
And most interestingly, why Capaldi is possibly the best choice to follow Matt Smith:
"And here, for what it’s worth, are my other thoughts: Do I think it’s time to cast a woman as the Doctor? Not yet. Not quite... [f I were show-running (I’m not) I wouldn’t cast a woman as the Doctor yet, and it would absolutely be on my list of things to do in the following regeneration. (I was the one who wrote the line about the Corsair changing gender on regeneration, in “The Doctor’s Wife" after all, and made it canon that Time Lords can absolutely change gender when they regenerate.) Some of that is stuff I’d find hard to articulate, mostly having to do with what kind of Doctor you follow Matt Smith’s Doctor with: someone harder and much older and more dangerous and, yes, male feels right to me, as a storyteller. Where you go after that, ah, that’s a whole new game…"
You know, I kind of agree with him. I'm not sure why, exactly, but somehow it feels like a female or black (or, god forbid, a black female!) Doctor will have more impact after Capaldi than it would after Smith. Maybe because the Doctor has traditionally been an old white dude, so by returning the Doctor to that default the change becomes more meaningful? Maybe? I'm not sure, but with the news that showrunner Stephen Moffat tried to expand the Doctor's forms, I have high hopes for #13.
[Via Doctor Who TV]
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