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Somewhere in south-central England.

In theory, Resin Forge should by now be able to show three business registration numbers. The first from when Mandelbaum set up the company, the second one from after the two new people joined, and the third from after the two new people kicked out Mandelbaum. Though it's possible the third one would not yet have been assigned by Texas.

That is all based on the assumption that the company has been correctly registered. If it has been operating illegally with registration, they of course would not be able to show a reg number at all.

RF have been asked repeatedly to give their reg number, and haven't. You can draw your own conclusions.

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Ferocious Blood Claw




Gran Brettan

From the Texas Taxes website

Report Fraud
For a fair and efficient tax system, it is important to ensure that there is a level playing field for all taxpayers. Everyone has a role to play — whether it is in complying with state tax laws or watching out to ensure everyone is following the same rules. Fraud robs you and it robs Texas.
You can report suspected fraud or criminal activity involving Texas state taxes to the Comptroller’s Criminal Investigations Division several ways:
By phone: Call (800) 531-5441, ext. 3-8707.
By e-mail: Send your concerns to cid@cpa.state.tx.us.
By mail: Write to Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts, Attn: CID, P.O. Box 13232, Austin, Texas 78774.
An online fraud reporting form will be available soon.
Reporting details: Please include as much detail as possible to include the name of the suspected business or individual, the address of the suspected business, the taxpayer number (if known), a short description of the alleged illegal activity, the type of state tax involved (if known), and the date when the suspected activity took place.
You can request to have your identity protected and retain your confidentiality to the extent possible under Texas law.
Note: Suspected cases of federal tax fraud/IRS fraud should be reported to federal authorities.

I'll just leave this here (i'm not saying anyone has committed fraud and i'm sure the Business Registration Number is forthcoming )

EDIT wow can i just say that the Texas Taxes website is a lovely website (much nicer than UK ones) it tells you all sorts, like not paying sales taxes hurts the parks and wildlife

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We dont serve no Mint Julip here !! 
   
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

So far all of the announced / confirmed sales have gone to the same person. Fingers crossed for that guy But considering the scrutiny RF is under and the fact that everybody with an ounce of IQ left will reverse paypal payment at the slightest change of delay should make quite sure at least the early stuff is delivered on time

   
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

 Kilkrazy wrote:
In theory, Resin Forge should by now be able to show three business registration numbers. The first from when Mandelbaum set up the company, the second one from after the two new people joined, and the third from after the two new people kicked out Mandelbaum.

That is all based on the assumption that the company has been correctly registered. If it has been operating illegally with registration, they of course would not be able to show a reg number at all.



They would, even then, still only need ONE registration. When you register an LLC (which is what RF has stated "they" are) you name one (or more) person(s) as the Director. You do not, ever, have to name every (or even one) owner in the registration, only the director(s). If that LLC changes hands/adds more owners/removes owners, the registration number will remain the same even if you file paperwork to change the director.

All said however, any LLC that actually registered would have zero issue providing their registration number.
   
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader




Behind you

Even if Resin forge showed ONE business registration number, It would go a LONG way to actually slowing fears.

To be honest though....would they even show a number? Would they have the balls to actually show their business is legitimate.

No.

DM has proven time and time again he tries to decieve and essentially to shake off any *repayments* he may need to make. I would not be surprised if RF is just DM, and nobody else.

Prove me wrong RF, and I'll buy from you. Prove me right, and you will suffer even more seclusion, even in the USA.

stop lying, and making excuses. You already said it wasn't a fire sale. Now it is and you didn't even change a LETTER in that.

 
   
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I work at a library and why I never thought to ask our(nationally award winning) business librarian about the proof we seek, is beyond me.

I asked her if there is a way to look up a business and see of they are legit.
She said it depends on what state they are in.

I told her about the situation here and what we're asking for and she said it doesn't matter if they are an LLC or not, they can still be shady.
A vendor has a right to request, and recieve, a tax I.D. when setting up an account with a business; although a business has a right to deny the request of their tax I.D. to non vendors because the tax I.D. could be used without the businesses consent.
With these numbers (business or tax ID), and the address and phone information, you could fraudulently open an account and have goods and services sent to your home and billed to that business without a lot of trouble with some people they are roughly comparable, but not exactly to, your social security number.

Usually, a tax ID or business ID would not be given to a consumer.
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

Usually, a tax ID or business ID would not be given to a consumer.


We would also take any other proof of legit business. Anything that can be verifiable.

Ah yes, and we are still waiting for the pics from the HH weekender - we are sure that shouldn't pose any problem

   
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader




Behind you

Well, looks like they lied again

Resin Forge Store
about an hour ago
@Joshua Exe has asked what other pre made unit we will be listing over the week. Actually, what units do you guys and gals want to fill your forces? Without shoulder pads means they can be for any Legion and with the bits stock we still have, anything can be made!

Joshua, how about you start us out as your not only a regular bits customer since the start but also now a unit buyer!


Also, apparently they are BCCing customers with a picture to spam forums.

Right, so if you want to get your customers BLOCKED from those forums, and lose their own friends for posting irrelevant pictures, go ahead. Resin forge will take the blame.

 
   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

They aren't going to provide any of that at this point... Like a business registration number proving a degree of legitimacy and more importantly a degree of liability is something to be ashamed of or hidden, counter to the very purpose of it lol.

Dear RF, you are suspected of being Mandelbonder only and he is known to have operated under aliases, faked fictional family deaths, and lying constantly to the community he operates in to a pathological degree. Do you have a means to prove you are A a legitimate business with 2 other people as owners and B photographs to prove you were at the HH weekender?

RF - Yes we do how dare you!

Us - Can you simply show the info you promised and/or should be public record then?

RF - No.

Us - Why not?

RF - *sound of smoke pellet being thrown -

   
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But hey, maybe he's like Deadpool - not sure which personality is driving the body...


Let's not insult Deadpool like this. He is, at least, a professional and surprisingly honest fictional character.

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TERRA

Also, apparently they are BCCing customers with a picture to spam forums.

What kind of picture? To what end? To drive sales?

how about you start us out

What does "to start somebody out" mean? Mandelbaum-English translation please, thanks.

In any case business seems to be going great, as they have already (allegedly) sold 4000 US-$ worth of bits:


And this is either advertisement or something he will bitterly regret doing because other people know where to find real lawyers, we will see. Or do you think it will be the HH weekender pics? Or maybe the big support by Forge World that was announced?

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Feldwebel




Tamworth, UK

So he's changed from a BITS seller, to a CONVERSION seller?

Does he really think that this will wash?

He's not gone away, he's not proven that RF's. legitimate business, he's banned from pretty much every board going. So now he's attempting to dupe 'customers'?

I notice that even his most ardent supporter Gamma/ Dome has now given up trying to defend the indefensible!

Daniel, give it up - you're not fooling anyone, nobody believes you apart from the dopes that you've roped in with some pretty shoddy conversions.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

 Inquisitor S. wrote:


In any case business seems to be going great, as they have already (allegedly) sold 4000 US-$ worth of bits:




That claim floored me, too.

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TERRA

So now he's attempting to dupe 'customers'?

How?

I notice that even his most ardent supporter Gamma/ Dome has now given up trying to defend the indefensible!


What makes you think that?

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Feldwebel




Tamworth, UK

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
So now he's attempting to dupe 'customers'?

How?

Apologies - cut the sentence off - 'by resorting to blind copy emails and PM's
I notice that even his most ardent supporter Gamma/ Dome has now given up trying to defend the indefensible!

What makes you think that?
well, I've not seen him speaking up recently?
   
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TERRA

What makes you think that?
well, I've not seen him speaking up recently?


I think he said somewhere he was not willing to grace this forum with his presense anymore for the bad treatment the three Resin Forge families received. Something like that.

   
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

I like how RF tried to play the "people are messing with our incomes, we have kids to fee" scant weeks after RF tried that exact thing on me, trying to have me fired.

And I seriously doubt that they have moved 4k worth of product in a single week, or that a single person is buying up all of the conversions.

I also like how they keep saying they are ignoring Dakka, but then are constantly reading this thread.

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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
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*Note to self: Avoid dodgy bitz resellers*

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Feldwebel




Tamworth, UK

And again, he still avoids the question, and the simple way of proving he was at the HH weekender - BOARDING CARDS AND RECEIPTS DON'T HAVE YOUR PHOTO ON THEM DANIEL.

Also, the mask has slipped - the text is back to the poor spelling and syntax that is unmistakably Daniel.

And finally - so there's a mystery 'buyer' of the remaining $4k of stock is there? Well, expect like a Phoenix from the flames, the next MandelBonder attempt shortly then....
   
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A horrible thought hit me. Considering some rather....unlucky kickstart projects and what have you (defiance games springs to mind, though they're apparently working to get back on track), whats to stop DM from starting a kickstart, doing horribly well and then...what was it called, something of Anteres happening all over again?

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Just showing the text in question....
   
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

They stick the idea that pics of the owners are what we want. We said we'd take boarding passes, which show name and flight info that can be verified that said people were at least in the country at that time(or had shelled out for tickets).

I agree that the syntax is back to Mandelbondsley style.

"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Inquisitor S. wrote:
What makes you think that?
well, I've not seen him speaking up recently?


I think he said somewhere he was not willing to grace this forum with his presense anymore for the bad treatment the three Resin Forge families received. Something like that.


Yup... we are definitely harassing two fictional families we don't believe exist due to nearly complete lack of evidence.

Aerethan wrote:I like how RF tried to play the "people are messing with our incomes, we have kids to fee" scant weeks after RF tried that exact thing on me, trying to have me fired.

And I seriously doubt that they have moved 4k worth of product in a single week, or that a single person is buying up all of the conversions.

I also like how they keep saying they are ignoring Dakka, but then are constantly reading this thread.


Exactly, the brass ones on this guy are beyond belief... if any of his supporters realized he tried to get you fired for posting a question on facebook and still back him they are as bad as him or really, totally clueless. I have to admit, Mandelbaum talking about honor as a defense makes my blood boil as there are crack dealers with more honor and honesty than that guy if you ask me...

   
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St. Louis Missery... Erm... Missouri

Also funny that those quotes come from this thread as I havent seen Lex post them on FB.... And totally dodges the question of "legal, verifiable proof."

One symptom of classic narcisism is being unable to shut out what other people are saying about you, even if you have to go out of your way to find it....

Just go away dude.

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Akron, OH

 doc1234 wrote:
A horrible thought hit me. Considering some rather....unlucky kickstart projects and what have you (defiance games springs to mind, though they're apparently working to get back on track), whats to stop DM from starting a kickstart, doing horribly well and then...what was it called, something of Anteres happening all over again?


He'd have to actually provide proper legal information for once, and pay taxes.

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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

Since Daniel is still reading and commenting (love how he can't let go )

Resin Forge Store
So Lex, what other proof would you like? Or to quote you as well:

"We would also take any other proof of legit business. Anything that can be verifiable.

Ah yes, and we are still waiting for the pics from the HH weekender - we are sure that shouldn't pose any problem"

The legal proof you promised people. Show us you are not Mandelbaum. Show us you are Hernandez and Martin.

Resin Forge Store :
Second part will never happen. You ran us into the ground, we tookd care of people at that very event, people here talked abotu selling us extras and the few pictures we have were taken with US in them.

We did not talk to any "Fulgrim sellers", nice you still try to use that excuse. We could however interprete your statement as an admission of not getting Fulgrims?

Resin Forge Store :
We will NOT show you what we look like after you crushed us into dust.

This puzzles us. YOu looked crushed into the dust on your Horus Heresy Weekender pics? Oh my, probably it was very exhausting to take all these selfies?

" Contrary to what RF claims he/ they were not accused of being fraudsters by us or Dakka officials. So far no case of non-delivery or non-refund by Resin Forge has come to light. Some complaints, yeah, but (due to their own will or public pressure) people were refunden and their orders "found again". So there is no handle (nor interest) to "stop" or "shut down" RF. "

That's correct. You were accused of being Daniel Mandelbaum. Same as from the very beginning, Daniel Who is accused by lots of people to still owe them money and minis.

Resin Forge Store :
But then 2 days later question sales to our own customers publicly.

LEAVE US ALONE LEX AND LET US CLOSE!

Did we? Oh my, that comes as quite a surprise, does it? We mean, after all the time you telling the truth, how could anyone doubt any further statements?

Resin Forge Store :
The website will be closed in the next 1-3 days. Someone is buying up the rest of the stock at that time. We are taking a loss but its better then stay a part of a community that runs us into the dust, the admits RF never did any wrong. Great work guys.

The page here will stay as it is and we will post random articles and fluff things as we wrap things up. Once thats done within 10 days, we will be officially done. If anyone has a question, PM it, dont bother posting it here as it will be removed. This is a thread of us flat out saying, Lex, you won, We quit. Leave us alone to close in peace.

No worries, you know as we know that we will meet again. Better make sure you have arguments then. We didn't win as we didn't play. And the people who you still owe money and miniatures didn't win as they are still owed.

That's the best Mandeldrama you could think of?



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Making Stuff






Under the couch

 doc1234 wrote:
A horrible thought hit me. Considering some rather....unlucky kickstart projects and what have you (defiance games springs to mind, though they're apparently working to get back on track), whats to stop DM from starting a kickstart, doing horribly well and then...what was it called, something of Anteres happening all over again?

If you're referring to Gates of Antares, what do you think happened to that project that would be a problem? It just didn't fund. Nothing shady went on.

 
   
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

Also funny that those quotes come from this thread as I havent seen Lex post them on FB.... And totally dodges the question of "legal, verifiable proof."

One symptom of classic narcisism is being unable to shut out what other people are saying about you, even if you have to go out of your way to find it....


Of course not. He will come back here. Again. And again. And again. Despite his (how manyI public tantrums that he would never do that

   
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

"Kim" just called me, heard a guy in the background feeding lines. She told me to stop harassing them, despite me not having spoken directly with them in a while. Then she hung up on me.

Again, calling from a google number.

"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

"Kim" just called me, heard a guy in the background feeding lines. She told me to stop harassing them, despite me not having spoken directly with them in a while. Then she hung up on me.

Again, calling from a google number.


You should have said: I don't know any Kim, am I speaking to Stephanie?

   
 
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