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T'au Errata covers FTGG a bit better but still no official word on if you declare all units using FTGG before you start rolling your shots, or if you can go unit by unit until the enemy is destroyed. Come on guys.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/29/warhammer-40000-update-april-2019-gw-homepage-post-2/

For your perusal.
   
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 Galef wrote:
 Burnage wrote:
Oh my God they actually nerfed the Craftworld psychic powers to only affect Craftworlds.

RIP, Doomseer.
Good, then. No changes to my only Asuryani list. Doom will continue to work exactly the same for me.

EDIT: Looks like no more 3++ Knights

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FLY works over units in charge phase, but not buildings! I think that's a pretty fair change.

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 Kanluwen wrote:


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.


I've said many times that the reason it takes so long for FAQs to come out is the rules team has to sit in stunned silence for a good five minutes after the community teams read them some of the questions.

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Looks to me like only CWE debuffs got the "Only when attacked by <Codex> Models"?

SM didn't get that change, but I haven't checked every debuff in other books...
   
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Sunny Side Up wrote:
The Newman wrote:
I see the new dates on the existing errata files. I thought this one in the Marine errata was odd:

Q: How do the Flakk Missile and Hellfire Shells Stratagems
interact with an Armorium Cherub? Are you able to ‘reload’ the
weapon and fire again with the benefit of the Stratagem?
A: No. You can, however, use the Stratagem a
second time to affect the second shot (subject to the
usual restrictions).

I don't know why they bothered with anything past "No." since the core strategem rules stop you from using Hellfire Shells / Flakk Missiles a second time.


Only in matched play. Otherwise, what restrictions would stop you from using the strat twice?


Ah, I had forgotten that restriction only applies to Matched Play. We never play anything else so I had no reason to remember it.

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Wow there are a LOOOOOT of clarifications for the BRB. This will take a while to unpack.

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The Newman wrote:


The one in the main rulebook that says a given strategem can only be used once per phase. Don't have it handy, reddit says page 215.


That restriction only applies in matched play games, as I said.
   
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Q: When a rule allows a model or unit to take an action (move,
shoot, charge, fight or attempt to manifest a psychic power)
outside of the normal turn sequence, and that rule explicitly
mentions to make that action as if it were a different phase of the
turn structure to the current one, e.g. ‘That unit can shoot as if it
were the Shooting phase’, do rules that are normally used during
that phase (in the example this would be the Shooting phase) take
effect? Is the same true of Overwatch attacks?


A: With the exception of Stratagems, all rules (e.g.
abilities, Warlord Traits, psychic powers etc.) that would
apply in a specific phase apply to actions that are taking
place ‘as if it were that phase’. However, if a Stratagem
specifies that it must be used in a specific phase, then
it can only be used in that phase (e.g. you cannot use a
Stratagem that says ‘Use this Stratagem in the Shooting
phase’ to affect a unit that is Shooting ‘as if it were
the Shooting phase’). For the purposes of this FAQ,
Overwatch attacks are also considered to be attacks made
as if it were your Shooting phase.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Castellans got 100 points more expensive.


Where is this?
   
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Reemule wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Castellans got 100 points more expensive.


Where is this?


Big FAQ at the very end. specifically it's weapons went up, not the Castellan (but it cannot not have the Vulcano Lance)
   
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Reemule wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Castellans got 100 points more expensive.


Where is this?

Very bottom. 100 points up.

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Right behind you.

 EnTyme wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.


I've said many times that the reason it takes so long for FAQs to come out is the rules team has to sit in stunned silence for a good five minutes after the community teams read them some of the questions.

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Slight nerf to Mental Onslaught.

Page 113 – Mental Onslaught
Change the last sentence of this psychic power to read:
‘If your score is higher, the enemy model’s unit suffers 1
mortal wound; if the selected model is still alive you then
repeat this process (each player rolling a D6 and adding
their respective Leadership) until either the selected
model is destroyed, your opponent rolls a 6, and/or your
opponent’s result is equal to or higher than yours.’

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Lootas took expected nerf. Stormboyz also small hit

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Mob up got shanked.

Page 126 – Stratagems, Mob Up
Change the first and second sentences of this Stratagem
to read:
‘Use this Stratagem at the end of your Movement phase,
before setting up any reinforcement units in your army
on the battlefield (if any). Select two <Clan> Boyz units
from your army that are within 2" of each other.’



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Obliterators are 115 and 1-3.

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Link to the FAQ for those of us not seeing it yet?
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Castellans got 100 points more expensive.
Where? There is nothing about it in the IK faq
   
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Really obvious changes here. Great for the game.

Castellans ^
Doom CWE only
Jinx CWE only
DW no Astartes rule.
115 Oblitz

Not effective Vehicles is dumb though. LRC went from being almost useable to total garbo again. (I think any rule that invalidates LR's even more is a bad rule) Exactly what vehicle was over performing with this?

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Who was walking units off the play area? Oh geez.
   
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No more DW beta bolters.

Page 64 – Special Issue Ammunition
Change the first paragraph of this ability to read:
‘When this unit fires any ranged weapons from the
following list, you can choose for it to fire special
ammunition. If you do so, the Bolter Discipline ability
does not apply when resolving their shots, but you
instead choose one kind of ammunition from the table
to the right and apply the corresponding modifier.’

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The Newman wrote:
Link to the FAQ for those of us not seeing it yet?

Go to google and type warhammer community. Boom.

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 Xenomancers wrote:
The Newman wrote:
Link to the FAQ for those of us not seeing it yet?

Go to google and type warhammer community. Boom.


Hilariously, it isn't on the FAQ page yet.
   
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The Newman wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
The Newman wrote:
Link to the FAQ for those of us not seeing it yet?

Go to google and type warhammer community. Boom.


Hilariously, it isn't on the FAQ page yet.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/warhammer_40000_update_April_2019_en.pdf
it is. Heres link though.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
No more DW beta bolters.

Page 64 – Special Issue Ammunition
Change the first paragraph of this ability to read:
‘When this unit fires any ranged weapons from the
following list, you can choose for it to fire special
ammunition. If you do so, the Bolter Discipline ability
does not apply when resolving their shots, but you
instead choose one kind of ammunition from the table
to the right and apply the corresponding modifier.’
For clarification, it does appear that DW CAN use Bolter Discipline, but not at the same time as they choose SIA.
I'm sure the Math is out there on regular bolters/bolt rifles getting double shot vs SIA variants with single shots

I suspect double shots via BD have there place in some very niche situations (long range shooting at a light tank, maybe?) where Hellfire rounds do nothing, Kraken doesn't get you in half range and doing more wound will net you more than Vengeance's AP boost

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 Xenomancers wrote:
Really obvious changes here. Great for the game.

Castellans ^
Doom CWE only
Jinx CWE only
DW no Astartes rule.
115 Oblitz

Not effective Vehicles is dumb though. LRC went from being almost useable to total garbo again. (I think any rule that invalidates LR's even more is a bad rule) Exactly what vehicle was over performing with this?


I read it as DW get Bolter Discipline if they don't use Special Issue Ammo, so basically they just got Beta Bolter as a 4th ammo type. Not thrilled with Vehicles losing it either, makes it harder to point Hurricane Bolters correctly.

Also, makes SM vehicles relatively less valuable overall. Also, also, not thrilled that they didn't even acknowledge that Bolter Discipline makes any non-rapid fire "bolt" weapon worse by comparison. I was hoping for some revision of Bolter Drill to fix that, but baring that at least a "we realize this has had unintended side effects, look for point revisions in the next CA" would have been welcome.

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The Newman wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
Really obvious changes here. Great for the game.

Castellans ^
Doom CWE only
Jinx CWE only
DW no Astartes rule.
115 Oblitz

Not effective Vehicles is dumb though. LRC went from being almost useable to total garbo again. (I think any rule that invalidates LR's even more is a bad rule) Exactly what vehicle was over performing with this?


I read it as DW get Bolter Discipline if they don't use Special Issue Ammo, so basically they just got Beta Bolter as a 4th ammo type. Not thrilled with Vehicles losing it either, makes it harder to point Hurricane Bolters correctly.

Also, makes SM vehicles relatively less valuable overall. Also, also, not thrilled that they didn't even acknowledge that Bolter Discipline makes any non-rapid fire "bolt" weapon worse by comparison. I was hoping for some revision of Bolter Drill to fix that, but baring that at least a "we realize this has had unintended side effects, look for point revisions in the next CA" would have been welcome.
You are correct. For example - a DW storm bolter on a dread does get astartes rule. Or you could chose to use astartes rule or SIA on anything else.

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Heed nerf is bad, but the brotherhood champ double nerf, why? No one used him, and now he got nerfed.

All in all the GK FAQ is fun stuff.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.


I've said many times that the reason it takes so long for FAQs to come out is the rules team has to sit in stunned silence for a good five minutes after the community teams read them some of the questions.

I think I might want to sig this.


Feel free to correct my grammar. Dealing with the after effects of a fever, so my brain isn't fully functional today.

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 Eldarsif wrote:
My Shining Spears have been shelved from 2nd editions when I bought them up until I decided to try them again in 8th.

You bought Shining Spears in 2nd edition? What sort of conversion did you do, as they weren't released as a kit until 3rd edition (metal add-on to the plastic jetbike, IIRC).

 Xenomancers wrote:
There is no way the FAQ is released this month at this point...If by some miracle it is - what exactly was the logic behind releasing it mid week on the very last day of april? Other than procrastination?

Nothing wrong with the occasional bit of procrastination.

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