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Wasn't the last big FAQ released on a Monday?
   
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The last spring FAQ was a monday, but the last big FAQ was a friday IIRC.

In regards to why it'd drop now, it's not unlikely that they were tweaking minor things and biding their sweet time. Then they were ready to drop it last week but were nixed on that since it was Slaanesh week. Also, hopefully so we're not caught in some perpetual torment where the spring FAQ is always a month late

   
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Well I am fine with it always being on the end of the month, but I do think they could communicate the fact better. "End of April" instead of April and I am fine. I am absolutely positive there was no delay. End of April was always the target.
   
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 Eldarsif wrote:
This misses the forest for the trees.

The units that got hikes were the most point efficient and so consequently the best picks for Ynnari.


Yes and no. The Dark Reaper point increase I can get behind as I agree that was an overperforming unit on all accounts. What people are now asking: Was the increase too steep or not? We will start seeing more details about that as the Ynnari Index becomes official and whether Dark Reapers will see use in the future. Going over most recent tourney lists it seems mostly Ynnari were picking Reapers while Asuryani players were picking other things.

Shining Spears, however, were riding the Ynnari wave from start to finish. It's why GW didn't hit them as hard as Dark Reapers while Dark Reapers were dominating with the double-shooting at their old point cost. Regarding Shining Spears you will rarely see them in non-Ynnari lists as you are just not getting the best bang for the buck.


And i'll tell you right now - dark reaper points drop is a pipe dream. They are in no way over costed.

Shining Spears can be debatable, but I have a big project for work to finish so I can't tackle that right this moment.

   
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PiñaColada wrote:
The last spring FAQ was a monday, but the last big FAQ was a friday IIRC.

In regards to why it'd drop now, it's not unlikely that they were tweaking minor things and biding their sweet time. Then they were ready to drop it last week but were nixed on that since it was Slaanesh week. Also, hopefully so we're not caught in some perpetual torment where the spring FAQ is always a month late



And friday being last weekday(mond-friday) of september.

And well month late this year would be end may.

GW should just not give any word about when they release as players are never happy. Give exact date and you get into trouble if you miss deadline, don't give exact date and you get complains anyway. Lose lose. Can't win.

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tneva82 wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
The last spring FAQ was a monday, but the last big FAQ was a friday IIRC.

In regards to why it'd drop now, it's not unlikely that they were tweaking minor things and biding their sweet time. Then they were ready to drop it last week but were nixed on that since it was Slaanesh week. Also, hopefully so we're not caught in some perpetual torment where the spring FAQ is always a month late



And friday being last weekday(mond-friday) of september.

And well month late this year would be end may.

GW should just not give any word about when they release as players are never happy. Give exact date and you get into trouble if you miss deadline, don't give exact date and you get complains anyway. Lose lose. Can't win.
Why don't they, I don't know, give an exact date and not miss the deadline?

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 BaconCatBug wrote:
Why don't they, I don't know, give an exact date and not miss the deadline?


Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.

Seeing as it's past 11:00 here it seems like no FAQs today.

   
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Well seems coming today it seems. At least one person claims seen them and now lots of faq's missing for me so seems they are updating the faq page

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Right behind you.

tneva82 wrote:
Well seems coming today it seems. At least one person claims seen them and now lots of faq's missing for me so seems they are updating the faq page

There's a bunch up saying 4/29 so for sure!

I'm happy with this:
Q: Can I issue the Move! Move! Move! order to a unit which has Fallen Back this turn?A: No. The Move! Move! Move! order states the unit must Advance, and a unit which has Fallen Back cannot Advance.


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.
   
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 BaconCatBug wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
The last spring FAQ was a monday, but the last big FAQ was a friday IIRC.

In regards to why it'd drop now, it's not unlikely that they were tweaking minor things and biding their sweet time. Then they were ready to drop it last week but were nixed on that since it was Slaanesh week. Also, hopefully so we're not caught in some perpetual torment where the spring FAQ is always a month late



And friday being last weekday(mond-friday) of september.

And well month late this year would be end may.

GW should just not give any word about when they release as players are never happy. Give exact date and you get into trouble if you miss deadline, don't give exact date and you get complains anyway. Lose lose. Can't win.
Why don't they, I don't know, give an exact date and not miss the deadline?


No, obviously the best solution is to post an article about how the FAQ is "on the verge of reaching fruition," then go radio silent about it for six weeks and ignore everyone who asks about it before dropping it at the last second possible.

I don't think anyone is asking for a set in stone date six months in advance, but if they can't nail down a date a week or two in advance then there's something very wrong with either their design process or ability to communicate.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Well seems coming today it seems. At least one person claims seen them and now lots of faq's missing for me so seems they are updating the faq page

There's a bunch up saying 4/29 so for sure!

I'm happy with this:
Q: Can I issue the Move! Move! Move! order to a unit which has Fallen Back this turn?A: No. The Move! Move! Move! order states the unit must Advance, and a unit which has Fallen Back cannot Advance.


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.


Because you know life isn't perfect and everything goes as planned? If it did stealer cult codex would have been out last year(before orks).

Why risk more annoyed people? Now you piss just people x. If you put in exact day and miss you piss of those and more. Nothing to gain, more to lose.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Well seems coming today it seems. At least one person claims seen them and now lots of faq's missing for me so seems they are updating the faq page

There's a bunch up saying 4/29 so for sure!

I'm happy with this:
Q: Can I issue the Move! Move! Move! order to a unit which has Fallen Back this turn?A: No. The Move! Move! Move! order states the unit must Advance, and a unit which has Fallen Back cannot Advance.


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.


What are you talking about? Cant see anything new.
   
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Right behind you.

tneva82 wrote:

Because you know life isn't perfect and everything goes as planned? If it did stealer cult codex would have been out last year(before orks).

Why risk more annoyed people? Now you piss just people x. If you put in exact day and miss you piss of those and more. Nothing to gain, more to lose.

You should have read my post as "I can't believe that needed to be FAQ'd".

And I'm agreeing with you. The FAQ section is updated for 40k, with almost everything showing 29/04/2019.
   
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 Eldarsif wrote:
He's exaggerating a bit but he's not wrong about CMS/Loyalist Marine shooting being really mopey without their reroll buff auras. Not speaking for CMS, but the vanilla marine codex seems to have been balanced around rerolling 1s to hit and to wound on every single unit every turn.


This is a problem with flat bonus auras. Auras just tend to be problematic in my experience because they work only in certain given contexts and not in others.

Appologies if I'm misreading your intention, but nobody is denying that. The context of the argument was:

"If Shining Spears are only good with this big pile of buffs, why is that a problem for CWE when it's not considered a problem for my CSM to also need a couple of buffing characters to function?"

"That's a strawman."

"How is that a strawman?"

"Show me a CSM unit that needs an equivalent number of buffs to work."

And I pointed out in the post you're responding to that CSM and LSM are both entirely balanced around their buffing characters, so every CSM and LSM unit needs a couple of buffing characters to work properly. For all practical purposes you're agreeing with me, in a way that looks like you're disagreeing.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
The FAQ section is updated for 40k, with almost everything showing 29/04/2019.
Any chance you can link to what you are looking at? I'm on the FAQ page of WC and I don't see a single 29/04/2019 date.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
tneva82 wrote:

Because you know life isn't perfect and everything goes as planned? If it did stealer cult codex would have been out last year(before orks).

Why risk more annoyed people? Now you piss just people x. If you put in exact day and miss you piss of those and more. Nothing to gain, more to lose.

You should have read my post as "I can't believe that needed to be FAQ'd".

And I'm agreeing with you. The FAQ section is updated for 40k, with almost everything showing 29/04/2019.


What are you all talking about? Nothing is showing 4/29.
   
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Could one of you guys who sees the new FAQ please post a direct link? It's not updated for me.
   
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Cinderspirit wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Well seems coming today it seems. At least one person claims seen them and now lots of faq's missing for me so seems they are updating the faq page

There's a bunch up saying 4/29 so for sure!

I'm happy with this:
Q: Can I issue the Move! Move! Move! order to a unit which has Fallen Back this turn?A: No. The Move! Move! Move! order states the unit must Advance, and a unit which has Fallen Back cannot Advance.


I can't believe it needed to be FAQ, but then again I can't believe they needed to make it clear the Relic of Lost Cadia was once per game.


What are you talking about? Cant see anything new.

Typical when faq's get updatet. For a while not all see them. I don't even see entire necron faq! Not even old one. Bit wait and all shou'd come.

Seen few screenshots though. Necron transports confirmed to not allow coming out t1 but emergency strategem works t1, wraiths gain ability to charge through models etc.

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And here it is finally!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/warhammer_40000_rulebook_en-3.pdf

   
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They're showing for me now - no big FAQ, but most of the others have been updated. Try refreshing your browser cache if they don't show.
   
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Oh my God they actually nerfed the Craftworld psychic powers to only affect Craftworlds.

RIP, Doomseer.
   
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 Galef wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
The FAQ section is updated for 40k, with almost everything showing 29/04/2019.
Any chance you can link to what you are looking at? I'm on the FAQ page of WC and I don't see a single 29/04/2019 date.

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I'm on Warhammer Community, clicked Warhammer 40,000. I did a forced refresh and they popped up.


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Page 106 – Rotate Ion Shields Change the last sentence of this Stratagem to read: ‘Until the end of the phase, that vehicle unit’s invulnerable save is improved by 1 (to a maximum of 4 +).’


It's in every Knights related FAQ.

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 Burnage wrote:
Oh my God they actually nerfed the Craftworld psychic powers to only affect Craftworlds.

RIP, Doomseer.
Good, then. No changes to my only Asuryani list. Doom will continue to work exactly the same for me.

EDIT: Looks like no more 3++ Knights

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I see the new dates on the existing errata files. I thought this one in the Marine errata was odd:

Q: How do the Flakk Missile and Hellfire Shells Stratagems
interact with an Armorium Cherub? Are you able to ‘reload’ the
weapon and fire again with the benefit of the Stratagem?
A: No. You can, however, use the Stratagem a
second time to affect the second shot (subject to the
usual restrictions).

I don't know why they bothered with anything past "No." since the core strategem rules stop you from using Hellfire Shells / Flakk Missiles a second time.

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NVM

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Guys, the faqs have been updated

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/


EDIT: Ok nevermind

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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The Newman wrote:
I see the new dates on the existing errata files. I thought this one in the Marine errata was odd:

Q: How do the Flakk Missile and Hellfire Shells Stratagems
interact with an Armorium Cherub? Are you able to ‘reload’ the
weapon and fire again with the benefit of the Stratagem?
A: No. You can, however, use the Stratagem a
second time to affect the second shot (subject to the
usual restrictions).

I don't know why they bothered with anything past "No." since the usual restrictions stop you from using Hellfire Shells / Flakk Missiles a second time.


You know right that strat only once is not core rule? Answer needs to work without that extra restriction

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Castellans got 100 points more expensive.
   
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Page 174 – Points Values, Obliterators
Change the Obliterators’ Models per Unit value to read
‘1-3’ and Points per Model value to read ‘115’.

CSM FAQ, not in magenta, which is why I couldn't find it at first either
Obvious answer was obvious

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The Newman wrote:
I see the new dates on the existing errata files. I thought this one in the Marine errata was odd:

Q: How do the Flakk Missile and Hellfire Shells Stratagems
interact with an Armorium Cherub? Are you able to ‘reload’ the
weapon and fire again with the benefit of the Stratagem?
A: No. You can, however, use the Stratagem a
second time to affect the second shot (subject to the
usual restrictions).

I don't know why they bothered with anything past "No." since the core strategem rules stop you from using Hellfire Shells / Flakk Missiles a second time.


Only in matched play. Otherwise, what restrictions would stop you from using the strat twice?
   
 
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