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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 00:43:00
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Who is jimi hedrix?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:00:06
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Nirvana is so overrated. You don't think emo kids should wear Nirvana shirts? Nirvana was the birth of emo.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:07:22
Subject: Re:Send me back to the 90's.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Today is much better.
Ya we have front row seats to the end of the world man. God damn economy, god damn iran with oil and tones of resources (most lithium ever found). God damn china. Automatically Appended Next Post: Nirvana is so overrated. You don't think emo kids should wear Nirvana shirts? Nirvana was the birth of emo.
Thats the truth man. I come from a rich family and i am going to pretend to be a bum and sleep one night under a bridge and sing about hardships i have put on myself. Awesome story bro lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:14:25
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Monster Rain wrote:Nirvana is so overrated. You don't think emo kids should wear Nirvana shirts? Nirvana was the birth of emo.
Nirvana were ok, but a number of the the bands they revered and emulated should have gotten more recognition for being the influences that shaped Nirvana, and because in many ways they were more artistically and sonically innovative than Nirvana:
Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr., The Pixies, etc.
Nirvana took the dynamics, sonic experimentation, and aesthetics of these bands and then rode them to the top. Nirvana became the poster boys for an approach to music that they didn't create and became anointed with a title they didn't really earn imho...
That being said the fact that really bad commercial metal got a stake put in it's heart is still a positive outcome of the whole affair.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:16:54
Subject: Re:Send me back to the 90's.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Getting killed helped to maintain there status for way way to long. Should have let them go on to run out of ideas and have everyone forget about them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:21:48
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Boo. That's all of your opinions
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:36:29
Subject: Re:Send me back to the 90's.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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@Samus
Hey man, its not like i am saying the music now days is any better. CURSE YOU KANYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:40:21
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Who were Nirvana?
was that the dudes with a bandana
this post is in danger
of getting much stranger
I'm eating a psychadelic banana
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:40:39
Subject: Re:Send me back to the 90's.
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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kaidsin wrote:@Samus
Hey man, its not like i am saying the music now days is any better. CURSE YOU KANYE
Anything from before '96 is better than what we have now. Really. The only thing I listen to from this millennium is MGMT. And live cuts from artists who were good before 96
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 01:49:24
Subject: Re:Send me back to the 90's.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Anything from before '96 is better than what we have now
But in 96 we didn't have dub step!
http://soundcloud.com/nit-grit/tracks?page=2#play
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 02:00:20
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Feth? Gakk? Geez I AM old! I have never heard these slang words before... I grew up in the late 70-80s as a youngster/teenager. So I know it's not from that time period. Although, maybe I should say that, "oh hey there's senile old Melanie posting again."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 02:07:44
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Melanieshaman wrote:Feth? Gakk? Geez I AM old! I have never heard these slang words before... I grew up in the late 70-80s as a youngster/teenager. So I know it's not from that time period. Although, maybe I should say that, "oh hey there's senile old Melanie posting again."
It's the swear filter.
"feth you, you fething gakkicking fethgakker!" for example.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 02:09:54
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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They are Warhammer related colloquiallisms Melanie
If you don't remember your namesake with her brand new key then you's a spring chicken!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 02:52:47
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Screaming Banshee
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Either send me to the 1980s or the 1790s...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 02:57:21
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I hated nirvana t-shirts in the 90's. One week everyone was like, grunge sucks, nirvana are lame, and the next everyone loved them, because their singer killed himself. I was like, these guys still suck what's going on? It's even worse now because the kids wearing the shirts probably have never even listened to any of the bands who's shirts they are wearing. Why would you ever wear a shirt with a band on it unless you really liked the band?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 04:17:55
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:They are Warhammer related colloquiallisms Melanie
If you don't remember your namesake with her brand new key then you's a spring chicken! 
wierd i used to play warhammer almost 2 decades ago..i don't remember those.
and HUH?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 05:11:24
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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I have only heard these expressions used on Dakka so assumed them to be 40k profanities.
spring chicken = youngster
Melanie had a sole UK hit with a song about roller skates and a key c1970
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 05:13:09
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos
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Has Crystal Pepsi made a comeback yet? I'm curious to know. They only just re-introduced 7-Up here. Unfortunately, it has aspartame in it instead of real tooth rotting sugar, so I won't drink it.
As for Nirvana, I remember when he offed himself. I was drinking beer in my friend's car in the parking lot at school. I was never really into them, but they had a few OK songs. Slayer was way better. It's strange how music tastes divide teenagers into feuding camps.
Was Limp Bizkit in the 90s? I don't remember when, I just remember the suck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 09:59:34
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Soggy Bizkit didn't hit the UK until Mission Impossible 2, so whenever that came out (2,000 I think).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 14:59:01
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Khornholio wrote:
Was Limp Bizkit in the 90s? I don't remember when, I just remember the suck.
That kind of suck leaves a lasting Stain. I still cringe every time I hear that guy attempting to rap...
The Faith cover was amusing in a "one hit wonder" sort of way, but someone should have had the good sense to pull the plug on them after that...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 15:10:51
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Beast of Nurgle
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While not many I know share my sentiments, I'd probably like to just go back to the 80's. The lights, people and disco are just one of my things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 15:13:12
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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BrockRitcey wrote:I hated nirvana t-shirts in the 90's. One week everyone was like, grunge sucks, nirvana are lame, and the next everyone loved them, because their singer killed himself. I was like, these guys still suck what's going on? It's even worse now because the kids wearing the shirts probably have never even listened to any of the bands who's shirts they are wearing. Why would you ever wear a shirt with a band on it unless you really liked the band?
My point. Nirvana just considered themselves rock at the time, not grunge. Grunge didn't really exist until about the middle of nirvana's career (about 91-92)...The whole thing is just stupid. What did they expect to happen?
The very music tells people not to be false and to be natural, and the kids go and steal the mood and pretend to be something they aren't....It's just dumb.Really. Grunge was dumb.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 15:30:57
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Samus_aran115 wrote:BrockRitcey wrote:I hated nirvana t-shirts in the 90's. One week everyone was like, grunge sucks, nirvana are lame, and the next everyone loved them, because their singer killed himself. I was like, these guys still suck what's going on? It's even worse now because the kids wearing the shirts probably have never even listened to any of the bands who's shirts they are wearing. Why would you ever wear a shirt with a band on it unless you really liked the band?
My point. Nirvana just considered themselves rock at the time, not grunge. Grunge didn't really exist until about the middle of nirvana's career (about 91-92)...The whole thing is just stupid. What did they expect to happen?
The very music tells people not to be false and to be natural, and the kids go and steal the mood and pretend to be something they aren't....It's just dumb.Really. Grunge was dumb.
"Grunge" is a label that the media, industry and pop culture applied to music and various bands during that time because it makes writing articles, organizing music racks and doing awful retrospective shows easier to market to clueless consumers.
Look at the bands that got lumped together, many of them have very little in common. Sound garden and Alice in Chains fell within that classification mostly based on geography, and they have very little in common with Nirvana musically, and the list could go on and on. What is "grunge"? Flannel shirts? Nope flannel was worn for many many years prior to Grunge, but somehow that becomes "grunge", etc.
In fact many bands desperately wanted to be called "grunge" because it was beneficial to them at the time.
Nirvana was a noise-pop version of the bands they emulated (Sonic Youth, Mud Honey, Meat Puppets, etc.), bands that had been making far superior and sonically similar music for a good number of years prior to Nirvana.
Nirvana got chosen and anointed by the media and pop culture as the creators of something they didn't create, and in the process became what they claimed to despise: corporate sellouts and mainstream.
Cobain's worst nightmare became his reality: every frat boy and redneck in America started wearing his band's t-shirts and shouting along to his songs at sporting events and school dances as they high-fived and swilled beer from a keg. Mission aborted. Fail Fail Fail.
From an artistic integrity standpoint if you start seeing merchandise with your band's logo/pics on it in Hot Topic then something has gone terribly wrong...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 15:31:54
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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Ther term 'grunge' was coined well before Nirvana had 'overground' commercial success, IIRC. I think it comes either from Mark Arm (from Mudhoney), or from a seattle fanzine. I can't remember which, and I can't be arsed googling it.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 15:42:02
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Albatross wrote:Ther term 'grunge' was coined well before Nirvana had 'overground' commercial success, IIRC. I think it comes either from Mark Arm (from Mudhoney), or from a seattle fanzine. I can't remember which, and I can't be arsed googling it.
I believe it was the guy from Mud Honey as well who coined the term, but as a commercial classification used by the music/entertainment industry and pop culture it came into popular use in conjunction with the rise of Nirvana and the two will forever be joined at the hip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 15:42:47
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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That's a good post CT Gamer...I agree
And yes, the more I think about it, the "grunge Scene" in seattle was coined a couple years earlier to nirvana.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 16:00:29
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Samus_aran115 wrote:That's a good post CT Gamer...I agree
And yes, the more I think about it, the "grunge Scene" in seattle was coined a couple years earlier to nirvana.
IMO,the "roots' of "grunge" actually started in 1981,with Sonic Youth.
Nirvana may have been credited with "putting grunge on the map",but when compared to Sonic Youth,Soundgarden,Mudhoney,Guntrukk and such,Nirvana falls a bit short in terms of originality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 16:29:38
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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FITZZ wrote:
Nirvana may have been credited with "putting grunge on the map",but when compared to Sonic Youth,Soundgarden,Mudhoney,Guntrukk and such,Nirvana falls a bit short in terms of originality.
Agreed, as I already stated in my previous posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 16:36:10
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Ye' got yer cwotes messed up thar'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 19:33:28
Subject: Send me back to the 90's.
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Fixture of Dakka
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CT GAMER wrote:Albatross wrote:The term 'grunge' was coined well before Nirvana had 'overground' commercial success, IIRC. I think it comes either from Mark Arm (from Mudhoney), or from a seattle fanzine. I can't remember which, and I can't be arsed googling it.
I believe it was the guy from Mud Honey as well who coined the term, but as a commercial classification used by the music/entertainment industry and pop culture it came into popular use in conjunction with the rise of Nirvana and the two will forever be joined at the hip.
Did I dispute that? I don't think I did.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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