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I believe theese rumors to be true,I have heard before that GW was waiting on the machines to be paid off.If any body remember GW releasead a metal thunderhawk before, if they still have the mold it would be very easy for them to manufacture.On some of the other kits might be questionible but i could see a150 to 200 dollar price range.

The metal Thunderhawk would be of absolutely no use for any mass market kit they'd produce now. It consisted of hundreds of loose pewter pieces that didn't fit very well together. Originally it was never meant to be for sale at all, it was something they did for nice diorama photos for use in White Dwarf and other marketing materials, but fan response was so great they decided to sell a limited number of them. It was incredibly difficult to build, much tougher than a Forge World model and was not suitable for mass release at all and those molds would certainly not be suitable for a plastic sprue.

And it was so heavy it bent the landing gear.

But at least it came in a bitching sweet wooden box with logo on it.

And it was an old-style Thunderhawk anyway. It wouldn't fit with the current aesthetic.

What about the chibi-hawk?

That doesn't fit with any aesthetic.

Hrm, with the mention of almost every race getting something, could this be what we're looking at for the Summer:

Imperial Guard (Navy): Thunderbolt
Space Marines: ??? Or maybe the Thunderhawk, iffy I know but still..
Eldar: Nightwing
Dark Eldar: Raven
Orks: Fighta
Chaos: Hell Talon
Tau Empire: Barracuda
Necrons: ???
Tyranids: Harridan?

Good call. But how about a combined Eldar Phoenix/Void Dragon kit?

As for necrons Can’t see a new release before a new codex.

I would be a good window to release a thunder hawk.

I know it's probably less likely but I could see GW doing the Tigershark for tau as it has two variants (or maby that's just me wishing because I hate the barracuda)

But I could also see each race getting some sort of anti-air weapon as well, maby why the hydra has been delayed...

I really wouldn't expect Super-Heavies for a first release. The Thunderhawk is the only exception, as it's iconic. The rest (other than perhaps the Fighta Bomba) aren't.

Yeah, I can see some sort of ground based anti-aircraft weapons being included in the rules.

Pylon for necrons?

I don't think i've ever heard of necron aircraft anywhere

I wouldn't exactly call the Fighta-bomma a super-heavy, don't know why GW did, seeing as it's basically a fighta kit with wing extensions, a larger tail and a ball turret behind the cockpit.

As for the other choices, I went with the most obvious using the Thunderbolt as the primary example. None, except for the T-Hawk, are super-heavies and all are fighter aircraft, which fit in more with the general idea of what has been hinted at. My only iffy inclusion is the Harridan, which had bio-points if not mistaken?

No, you're right. I can see how what I wrote above might have implied that. I didn't meant to imply the Fighta Bomba was a super-heavy flier.

What I meant is that there are no iconic aircraft in 40K outside of the Thunderhawk and Fighta Bomba. Even the Thunderbolt isn't iconic, even if it is well known.


And I'd expect the Harpy before we ever get a plastic Harridan.

I thought that the T-Bolt was the iconic fighter of the Imperium? Old fluff and epic make it out that way.

yeah it is, but it's not really mentioned in the newer fluff (IIRC)

as long as they don't bring out the lightning instead i'll be fine, I love the T-bolt but my FW funds are dry ATM :`(

It's going to be a T-Bolt for sure, seeing as it is in the Apocalypse book.

Perhaps a bit lacking in logic, but it works for me.

BrookM wrote:Space Marines: ??? Or maybe the Thunderhawk, iffy I know but still..

Imagine the internet nerd rage if all Space Marines were getting was the chibi-hawk we already knew about.

JOHIRA wrote:

BrookM wrote:Space Marines: ??? Or maybe the Thunderhawk, iffy I know but still..

Imagine the internet nerd rage if all Space Marines were getting was the chibi-hawk we already knew about.

I would laugh, then watch the rage on the fourums, them buy a two T-bolts

AgeOfEgos wrote:This plastic Thunderhawk is going to be a generational thing.




"I remember Jimmy, back in the day, when we had to walk uphill both ways to get our rumors from the telegraph. Plastic Thunderhawk! they would say...coming soon, just wait! Well, all those years wasted...I should have just forked out the 2 dollars back then to buy one. But no, everyone said wait! Best years of my life wasted waiting on the plastic glory that never flew..."

LOL. You sir, win one (1) Internet.

And despite the Manta rumor being more far fetched than the rest (a plastic Manta kit box would be as big or bigger than most army boxes. That's alot of store real estate on an undoubtedly $200+ model...) I would buy two Orcas. Let me clarify: I would get back into 40k and buy 2 for my Tau army. A Barricuda... maybe. I'll think about it. But Orcas? Done, done, and done.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:yeah it is, but it's not really mentioned in the newer fluff (IIRC)

Are you sure?

A rumor is merely an idea. Don't have high hopes.

If the thunderbolt does come out ( seems very likely). I hope there will be an apocalypse formation data sheet so I can field a squadron.

BrassScorpion wrote:those molds would certainly not be suitable for a plastic sprue.

Bingo. Molds cant be interchanged between materials. Just having a mold for XXXXX model doesnt mean you can now produce it in any material desired.

Plastic is injected into a mold under high pressure, not poured like resin or metal. Plastic molds are made of either iron, steel, or aluminum, and dont work unless installed into an injection molding machine. The process is as different from metal and resin molding as could possibly be.

I wouldnt mind seeing a plastic titan of some sort. Id prefer a Knight myself. Im not a huge fan of the warhound...however if they made one that wasnt too crazy price wise I would add it to my mecha & armor collection.

Is it not more likely that the GW definition of these 'flyers' will be 'anything that goes on the large plastic flying base first created for the Valkyrie'.

On that basis IG already have the Valkyrie/Vendetta, BA and GK are getting the Stormraven (which will doubtless soon be extended to have all chapters take it), DE are expecting the Razorwing/Voidraven.

I would assume that a similar line of thinking will be applied to other 40k races. I can see Tau getting a Barracuda, Eldar a Nightwing, Orks a Fighta/Fighta-Bomber which in each case will be treated as a fast or super-fast skimmer.

We will probably also see each race getting some kind of AA which will have comparable rules to the Hydra (ie negating the effects of skimmers moving fast).


This will allow the new stuff to be seemlessly inegrated into the existing Codices and will not need any new 'flyer rules' to be added to the core set.The next stage may be some flyer rules in an expansion or WD supplement as a test bed for a possible 6th edition ruleset.

Just my $0.02

So they won't really be fliers, just large skimmers.

I that will work much better within the rules as they stand.

The proliferation of AA units will weaken Tau and Eldar disproportionately, of course.

Kilkrazy wrote:So they won't really be fliers, just large skimmers.

I that will work much better within the rules as they stand.

The proliferation of AA units will weaken Tau and Eldar disproportionately, of course.

On the other hand, they're the sides with the best flyers, so those AA would be at their worst against them. Realistically speaking.

Also, I remember someone THEORISING/SUGGESTING that it could potentially be alongside a rules expansion (ala. Spearhead/Apoc) so flier rules could be in order?

This isn't even a rumour with any foundation of course, but it's still a thought...

Just Dave wrote:Also, I remember someone THEORISING/SUGGESTING that it could potentially be alongside a rules expansion (ala. Spearhead/Apoc) so flier rules could be in order?

This isn't even a rumour with any foundation of course, but it's still a thought...

The rumor for a fliers expansion has been going on for quite some time now, and is pretty much the reason we're having this conversation in the first place.