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Frazzled wrote:And thats why you'll lose Engleesh. No one drinks British tea here but hippy tree huggers. Tecquila > tea
Yes, we have had trouble shipping tea to our advanced staging areas due to the burger blockades surrounding your major transport arteries
And our internal arteries as well.
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reds8n wrote:
ChrisWWII wrote:
Excuse me! I have, like, a totally different accent from those people in, like, New England, and like Texas and stuff.
To your ears.
To our, clearly, more refined, cultured inbred lugs, you all just sound "wrong".
But it's not your fault, we understand and forgive you.
Except for the cheese in a can thing, some sins are so monstrous, such an affront to the very fabric of nature and naked morality that they can never be forgotten.
Actually much of California has very interesting accents. Don't get trippedup by the surfer accent. Much of Southern California actually has a Mexican or Central American accent. In San Fran you'll find a lot of foreign accents as well.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
You guys don't surf, your big hats would fall off and your horses, whilst well trained aren't that clever. !
.. yeah, I can pick up on different American accents, it's more there's only a few -- maybe New York, California way and "Southern drawl" -- that I would feel even vaguely confident of recognising or identifying.
I guess that's mainly due to TV/movies. It seems to work t'other way round as well. I once spent a great night out with a few septics and we bumped into two mates of mine, one who was a scouser and the other was from Govan region of Glasgow. We had a couple of swifties with them and moved on at which point my american guests revealed they ahdn't understood a single word either of them had said.
Which, upon reflection, is quite understandable indeed, a lot of british people would struggle with their brogue too.
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It's somehow comforting that this thread exists. Its topic, nay much of its content, was a key player in my internet infancy, so many years ago. It's nice to see that we've still not quite managed to reach an agreement.
I can normally pick up on accents from Georgia and Texas, New York and Boston, and rural and urban Canada, differentiating between the two in all cases. Otherwise I'm stuffed. Still, it's a fun party trick that makes Canadians surprisingly grateful. Bless their little cotton socks.
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Ketara wrote:I can tell a spaniard apart from a Frenchman. I can tell a German apart from a Russian. And I can tell an Italian apart from a Dutchman. Half the time, I can do it purely on phenotype. The rest of the time I can do it on how they dress, the sound of their language, the food they eat, cultural personality quirks and so on.
I can't tell a Texan apart from someone from Minnesota. Or a Californian apart from someone from New York.
Unfortunately, Americans all look and sound like one big homogenous mass to the rest of the world. You look the same, sound the same, and behave the same.
You're kidding right?
Maybe because you don't live around here. We have different accents and looks.
Actually in Texas you can tell who's not from Texas, and who's from different areas in Texas.
If you really think all Americans do the same exact thing, you need to come down here and visit.
To be fair, there is one predominant dialect found in popular culture, that most people end up assimilating. Even local slang seems to be found everywhere to varying degrees, due to people moving around, and the extremely interconnected culture that's developing.
Ketara wrote:I can tell a spaniard apart from a Frenchman. I can tell a German apart from a Russian. And I can tell an Italian apart from a Dutchman. Half the time, I can do it purely on phenotype. The rest of the time I can do it on how they dress, the sound of their language, the food they eat, cultural personality quirks and so on.
I can't tell a Texan apart from someone from Minnesota. Or a Californian apart from someone from New York.
Unfortunately, Americans all look and sound like one big homogenous mass to the rest of the world. You look the same, sound the same, and behave the same.
You're kidding right?
Maybe because you don't live around here. We have different accents and looks.
Actually in Texas you can tell who's not from Texas, and who's from different areas in Texas.
If you really think all Americans do the same exact thing, you need to come down here and visit.
To be fair, there is one predominant dialect found in popular culture, that most people end up assimilating. Even local slang seems to be found everywhere to varying degrees, due to people moving around, and the extremely interconnected culture that's developing.
I'm honest. I've met Americans from all over the place here at uni, from New York to Chicago to Utah. I can't tell the difference in the accents. I can identify, 'This is an American accent', but I can't tell regional dialects apart. You all have the same twang.
Interestingly enough, I can tell a Canadian apart from an American, but that's only because they pronounce certain words the English way. In terms of tone, they sound like Americans I tend to find.
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The_Savior wrote:Judging how... you British/Scot/Welsh/(insert appropriate racial/cultural term) claim whom you are.
I am indeed then a Texan, but let's face it I won't be a "Texan" in your eyes, just as much as I wouldn't claim for you to be British/Scot/Welsh and just call you European.
But I do call Europeans as their proper terms. I know a Scotsman isn't European he's a Scot, as well as a Welshman is in fact Welsh.
I just would like to know, do y'all give the same distinguished terms for us from different states of America? Or are we simply American?
A little history: Some Texans seem glorified, we were our own country at one point. And when we say Texan we take pride because we actually do stand out from the states; even if only a little.
(In before, Lolz Texan? Bush is Texan.) > Bush isn't genuinely Texan he was born in Connecticut and is of primarily English and German descent, and also has distant Welsh, Irish, French and Scottish ancestry.
Anyways... what I'm getting at is, do other people distinguish others all over the world or only in Europe?
I'd also like to note, I'm getting at we shouldn't judge people based on the majority and generalization of their fellow people.
I know we're all different, but just because we're from a certain place doesn't mean we're lesser or greater than someone else.
Although... some people would claim otherwise.
Europe isn't a nation. America is. Ergo a Briton, despite being European, retains his British nationality.
So sorry, you're an American in my eyes at least ;P Though I do understand how much Texans pride themselves on... being Texan... 'Remember the Alamo' 'n' all that.
And I'd like to think there has been no implication of supposed superiority in this thread yet
@Frazzled, regarding 1814...
Peace was already signed... PEACE WAS ALREADY SIGNED! It made no difference! Yeah! *goes and plugs fingers in ears*
The_Savior wrote:Judging how... you British/Scot/Welsh/(insert appropriate racial/cultural term) claim whom you are.
I am indeed then a Texan, but let's face it I won't be a "Texan" in your eyes, just as much as I wouldn't claim for you to be British/Scot/Welsh and just call you European.
But I do call Europeans as their proper terms. I know a Scotsman isn't European he's a Scot, as well as a Welshman is in fact Welsh.
I just would like to know, do y'all give the same distinguished terms for us from different states of America? Or are we simply American?
A little history: Some Texans seem glorified, we were our own country at one point. And when we say Texan we take pride because we actually do stand out from the states; even if only a little.
(In before, Lolz Texan? Bush is Texan.) > Bush isn't genuinely Texan he was born in Connecticut and is of primarily English and German descent, and also has distant Welsh, Irish, French and Scottish ancestry.
Anyways... what I'm getting at is, do other people distinguish others all over the world or only in Europe?
I'd also like to note, I'm getting at we shouldn't judge people based on the majority and generalization of their fellow people.
I know we're all different, but just because we're from a certain place doesn't mean we're lesser or greater than someone else.
Although... some people would claim otherwise.
Europe isn't a nation. America is. Ergo a Briton, despite being European, retains his British nationality.
So sorry, you're an American in my eyes at least ;P Though I do understand how much Texans pride themselves on... being Texan... 'Remember the Alamo' 'n' all that.
And I'd like to think there has been no implication of supposed superiority in this thread yet
@Frazzled, regarding 1814...
Peace was already signed... PEACE WAS ALREADY SIGNED! It made no difference! Yeah! *goes and plugs fingers in ears*
It aint over until WE say its over...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Ketara wrote:I can tell a spaniard apart from a Frenchman. I can tell a German apart from a Russian. And I can tell an Italian apart from a Dutchman. Half the time, I can do it purely on phenotype. The rest of the time I can do it on how they dress, the sound of their language, the food they eat, cultural personality quirks and so on.
I can't tell a Texan apart from someone from Minnesota. Or a Californian apart from someone from New York.
Unfortunately, Americans all look and sound like one big homogenous mass to the rest of the world. You look the same, sound the same, and behave the same.
How can you not know the difference between a New Yorker accent and the Californian? Just listen to Rocky Balboa if you don't know what a Brooklyn accent sounds like.
Ketara wrote:I can tell a spaniard apart from a Frenchman. I can tell a German apart from a Russian. And I can tell an Italian apart from a Dutchman. Half the time, I can do it purely on phenotype. The rest of the time I can do it on how they dress, the sound of their language, the food they eat, cultural personality quirks and so on.
I can't tell a Texan apart from someone from Minnesota. Or a Californian apart from someone from New York.
Unfortunately, Americans all look and sound like one big homogenous mass to the rest of the world. You look the same, sound the same, and behave the same.
How can you not know the difference between a New Yorker accent and the Californian? Just listen to Rocky Balboa if you don't know what a Brooklyn accent sounds like.
It's mainly because I've never had a particularly wide sample at one specific time. I tend to meet Americans on their own, or in groups of people from the same area. Not only that, its enough of an oddity that its not an everyday thing, so I don't have a fixed memory of precisely what the last person sounded like. All I remember is the twang that they all share. So as a result, I can identify an American, but not regional differences.
And I suspect I'm not alone in this. Someone from Berlin can probably tell the difference between them and someone from Hamburg. A Japanese person can tell the difference between someone from Tokyo and someone from Osaka. But to the casual outsider who doesn't interact on a regular basis with people from different regions of the country, they sound identical.
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Ketara wrote:I can tell a spaniard apart from a Frenchman. I can tell a German apart from a Russian. And I can tell an Italian apart from a Dutchman. Half the time, I can do it purely on phenotype. The rest of the time I can do it on how they dress, the sound of their language, the food they eat, cultural personality quirks and so on.
I can't tell a Texan apart from someone from Minnesota. Or a Californian apart from someone from New York.
Unfortunately, Americans all look and sound like one big homogenous mass to the rest of the world. You look the same, sound the same, and behave the same.
How can you not know the difference between a New Yorker accent and the Californian? Just listen to Rocky Balboa if you don't know what a Brooklyn accent sounds like.
It's mainly because I've never had a particularly wide sample at one specific time. I tend to meet Americans on their own, or in groups of people from the same area. Not only that, its enough of an oddity that its not an everyday thing, so I don't have a fixed memory of precisely what the last person sounded like. All I remember is the twang that they all share. So as a result, I can identify an American, but not regional differences.
And I suspect I'm not alone in this. Someone from Berlin can probably tell the difference between them and someone from Hamburg. A Japanese person can tell the difference between someone from Tokyo and someone from Osaka. But to the casual outsider who doesn't interact on a regular basis with people from different regions of the country, they sound identical.
Well Canadians and American (except New Yorkers and southerners of course) English is popular with people trying to learn English because we have no accent, unlike the UK.
corpsesarefun wrote:Americans have no accent? You are joking right?
Certain parts do, but most people consider Americans and Canadians accent-less.
Central Canada and the central USA. Canada has plenty of accents eh? Oh ya...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Canada has:
-French accent
-the Minnesota type accent
-the hard scotia type accents
The Toronto type accent though is pretty light, and frankly boring
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
If he means 'regional accents', then he's still wrong....
There are very definite regional accents in the States - to my ears, a Texan sounds totally different to someone from say, Boston. I can obviously still identify both as American, but they are very distinctive accents.
Ketara wrote:I can tell a spaniard apart from a Frenchman. I can tell a German apart from a Russian. And I can tell an Italian apart from a Dutchman. Half the time, I can do it purely on phenotype. The rest of the time I can do it on how they dress, the sound of their language, the food they eat, cultural personality quirks and so on.
I can't tell a Texan apart from someone from Minnesota. Or a Californian apart from someone from New York.
Unfortunately, Americans all look and sound like one big homogenous mass to the rest of the world. You look the same, sound the same, and behave the same.
How can you not know the difference between a New Yorker accent and the Californian? Just listen to Rocky Balboa if you don't know what a Brooklyn accent sounds like.
It's mainly because I've never had a particularly wide sample at one specific time. I tend to meet Americans on their own, or in groups of people from the same area. Not only that, its enough of an oddity that its not an everyday thing, so I don't have a fixed memory of precisely what the last person sounded like. All I remember is the twang that they all share. So as a result, I can identify an American, but not regional differences.
And I suspect I'm not alone in this. Someone from Berlin can probably tell the difference between them and someone from Hamburg. A Japanese person can tell the difference between someone from Tokyo and someone from Osaka. But to the casual outsider who doesn't interact on a regular basis with people from different regions of the country, they sound identical.
I can tell people from Shitamachi (downtown) Tokyo from people from the wider metropolis, but that's only because I know what clues to listen for.
The fact that I've never heard anyone speak like her two english accents does not give me confidence in her general accuracy. As an Englishman, she sounds like someone mashing together two stereotypes and hoping it fits (AKA, the 'posh' voice and the 'cockney')
And honestly? Bar the Brooklyn and Texan accents, which varied ever so slightly, I couldn't really differentiate between the others very well.
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As an American I can vouch for the accuracy of her Californian accent, and there is an EXTREMELY small but still audible distinction between the Californian and Seattlite accent. Of course, she is an actor, so she's likely playing up the accents for effect, but I have heard people from New York who sound like her Brooklyn accent.
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The_Savior wrote:Okay, on the 21 Accent video, that Texan accent is stereotypical like no one talks like that at all. Like, that's all movie and pop-culture dribble.
God, that's like a pet-peeve of mine.
But I reckon dat der woman, knows how we sounds like around deez hur parts.
Aren't you supposed to end all of your sentences with "Pardner"?
Northerners tend to talk fast, southerners tend to talk slow(hence the term 'southern drawl and the joke about the Confederacy losing the civil war because the generals couldn't give orders fast enough).
Different regions have different sayings too. "Turned up missing" tends to be a Carolinian kind of thing to say while 'dontcha know' tends to be a Minnesota or Wisconsin area thing to say, along with the phrase 'eh'. Yeah, you think that Canadians say 'eh' but its really the north mid west.
Brooklyn accents and Texan accents are easy to pick out, people from New England also talk funny.
Imagine the phrase "Park the car in Harvard Yard" being pronounced as "pahk the cahr in Hahvahd Yahd" or you could watch 'Family Guy' its all the same.
The people who live in the mountains also have their own accent, which sounds a little bit more nasally than a southern accent. Then there's the all important 'Valley Girl' accents, which is the best accent to use to mock someone.
Thanks to the military and mixing and training with Yanks, plus living in the US, I can tell them apart, I can tell NY, from New England, and valley girls.. and even Northern and Southern California to some degree.
But more importantly, I fething love cheese in a can.
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