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That's a tough call, Plat. The Timber Wolf is a heavy mech, yet can move faster and has more weapons than IS mechs of the same class! Going up to Assault class mechs means an almost-equal amount of firepower, but less speed, and going down to Medium means more speed and less weaponry.

Of course, this is me working off the assumption that Clan tech won't be readily available when the game begins - for all we know, pulse lasers, ERPPCs and Clan designs may be readily available!

It'll be IS tech at first, then the clan war happens. The clan war might be our pve though.

^ I've heard rumors of that in the MW:O forums. People are trying to think how the Clans are going to fit into the game. It'll be difficult to reconcile balance if some players manage to grab Clan tech early on, since at this point in the conflict it's hugely superior to IS tech.

Others were saying that a strict adherence to Zellbrigen could also be used if players wanted to go Clans, and any players who break the code would be stripped of their Clan tech.

I myself wouldn't want Leadership; I have proven to myself that I am not fit for such duty, and I want to go Assault anyway, not Commander.

infinite_array wrote:^ I've heard rumors of that in the MW:O forums. People are trying to think how the Clans are going to fit into the game. It'll be difficult to reconcile balance if some players manage to grab Clan tech early on, since at this point in the conflict it's hugely superior to IS tech.

Others were saying that a strict adherence to Zellbrigen could also be used if players wanted to go Clans, and any players who break the code would be stripped of their Clan tech.

My guess is that the clans, fora while anyway, would be essentially PvE enemies only-- they're only coming a year after release, and they want pve content ,so the clans are perfect for that.

There is an issue with "established" lances....

Not everybody is going to be online at a regular time. I know my online times tend to be all over the map.

helgrenze wrote:There is an issue with "established" lances....

Not everybody is going to be online at a regular time. I know my online times tend to be all over the map.

well then we can have irregular lances too.

I'll be online at specified times if required

Just don't make me pilot an assault mech. Too damn slow :( Give me a medium-heavy mech, and i'm a happy camper.

helgrenze wrote:There is an issue with "established" lances....

Not everybody is going to be online at a regular time. I know my online times tend to be all over the map.

I think that the established lances should more be a framework of "if these guys are online, they fight together" than a "you only fight with these guys" kind of thing.

I'm more of a nuker, give me a catapult or archer and I'll be happy. Having said that though, either medium or heavy mech would be okay. I've been playing both 3 and 4 in my spare times, and its fairly fun.

Well, I'm happiest in Assault or Medium mechs I think.

Hollander (the irony) is medium right? I'm not expecting to get my blood asp anyway.

I'm totaly up for the whole MW4 training btw.

Melissia wrote:Any heavy mech when its variant is designed properly.

The Marauder's standard was a powerhouse, two PPCs, two medium lasers, and an autocannon/5 (something for all ranges). But that's unlikely to show up for copyright reasons...

The reseens might, pity though as they look crap compared to the old versions.

Same with the warhammer, griffon etc.

I'm really tempted by the centurion if they have it and modding out the autocannon with a PPC if able.

Or if heavy mechs depending on era a Warhammer / catapult etc or dragon and again ppc the arm

ssaults are so spoilt for choice, awesomes, cyclops if there is some sort of command buff or ability, zeus, etc.

Platuan4th wrote:That's not a bad idea, i_a. Would give us a head start on learning the personalities and nuances of each other so that we can not only know what to except from one another, but also who meshes well to form the best Lance configurations.


Also, as a Clanner(albeit one whose clan deals with IS), I'm not too up on my IS mechs(I'm a bad Sea Fox who doesn't know all my merchandise). What are my options when looking for a Timber Wolf/Mad Cat equivalent?

I'd say go with this one:

Marauder MAD-3M
75Tons
2x Large Lasers
2x Medium Lasers
1x AC/5
20 Heats Sinks
11.5 Tons of Armor

There are other Marauders, but I can't find their exact dates of production so they may not be an option for you. if the customer for MWO is any like what they are saying it is to be, you should be able to swap out the AC/5 and ammo for some LRMS or SRMS and some extra armor.

Just another announcement: it's going to use CryEngine 3

Well, considering this is pre-clan invasion, I'd go with the RVN-3L.

Name: Raven
Model: RVN-3L
Tonnage: 35
Type: Biped Battlemech
Structure:

Equipment:

Armament:




Whoops, read the wrong entry for armor tonnage.


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I had a RVN-IIC designed at one point, an extra five tonnes, but with clan equipment and structure allowing it to pack four ER Medium lasers, an LRM5 with two tonnes of ammo, and a NARC with two tonnes of ammo along with the ECM, BAP, and TAG.


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Man, the arguments going on in the MWOMercs forum make YMDC look tame.

Ok, I admit I am not as well into the Battletech universe as I should be (Only have really read the Jade Phoenix series, Summoner for the win!), but I didn't understand ANYTHING you just posted, Melissia.

I mean, I know your name/callsign will be Raven, but after that....

Not quite..... Her preferred Mech is called a Raven.

But It would be nice to know everyone's Pilot Name so we can build the basis for our group through the games "friend" list.

Slarg232 wrote:I mean, I know your name/callsign will be Raven, but after that....

I'll summarize!

Melissia wrote:Name: Raven
This is the name of the 'Mech. Most Inner Sphere (IS) 'mechs have only one name, but clan 'mechs often have two due to the IS not knowing their real name before the IS' own designations caught on.
Model: RVN-3L
This is the model number. RVN indicates it's a raven, the -3L aferwarsd indicates it's House Liao's variant 3-- house Liao being the Capellan Confederation's ruling house. A "K", for example, might indicate Kurita, the Draconis Combine house. X would indicate experimental.
Tonnage: 35
This should be obvious. It weighs 35 tons. This si a light 'mech.
Type: Biped Battlemech
The Raven is a bipedal battlemech-- a 'mech that has two legs.
Structure:
A list of parts in the general structure of the 'mech. Most importantl, the Internals can either be standard or Endo-Steel, the engine can be standard, XL, XXL, or compact, the gyro can be standard or compact, the cockpit can be standard, command, or compact, and the armor can be any number of armors. Endo-steel skeletons are lighter but take up more space. Extra-large engines are larger but lighter, while compact engines are smaller and heavier (more dense), same with gyros. Cockpit sizes determines any free slots on the head and the capabilities of the cockpit, but is usually standard except in rare cases. Armors include standard, ferro-fibrous (lighter, takes more space), stealth (takes up heat but greatly reduces radar and thermal image), and a few others.

Spoiler:

-- Hellespont Type R Chassis
-- Standard Internals
-- Hermes 210 XL Engine (97.2 km/h)
-- Standard Gyro
-- Standard Cockpit
-- Hellespont Lite Ferro-Fibrous, 4.5 tonnes

Equipment:
List of non-weapon equipment. The communications system doesn't have an impact in-game, mostly just in lore. The ECM suite is "Electronic Counter Measures", messes with enemy radar, and can be switched to counter-countermeasures mode to counter other ECM suites. The Beagle Active Probe is a powerful radar that can detect most 'mechs barring an ECM suite. The Narc missile beacon effectively launches a magnetic tracking device which you and your allies' missiles can lock on to. The Target Acquisition gear paints a target for artillery or other forms of targeting.

Spoiler:

-- Ceres Metals Model 666 Comms
-- Ceres Metals Guardian ECM Suit
-- Ceres Metals Beagle Active Probe
-- Ceres Metals Guiding Light Narc Missile Beacon
-- Ceres Metals Target Acquisition Gear

Armament:
Weapons. The SRM-6 fires six short-ranged, high-yield missiles in one salvo. It cannot seek without a Narc beacon. This is in contrast to the LRM series, which fire long-range, low-yield missiles, usually in larger numbers (such as the LRM-20, which fires 20 missiles). The Medium Lasers are... well, medium lasers. The other lasers are light, heavy, and micro, with each increasing size of laser having more power, more range, but also exponentially more heat generation. Medium lasers are fairly standard armament.

Spoiler:

-- Hellespont "Harpoon-6" SRM-6
-- Ceres Arms Medium Laser
-- Ceres Arms Medium Laser

Make any sense now?


As for my pilot name, it's Melissia. If I had to pick a callsign, it'd probably be Blackheart or Kuromoi, depending on my mood.

Cheers!

I now feel stupid for not remembering the Raven Mech, and also for not remembering what Bipedal means....

So... is this MW4 thing which was mentioned before gonna happen?

The Mektek site is having issues. Been looking for another DL option.

Was having issues for me too, managed to get around it somehow with another link of theirs on Google.

http://www.mektek.net/index.php/home/articles/mechwarrior4-mercenaries-downloads-r1204

How do we reserve our Pilot name on the MWO site? Is it the same as our Account name?

I'd say why not try MW3, just played it for the first time, and it gives a very nice pilot view, actually makes you feel like your in the machine. I also love how much closer to Classic Battletech it is than MW4Mercs was, sure you have limited mechs and gear to pick from, but it gives you a well rounded choice of Cannons,Lasers and Missiles. as long as you play with just IS 3039 tech it should give people an idea of what MWO might be like. I had to say it was fun to run around in an Orion, or Bushwhacker, the weapons handled just as CBT would leave one to expect it to.

that and your meh can really suffer critical hits and heat effects, I never saw critical damage effects this extensive in MW4, sure it had some of the same things, but it was no where near as effecting as MW3 seems to make it.

As an aside, the silliness of the arguments on the MWO site is astronomical. "EVERYTHING SHOULD FOLLOW TABLETOP RULES EXACTLY!"

... including having every single weapon fire only once every ten seconds with no variation in rate of fire (anything with a high rate of fire merely fires in bursts once every ten seconds).

Is MW4 mercs any diffrent from MW4 vengance?

Melissia wrote:As an aside, the silliness of the arguments on the MWO site is astronomical. "EVERYTHING SHOULD FOLLOW TABLETOP RULES EXACTLY!"

... including having every single weapon fire only once every ten seconds with no variation in rate of fire (anything with a high rate of fire merely fires in bursts once every ten seconds).

Yeah, I already have problems with MMOs and recharges for certain types of attacks to balance and replicate RPGs, let's not go this route.

Platuan4th wrote:

Melissia wrote:As an aside, the silliness of the arguments on the MWO site is astronomical. "EVERYTHING SHOULD FOLLOW TABLETOP RULES EXACTLY!"

... including having every single weapon fire only once every ten seconds with no variation in rate of fire (anything with a high rate of fire merely fires in bursts once every ten seconds).

Yeah, I already have problems with MMOs and recharges for certain types of attacks to balance and replicate RPGs, let's not go this route.

Yeah, that would be silly, and would totally ruin the game for me....

Yeah. Some people are just insanely dedicated to battletech's tabletop rules, even moreso than 40k players often end up as.

If it ends up like that I'd probably not play it.

I can understand stuff like lasers having a recharge time, or perhaps a slight reload time for some of the more normal guns. But not everyone can only shoot once every 10 seconds...

I see I was right to avoid the forum section.

Yeah, probably.

I mean people are arguing, and I mean things like twenty pages spread over three separate threads, that aiming should not be a required skill in MWO. Which is .... mind-boggling.