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The first person to paint an Enforcer Dropship in Thunderbird 2 Green and sling one of those underneath it in Mole yellow gets a million bonus points!

 Vermonter wrote:
Oh, and the Aztec god's name is spelled Tlaloc, if that's what your handle is referencing.

It isn't, but thanks.

For what it's worth, the Aztecs didn't have an alphabet, so it wasn't spelled as anything.

For what it's worth, the topic at hand here is Mantic's WARPATH Kickstarter.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread is really lacking in pics!

I'm kind of surprised it really isn't being kept up to date 'real time'!

The thing is, how many pictures do you want me to shove up that OP? At some point it's going to make rather a bit of smoke come out of both phones and mobile data connections alike every time you try to look at that first page.

And it's not as if Mantic is putting out such a huge volume of newsworthy pictures compared to their usual tempo.

I've got to be honest with you, outside of a link to the project, I don't really check the first post much.

To me, its best if new pics get posted in the thread and the title gets updated - that's it!

That's all right then, you haven't missed much. Campaign is just a bit slower than mantic's usual, that's all

 Bolognesus wrote:


That's all right then, you haven't missed much. Campaign is just a bit slower than mantic's usual, that's all

Fair enough then!

I'm 'following' it here, not there, so I was just curious.

I still haven't been able to find the new Corporation concept art though...

Here you go:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:


That's all right then, you haven't missed much. Campaign is just a bit slower than mantic's usual, that's all

Fair enough then!

I'm 'following' it here, not there, so I was just curious.

I still haven't been able to find the new Corporation concept art though...

The Corporation concept art is in KS update #16. I'm too lazy to try to post it here using my phone but its at the bottom of the update with the Asterian art.

Ninja'd

That drill tank thing is silly. I know it is all subjective but what did they do? Rip out any drive mechanisms needed to turn the drill head so they could fit troops? I guess I am one of the guys who likes designs to at least be a bit realistic.

I may end up getting a few new plastic 3rd Gens, and would have gotten the Firefight book if we were going to get an idea of what it would be like (now I'll wait and maybe pick it up retail).

I'm just not impressed with the offering so far. I admit if you like the styling and don't already have a ton from DZ kickstarters there is good value, but it is only good value if they are selling something you want.




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 Paradigm wrote:
Here you go:

Spoiler:

Great start.

Where does he keep his extra rifle ammo?

Paradigm wrote:Here you go:

Spoiler:

Thank you!

That is pretty nice!

CptJake wrote:

I'm just not impressed with the offering so far.

I'm not impressed either but...

CptJake wrote:

...but it is only good value if they are selling something you want.

...well yeah!

Extra rifle ammo? It *is* a laser rifle, so maybe it doesn't need a lot of reloading? I don't see an obviously readily removable magazine either. Also, unless the magazine/battery is huge, he could have one or more of them stored in that pouch prominently featured right above his sidearm.

Didn't realize it was a laser. It looks like it has ejection ports so I assumed it was a projectile weapon.

Well I could be wrong, traditionally they've always been lasers on the GCPS marines, but that doesn't mean the concept artist drew a laser gun.

 Paradigm wrote:
Here you go:

But he will look like play doh when he comes.

Lol sour grapes there, they've done plenty of solid releases lately, MAA (what I assume you're referencing) are in the past.

If the Corp Marines look that good when they arrive, I'm throwing out all my old restic Corp and getting a thousand of these.

Corp look like that, hell, I'll buy some even.

It is a rarity when I will go out of my way to purchase actual human figures.

Damn that concept art is brilliant. Quite a huge departure from Mantics earlier cartoony style, which IMO is the biggest reason why so many of their sculpts have looked like gak.

I still like the original corp marines just fine and they'll continue to serve for a long time. But those new guys have a *lot* of potential, I'll find a place for both.

I'm also rather excited about combination corp/plague vehicles. I think that's intentional as a thing.

 CptJake wrote:
Where does he keep his extra rifle ammo?

Laser or caseless ammo magazine, the magazines stored in his backpack?

Either way I'd still love me some new Corp in plastic.

Even better, they can call the update when they release it Hard Corps!

You know, for hard plastic corporation... I'll show myself out.

 Gitzbitah wrote:
Even better, they can call the update when they release it Hard Corps!

You know, for hard plastic corporation... I'll show myself out.

You deserve to be BANEd for that.

 Alpharius wrote:

CptJake wrote:

I'm just not impressed with the offering so far.

I'm not impressed either but...

Penny for your thoughts, guys. I'm just curious why you're not impressed, or what it would take to impress you. Is it the designs of the vehicles / figures? The repetition of units from earlier Deadzone campaigns? Your favorite faction isn't featured? What could they do better?

There's not really enough brand new material yet to get me fully engaged, and as a skirmish / Deadzone player, the pledges and vehicle bundles aren't drawing me in. All of which I pretty much expected and can't complain about, since this is a KS for a mass warfare game rather than Deadzone. I'm just not the kind of guy who can whip up enough painted guys to make playing mass battle games practical, so right now I'm an add-on poacher.

Oh, and no more Aztec pedantry, I promise.

To summarize, I think the current issues are-
No revealed rules, and existing rules are reviled- HUBba HUBba.
As you pointed out, few new models besides vehicles.
Very interesting art teased- but a history of wild variations in quality from art to model.
Most loyal backers already have Deadzone armies- this is Apocalypse the kickstarter.

That concept art is nice...no confidence that it would be translated accurately in any given material.
It also doesn't really seem to fit the universe from vaguely following various Mantic threads. Seems more like something that they found on Deviant Art and thought looked cool.

No Blaine! Make him pick a side!

Difference in concept art can be seen on the asterian or corp question they raised. One an artist was given time to create, the other is a napkin doodle.

 Vermonter wrote:

Penny for your thoughts, guys. I'm just curious why you're not impressed, or what it would take to impress you. Is it the designs of the vehicles / figures? The repetition of units from earlier Deadzone campaigns? Your favorite faction isn't featured? What could they do better?

For me vehicle design is killing it big time. Bearded tanks? Giant drills? Sorry. Even the dropship is mediocre at best. For the price ist isn't bad, just not good enough for me to buy. No real new units/figures hurts too. I have all the figures I want from the existing stuff from DZ, and the hairless rat things are never gonna be something I buy, they're just way too silly looking, between the base design and the super soaker gunz and so on.

Rules wise, I was mostly interested in the Firefight scale of game, but no way I'm putting money into something To Be Written.

I think the Veermyn tunneler is probably my favourite think from this ks so far, I'm looking forward to painting a few up in yellow

 CptJake wrote:
For me vehicle design is killing it big time. Bearded tanks? Giant drills? Sorry. Even the dropship is mediocre at best. For the price ist isn't bad, just not good enough for me to buy. No real new units/figures hurts too. I have all the figures I want from the existing stuff from DZ, and the hairless rat things are never gonna be something I buy, they're just way too silly looking, between the base design and the super soaker gunz and so on.

Rules wise, I was mostly interested in the Firefight scale of game, but no way I'm putting money into something To Be Written.

I agree on the vehicle design except for the tunneler, which I'm excited for. Not a big fan of the Enforcer dropship, and the Forge Father tanks with the face are pushing that a bit too far for me, at least for now. (Iron Ancestors grew on me despite using the same ham-fisted reference.) I think if the plow variant is a resin thing you only get for buying three, I'm out on the FF tank completely. That version at least hides a lot of the face. I still enjoy the Veer-myn - I always found them absurd, anyway - although truthfully I'm more of a fan of the original PVC ones. I think the smoothing out that they received to make them easier to computer model didn't do them any favors. Should have stuck with traditional sculpting.

So far it's just the tunneler for me, unless Mantic do some one-of-everything vehicle bundle that makes the ones I'm less fond of cheaper (without requiring that I buy three of them.)

This KS kind of fails for me since I think I would be mostly interested in the Firefight rules and it appears that those won't be available in beta form anytime soon. Even if I wind up paying more in the long term, I think this is a case where I want to skip the campaign and wait for retail. At that point, I should be able to read reviews of the Firefight rules and judge this whole thing better.