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 themonk wrote:
The symbolic stuff is interesting to speculate.

The huge crater receiving the deposits of marines, orks, and nids suggests something different this time around- like something from the Eye of Terror? The gameplay images suggest a daemon world.

The quote by Czevak alludes to chaos (even though he's an alien hunter). He did study the Eldar Black Library and had in depth conversations with Ahriman. Czevak was an important figure in the 13th Black Crusade.

I took it as the Tyranids collecting biomass from the dead combatants.

 Laycas49 wrote:
The amount of ungrateful and negative people in here astounds me. We're getting a game we've been begging for since THQ went under and the license got picked up. The DoW I & II both only had 4 races at the start and the new ones weren't "DLC" they were fully fleshed out expansions that brought a new campaign, new units, and new mechanics each time. They finally give us what we've been wanting and people are already crying about how it's garbage. At least wait to see some game footage before you throw it under the bus.

Honestly I'm not sure why you're surprised by this. Video gamers are without a doubt the most entitled brats I've ever seen.

Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

Well, no. But they should at least give the game a fair chance to prove itself before making half baked assumptions and decisions about it when the game isn't even close to being finished. I mean, we JUST got the announcement, and already there's people adamant on not buying the game. I always hold my judgement until the game actually hits shelves and I can read/watch reviews to see if the final product appeals.

Melevolence wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

Well, no. But they should at least give the game a fair chance to prove itself before making half baked assumptions and decisions about it when the game isn't even close to being finished. I mean, we JUST got the announcement, and already there's people adamant on not buying the game. I always hold my judgement until the game actually hits shelves and I can read/watch reviews to see if the final product appeals.

Being a negative nancy is sadly the new hip thing to do. I'm not saying be happy with whatever shovelware piece of gak you get, but at least review the finished product. Or hell, if it ain't worth $60, don't buy it! Steam will have a sale on it 4 months after it releases

Melevolence wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

Well, no. But they should at least give the game a fair chance to prove itself before making half baked assumptions and decisions about it when the game isn't even close to being finished. I mean, we JUST got the announcement, and already there's people adamant on not buying the game. I always hold my judgement until the game actually hits shelves and I can read/watch reviews to see if the final product appeals.

That's just how people are. I wouldn't put much credence into people's first reactions to reveals like this even if it's positive.

 russian69hitman wrote:
Friggin' amazing! That makes FOUR 40k console &/or pc games coming out this year! Wow!

(In case you missed the others, here are links)

http://www.neocoregames.com/w40k-inquisitor/

https://www.eternalcrusade.com/

http://www.ign.com/games/space-hulk-deathwing/xbox-one-20020836

EDIT - DoW3 slated for 2017....

Another 40k game in May! That is 4 this year and a fifth in early 2017!


http://store.steampowered.com/app/373920/

It's typical, the reactions are the same in another forum I go

Melevolence wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

Well, no. But they should at least give the game a fair chance to prove itself before making half baked assumptions and decisions about it when the game isn't even close to being finished. I mean, we JUST got the announcement, and already there's people adamant on not buying the game. I always hold my judgement until the game actually hits shelves and I can read/watch reviews to see if the final product appeals.

Does the game have Tyranids as a playable faction? No? Then it will obviously be a burning dumpster fire(to me ) and I'll either wait for it to go on sale or just not buy it.

See how easy it was to judge an unfinished game?

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 SickSix wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Dawn of DLC will be SEGA's first attempt at monetising everything down to the purity seals on a 40K game.

Can't wait.

This may kill this game. 'Collectible squads' clearly indicates micro-transactions.

You want Thunder-hammer Terminators? That will be 2.99

You want Sternguard? That will be 1.99

You want a Librarian in Terminator armor? That will be 1.99

That's not enormously different to our own hobby though...

You found a rare hat in TF2 and sold it for $90 on the Steam marketplace? Enjoy our game and all that DLC for free, basically.

So when does this get released?

Would it be possible to look at the source code math?

I want to know how they can include the Eldar and make the game "balanced".

Loved DoW1, wasn't a fan of 2. Hopefully this will be awesome, was disappointed with the Gothic game.

I loved the trailer...2 minutes of pure joy

...it was then brought to my attention that there was no sign of chaos. now I'm sad

 ZoBo wrote:
I loved the trailer...2 minutes of pure joy

...it was then brought to my attention that there was no sign of chaos. now I'm sad

I'm hoping CSM will be in an expansion. I'm also very hopeful that if they are, they'll use new models that have yet to be released by GW as a base so we can get a sneak peek at what might be in store for the CSM model line. A long shot for sure, but I can dream lol

2017

Man - tough crowd for any type of Apple love... I knew I should have kept my old PC just in case. I get Space Hulk and Man-O-War :( Still have DOW on disk though

BREOTAN - where did you find that gif? That is hilarious!

 l0k1 wrote:

 ZoBo wrote:
I loved the trailer...2 minutes of pure joy

...it was then brought to my attention that there was no sign of chaos. now I'm sad

I'm hoping CSM will be in an expansion. I'm also very hopeful that if they are, they'll use new models that have yet to be released by GW as a base so we can get a sneak peek at what might be in store for the CSM model line. A long shot for sure, but I can dream lol

haha! I came to that exact same hopelessly optimistic theory

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
BREOTAN - where did you find that gif? That is hilarious!

That's from the gritty director's cut of Sound of Music.

I'm willing to put money on the fact that Chaos makes an appearance. Probably late game as the ultimate bad guy that you have to ally against.

 SickSix wrote:
I'm willing to put money on the fact that Chaos makes an appearance. Probably late game as the ultimate bad guy that you have to ally against.

It's not a warhammer 40k game if Chaos doesn't highjack the plot at the end :p

I'd imagine the "three playable races" refers to the single player, and the multiplayer will have Chaos, because of course they will. As for the graphics? I'm reminded when Diablo 3 first had screenshots out and a lot of people said "It looks like My Little Pony" (which, admittedly, resulted in a funny Easter egg in the game proper). I'm sure it'll be fine.

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 His Master's Voice wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
If they want the game to last it needs to be more DAWN OF WAR 1 style.

Dawn of war 2 since launch never had more then 90 people on at any given time.

I actually played dawn of war 1 the other day and there was 130 people online lol.

Dawn of war 2 followed the fail concept of command of heroes or what ever it was called that nearly bankrupted the company... it may have actually nver seen nothing from them in years.

You don't have to like DoW2, but don't make stuff up to prove to everyone you're justified in your opinion. The game was highly populated on launch and it still pulls decent online numbers.

As for 'command of heroes' I'm going to assume you mean Company of Heroes, a critically acclaimed, successful RTS that is still being played online in good numbers.

Honestly, it became clear after reading his post that he has obviously never even played an RTS, let alone looked at one. That comment was literally crap-posting at it's finest.

As for the game itself, maybe this will give us an idea....
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/warhammer-40k-dawn-of-war-iii-confirmed/1100-6273902/

"It may be a more digital free-to-play experience with all the depth and quality of a Relic RTS," Bilson stated, before going on to note that Dawn of War III's free-to-play status hinges upon the success of Company of Heroes Online.

"It all depends on how COHO does, and how it works and how people respond to it," he continued. "If they do, that would definitely drive us to…Now Dawn of War III, either way, is going to have a much larger strategic component to it, more of a global battle going on with little tactical things, sort of MMO-like…We haven't announced anything about it, and it's still in its early formative stage, but I'm just talking to you about the brainstorming going on around it."

Ask and ye shall recieve this was taken not to long ago both pick up some at night. Also bare in mind that all of dawn of war 1 and expansions run of dif server so they not on the same one. but dawn of war 2 are run on same server./

 jreilly89 wrote:

Melevolence wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

Well, no. But they should at least give the game a fair chance to prove itself before making half baked assumptions and decisions about it when the game isn't even close to being finished. I mean, we JUST got the announcement, and already there's people adamant on not buying the game. I always hold my judgement until the game actually hits shelves and I can read/watch reviews to see if the final product appeals.

Being a negative nancy is sadly the new hip thing to do. I'm not saying be happy with whatever shovelware piece of gak you get, but at least review the finished product. Or hell, if it ain't worth $60, don't buy it! Steam will have a sale on it 4 months after it releases

Yeah, and it is even worse in the nerd community. One of the most absurd example I ever saw was, when privateer press annonced that convergence would not really be supported after release, months before its actual release, a guy complained that PP were being deceitful because they didn't annonced it earlier (and the convergence were just officially annonced a few weeks earlier)

 jreilly89 wrote:

Melevolence wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Those entitled, ungrateful millennials! They should just eat whatever gak is shoveled in front of them by the game industry without even looking or thinking about it!

Well, no. But they should at least give the game a fair chance to prove itself before making half baked assumptions and decisions about it when the game isn't even close to being finished. I mean, we JUST got the announcement, and already there's people adamant on not buying the game. I always hold my judgement until the game actually hits shelves and I can read/watch reviews to see if the final product appeals.

Being a negative nancy is sadly the new hip thing to do. I'm not saying be happy with whatever shovelware piece of gak you get, but at least review the finished product. Or hell, if it ain't worth $60, don't buy it! Steam will have a sale on it 4 months after it releases

You're right, by Jove what were we thinking? Putting forward provisional opinions based on the available information that aren't 100% positive crawly bumlicking, it's a scandal sir, a scandal!

I still play DOW1 with Soulstorm, Ultimate Apocalypse/Tyranid/Daemon/GK mods. Still the best 40k vidya experience. Hopefully this can surpass that.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I will admit the trailer is completely kick ass and I the music is the best part. I'll be played orks till they add one of my factions I like if they ever do. If I get this. I have major preorder phobia unless its something like Overwatch which is an exception to the rule or something else.

According to the PCGamer article, they seem to be going more the DoW1 route on this one with the character advancement of DoW2. I feel like that means they will be adding more factions in expansions later down the line. I'd be absolutely shocked not to see Tau added. Not sure what your other factions are. I would be pretty surprised to see other flavors of Space Marines added, though. Well, you'll be able to repaint the army any color you want, but I'd be surprised to see TWC or Death Company.

Tau, Necrons, and Dark Eldar are my favorites with Tyranids in a distant fourth compared to them.

Edit
As to the accusations of whiny people I have too much experience with video game bs to be overwhelmingly happy. Why do you think I took up the 40k tabletop and mostly exited the gaming scene? There is an agenda in the video game industry to break games up as much as possible to eek out as much money from them as possible. Even if they're terrible and don't work. At some point 99% of games are not meant to be games but "platforms" for selling DLC. MWO is so terrible it charged people real money to use an individual color once and applying it once used it up. It's probably still the same today. I expected more from video games because we can look back to the past to see what a full experienced game was compared to the wretched milked and slaughtered cows of today.

Witcher 3 apparently can release as a big budget game with no DLC and more content than multiple game sput togeather at the same price as a usual AAA game. Then they start to make expansions for it and you have a high value. Or look at Overwatch by Blizzard as another prime example of a game with extreme value for the money and not asking for anything for more. New maps and heroes will be free for everyone but there will be some form of DLC eventually.

It's rare to get a game as a game these days. And they are getting more expensive than models with less hours in them. Order 1866 was outrageously expensive and people were beating it in a few hours AND it was horrifically bad. At least when I drop that kind of cash in 40k the models are high quality I get a ton of time to build them and they will be mine forever. I don't have to worry about servers going down in the future taking down a favourite MMO or an online shooter I love to play.

99.999% of modern gaming sucks these days and it's easily entering the dark times. It's becoming very rare for a game to be worth it. I'm even worried for Deus Ex Mankind Divided a Jimquisition video said that the console developers were all worried there wouldn't be the current gen of consoles and that it was a dying industry. So they came up with a half baked plan to cut up games into episodes and add the rest later or never if the game tanked. They put the expense and risk of a new venture on YOU the consumer. Hitman the 2016 one is the labour of that effort as its episodic. SquareEnix was considering doing something similar to Deus Ex Mankind Divided as well. And if this is popular they'll make it the new norm like DLC. Put the risk on the consumers hands. If the game tanks they lost nothing since they don't need to develop the rest of the game.

feth that.

Witcher 3 shocked the video game industry since its making tons of money and Skyrim. They didn't think 'stupid nerd games' like that would be popular or could be popular for a long time. Now everybody and their uncle is trying to make an open world RPG.

I wonder what would happen if a second video game crash happened? If one day the whole scheme just fell apart and they had to make games again? Thankfully there are a few developers out there that aren't so full of gak, but it's a rarity and they're coming for the old guard.

So exited! But why is it raining Orks?
Also, I really need to save up money for a new PC now. And given how much money I spend on other stuff it might be a few years before I actually get to play this (on the good side though, by that time they will probably have the bugs and dlc out)

I really want to see a movie of this quality.

Make it so!

The Space Marines in that video look a little gangly to me, like their proportions are somewhat off. Otherwise the video is quite cool, though I'm still perplexed by that Marine that runs into the Dread with just a chainsword.

I also find it funny that Imperial Knights are just EVERYWHERE now! They seem to play a close second to Marines in presentation. That shot of the Marine looking up at the sparks flying from the destroyed Wraithknight is probably the best part of that video.

Good times. Instead of moving the story line it just reinvents itself.

Makes for awesome games though!

Just read the PC Gamer article. This sounds like it makes Company of Heroes 2 sound like a dream come true.

I don't like pretty much anything I'm reading, aside from larger squad sizes. Base micromanagement is back, as is capture points. They're simplifying the cover system and making assault units counter cover.

It sounds like they're both simplifying the art design (really not in favor of this, as DoW2 was pitch-perfect in terms of subject matter friendliness) and the gameplay, and focusing on micromanaging a bunch of active-use abilities instead. What is the point of expanding scope of combat and shifting focus to active use abilities. I have never understood this or the obsession with tech trees/locked units in RTS games. Maybe the elite slots will obviate this by giving access to more interesting core options from the start of a match.

If they add an unbearably slow tech tree locking all interesting units, it could just be an alright videogame with a 40k logo. At least DoW2 nailed the latter art and character design.

I guess I'll see how it plays out. I'm actually looking at Total Warhammer more since it is more pitch perfect in terms of visual design.