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Shadespire its in fact a hex-grid game.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Mob Rule penalties for everyone. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.


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 insaniak wrote:
 Galas wrote:


Its not absurd, its just another way of apling morale in a wargame.

No, it's a way of killing more models in a system that already had to much focus on killing models over tactical gameplay.

While accepting that 40k is a game rather than a simulation, it makes absolutely no sense for failing a morale test to result in models falling over dead.

They don't fall over dead. They run away. There are lots of abilities you can use in AoS to mitigate the effects. Rerolls if the unit is near the general for example. I am sure some of the details will be different in 40k but it is a rule which makes you chose your battles more carefully.
   
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Shadespire pics from the demo:





   
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Yup, the devil is in the detail. Could be a good mechanic
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:

They aren't dying persay, it states that they could be fleeing the field of battle as their nerves break, or they become incapacitated through feinting or sudden panic attack. Or somesuch.

It doesn't matter if they topple over sideways, melt into a puddle, or wander off to recline under the palm trees sipping cocktails and chatting about the good old days back home... The point is that 40k needed more emphasis on keeping models on the board and having them actually DO stuff, rather than yet another mechanic forcing you to pick them up by the handful.


Usually Bravery isn't an issue until later in the game, or if you really get knocked on your rear. There are so many ways to nullify, or mitigate Bravery Losses that it's more clean than having to worry about whos' falling back because they got shot in the face and who's rallying way out of position.

Besides, we don't know if it will work EXACTLY like it. Hell, Commanders and the like might adjust the leadership/bravery of all units around them.

BACK ON TOPIC OF RELEASES.

SEE THOS LADY-CAST IN THERE?

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 Cleatus wrote:
Mob Rule penalties for everyone. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
most armies are still fearless so the status quo will likely be the same unless there is a lot more radical changes.
   
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Oh my! DEATHGUARD! I knew they were coming but I wasn't banking on them being here so soon!

Any chance they mentioned a timetable for that release??

I was very excited by the Kharadron release, but this... I've been wishing for a plastic 40K deathguard since 2001... I'm so happy! Please, please let us know more if they disclose more glorious Deathguard info. Thank you good sir!
   
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Unit cards? Hex game? This new GW just keeps on surprising me.

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 Carnikang wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:

They aren't dying persay, it states that they could be fleeing the field of battle as their nerves break, or they become incapacitated through feinting or sudden panic attack. Or somesuch.

It doesn't matter if they topple over sideways, melt into a puddle, or wander off to recline under the palm trees sipping cocktails and chatting about the good old days back home... The point is that 40k needed more emphasis on keeping models on the board and having them actually DO stuff, rather than yet another mechanic forcing you to pick them up by the handful.


Usually Bravery isn't an issue until later in the game, or if you really get knocked on your rear. There are so many ways to nullify, or mitigate Bravery Losses that it's more clean than having to worry about whos' falling back because they got shot in the face and who's rallying way out of position.

Besides, we don't know if it will work EXACTLY like it. Hell, Commanders and the like might adjust the leadership/bravery of all units around them.

BACK ON TOPIC OF RELEASES.

SEE THOS LADY-CAST IN THERE?

Spoiler:


Well I do hope this is the case the armor still does look pretty much the same which I like. The model is also a lot thinner compared to the stormcast using the two handed hammer.

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I guess the death guard return is another huge hint of a certain primarchs rumoured return.
   
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shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.

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 insaniak wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:

They aren't dying persay, it states that they could be fleeing the field of battle as their nerves break, or they become incapacitated through feinting or sudden panic attack. Or somesuch.

It doesn't matter if they topple over sideways, melt into a puddle, or wander off to recline under the palm trees sipping cocktails and chatting about the good old days back home... The point is that 40k needed more emphasis on keeping models on the board and having them actually DO stuff, rather than yet another mechanic forcing you to pick them up by the handful.



Yeah, maybe. Although AOS apparently plays really fast compared to 40k. I could do with some shorter games and I think GW has earned some of their credibility back over the last year - enough to let me trust them to make 8th Ed a needed improvement to the game.

   
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 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.


No no. Boring stormcast, Khorne guys, and a FEMALE boring stormcast.

Just for that I pay 80 €

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Female Stormcast I didn't think there was any restriction for women to become "Sigmarised", and I'm happy to see the first miniature! HUZZAH!!

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 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.


Those are my initial thoughts as well. Too bad really. Maybe there is more to it.

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 insaniak wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:

They aren't dying persay, it states that they could be fleeing the field of battle as their nerves break, or they become incapacitated through feinting or sudden panic attack. Or somesuch.

It doesn't matter if they topple over sideways, melt into a puddle, or wander off to recline under the palm trees sipping cocktails and chatting about the good old days back home... The point is that 40k needed more emphasis on keeping models on the board and having them actually DO stuff, rather than yet another mechanic forcing you to pick them up by the handful.



You mean like how you lose an entire unit if they're caught in a sweeping advance? It's pretty hard to lose models to battleshock in AoS with leadership 8+.

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Yeah I'm honestly not convinced on it, or the 40k rules hints. The latter really depends on implementation and they didn't give us much to go on. Nice that they're actively talking to and listening to the community and event organizers, though!
   
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 squall018 wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.


Those are my initial thoughts as well. Too bad really. Maybe there is more to it.


This is just the core set. I thought we had established that already.

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 TheDraconicLord wrote:
Female Stormcast I didn't think there was any restriction for women to become "Sigmarised", and I'm happy to see the first miniature! HUZZAH!!


There are none sigmar is an equal opportunity employer Josh reynolds has said some chambers are only single gendered or mixed and in the new stormcast battle tome someone said a war chamber has a pretty female name it began with daughters and I think the last bit was Arcadia? The tempest lord background is sigmar raising a whole noble house men and women.

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 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.

How much can you judge from picture. Card building mixed with wargame is a cool concept. The sculpts look very dynamic. As this is a core set I am sure more races will come. If the price is reasonable (under £40) and impressions are positive, I will buy it.
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:

They aren't dying persay, it states that they could be fleeing the field of battle as their nerves break, or they become incapacitated through feinting or sudden panic attack. Or somesuch.

It doesn't matter if they topple over sideways, melt into a puddle, or wander off to recline under the palm trees sipping cocktails and chatting about the good old days back home... The point is that 40k needed more emphasis on keeping models on the board and having them actually DO stuff, rather than yet another mechanic forcing you to pick them up by the handful.


Well, we don't really know what all changes they're going to make, so maybe other changes will keep models on the board for longer.

This change is trading have individual models break and run rather than whole units. Whole units was pretty cinematic, but I can see how this might speed things up.

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Now we just need some female chaos Chosen and not just the token Valkyrie in a viking faction (Valkya I love you don't drink my blood and use my face in your shield!

Just like in the old days of 5th edition where Chaos Warriors were mentioned as men and women of the north.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Daedalus81 wrote:
 squall018 wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.


Those are my initial thoughts as well. Too bad really. Maybe there is more to it.


This is just the core set. I thought we had established that already.


Have we? I have seen nothing to suggest expansions. If there are, please point me in that direction.

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Yup she is female confirmed.




   
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Chikout wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.

How much can you judge from picture. Card building mixed with wargame is a cool concept. The sculpts look very dynamic. As this is a core set I am sure more races will come. If the price is reasonable (under £40) and impressions are positive, I will buy it.

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I'm talking only of the asthetics obvioulsy. But then, you'll never let pass an occasion to blindly defend GW and AOS

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Down in the corner, at the right "Core Set"

Spoiler:

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Some more pictures from Spikey bits.












   
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 squall018 wrote:
Daedalus81 wrote:
 squall018 wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
shadespire looks bad, and consist only of boring stormcasts adn khorne guys.


Those are my initial thoughts as well. Too bad really. Maybe there is more to it.


This is just the core set. I thought we had established that already.


Have we? I have seen nothing to suggest expansions. If there are, please point me in that direction.


Edit beaten. So no more news for AoS? What about the shadow Aelves?

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gungo wrote:
We have very little info on it so let's see what they do to the bakillion leadership/morale ignoring rules in 40k to even worry about this new morale test. Odds are most of the armies will stay fearless, atsknf, stubborn, mobrule, or just ridiculously high ld9-10 to ignore this whole change.



ERJAK wrote:


The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.

 
   
 
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