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Mario wrote:

kronk wrote:Those doorways aren’t handi-dread accessable.

Aren't all space marine dreads technically for handicapped marines? Isn't it kinda… a prerequisite?

That’s the joke.

See also the Barbi dream house 10 years ago that wasn’t handi-capped accessible for the wheel chair Barby.

Well, I already discovered the greatest feature of all. The beveled edges on the interiors of the windows instead of flat surfaces means the mold lines aren't visible.

Ok don't buy one set of terrain, buy all sets of terrain and mix'em together. Double the price, double the fun!

The Mechanicus floor fit with the Imperials floors....that's amazing!

Wait wait wait. I noticed that the new columns allow walls to be added with 45 degree corners. Would that mean you could use the Sector Mechanicus corners as floors for easy octagonal buildings without all the hacking and sanding?

Oh I can't wait to start playing with this stuff.

 Redemption wrote:
The Mechanicus floor fit with the Imperials floors....that's amazing!

Wait wait wait. I noticed that the new columns allow walls to be added with 45 degree corners. Would that mean you could use the Sector Mechanicus corners as floors for easy octagonal buildings without all the hacking and sanding?

Oh I can't wait to start playing with this stuff.

I asked Ray this on twitter, sadly those tiles have one facing thats to wide for the wall panels, so without some cutting they won't fit.

I purchased both the Basilicanum (with the two statues) and the Sanctum (flying buttresses and statues) kits yesterday, and I'm really pleased with the quality of them. My other ruins built from the older designs, are partially made up of plasticard strips, but I don't expect I'll need to fix these new kits that way.

I also got the Forgeshrine kit, hoping I could use the angled platforms, and while the shorter exterior sides are compatible with the width of the ruin wall sections, the widest exterior side does not work with the dimensions of the ruins. You could fill in the gaps with columns or just plain plasticard, or you could create an archway using the two interior half-arches, but I don't think it would look good.

The one thing that annoys me, is that the sprue which has the double-width open doorway only comes with the Basilicanum kit. I've already predicted I'll need more of that sprue and I've had to buy them from eBay. I get why GW doesn't usually sell sprues individually, because why would anyone buy half a tank, but I think they should consider selling some of the terrain sprues separately.

 Zingraff wrote:
I also got the Forgeshrine kit, hoping I could use the angled platforms, and while the shorter exterior sides are compatible with the width of the ruin wall sections, the widest exterior side does not work with the dimensions of the ruins. You could fill in the gaps with columns or just plain plasticard, or you could create an archway using the two interior half-arches, but I don't think it would look good.

Are you saying the inside edge works but the outer edge doesn't?

'Cause that could work as a balcony then.

I made this illustration to show what I meant. Each side marked A are the same dimension as the ruin wall sections. Side B is too wide. The remaining sides are too narrow, but sides C might be half the width of a section.

Ah, I see. That's a shame.

Thanks for clearing that up.

The new ruins don't come with a parapet/balustrade/railing, unlike the older kits, so I'm not entirely sure how I'd re-purpose the floor tile for a balcony anyway, seeing how you need both parts to represent the supports for the balcony and a railing. I suppose you could use parts from the Mechanicus terrain range, but I'm not convinced it would look any good, unless you incorporate more details and parts from that range to even it out.

You could re-purpose the Mechanicus ladder with the oblong openings as a railing, which I think would work, as it's would look more understated than the ordinary Mechanicus "gothic slab" railings. You could also use the parapets from the older, oop kits, but I haven't compared the kits yet myself and I don't know how well they fit together. I strongly suspect that they don't compare well in terms of dimensions and overall quality.

PS: After some consideration, I find the lack of a parapet annoying as well. Without parts specifically designed to form the parapet, it becomes difficult to use the kits to design intact buildings. I mean, you could assemble them as in the photo I've attached, but I think it looks unfinished.

I'm trying to decide if it's worth magnetizing at least the ruined pieces so that I can change how they are configured. It would be really easy to do, and allow you to attach the parts at different angles and make different sizes or ruins in different configurations.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I'm trying to decide if it's worth magnetizing at least the ruined pieces so that I can change how they are configured. It would be really easy to do, and allow you to attach the parts at different angles and make different sizes or ruins in different configurations.

I wonder if you could get the sphere magnets inside the columns for this, or if they’d be too weak to penetrate the plastic.

Probably wouldn't be strong enough. I was thinking putting 5 disk magnets around the column on the flat part, probably the second one up from the bottom. Then put a stronger longer rod magnet in the part that attaches to that. You could do the bottom one and the next one up from the bottom to make the join better, but that's twice as much work/expense and probably not needed. It only needs to hold well enough to keep the whole thing from falling down I would think.

I don't think it would work to magnetize the wall sections, because you'd have to leave out the upper section of each column. There's a bit that's intended to crown the columns on the level where the skull frieze is, and it comes in differently sized versions depending on where the column is located. It's 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 of a column (you'd use a 3/4 on a corner for example). The upper part of this bit has a raised area which slots into the columns of the next floor, so you can't really leave it out.

How strong is the stackability of them? I know they can be, but it's not much good if they come apart if you so much as breathe at them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How strong is the stackability of them? I know they can be, but it's not much good if they come apart if you so much as breathe at them.

It seems pretty good to me. I haven't had any problems with my double stack set up so far and I'm mr. fumble thumbs when it comes to wargames.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How strong is the stackability of them? I know they can be, but it's not much good if they come apart if you so much as breathe at them.

Column tops and column bases have keyed interlocking surfaces so the more joined columns in the stacked pieces the more secure the stack.
I see no reason other than cost that you couldn’t have a complete four or five story building w/ individual, separate floors using these kits. More if you strategically glue some sections.

Such a complete structure with intact walls all around might not be terribly practical to game on though—even with separate floors, what happens when you have people on two upper stories and someone moves into the ground level?

Just been playing around with stacking my ones.

It’s not exactly ‘Lego fit’, but there’s a decent grip there that should take a bit of a knock. Provided you’re not massively clumsy, I don’t think it’ll be too much of a problem.

Here’s me mucking about with the stuff from the Kill Team box. And there’s still some small ruins I’m yet to build!

They’re all made following the instructions, rather than my imagination. Hopefully it’ll give folk some idea of just what you can do. I’ve tried to keep the component parts in the same location in each pic, for ease of reference.

 Zingraff wrote:
I don't think it would work to magnetize the wall sections, because you'd have to leave out the upper section of each column. There's a bit that's intended to crown the columns on the level where the skull frieze is, and it comes in differently sized versions depending on where the column is located. It's 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 of a column (you'd use a 3/4 on a corner for example). The upper part of this bit has a raised area which slots into the columns of the next floor, so you can't really leave it out.

I was just talking about the ruins, not the in-tact walls.

None of this is mine, but Marco Svizzero, instagram handle @heresy-era for more details.

Good use of the ladders.

That looks fantastic. GW has really stepped it up with these terrain kits.

Never even dawned on me to cut out the little doors, but I just checked and they are scored almost all the way through... almost like they were designed for it...

The Cities of Death doors had the same thing.

Does anyone know how well the new ruins fit on the FW Realm of Battle Cityscape tiles? I haven't found any photos of it yet.

I actually sent Forgeworld an email asking them what the footprint of the new scenery is compared to the old one and asked if it would fit in the designated building slots on their resin realm of battle.

The basically said they couldn’t promise that it would fit. I’m not sure if they actually checked, but I would measure this stuff out before committing to it, which sucks because I was about to buy that table from Forgeworld

Well, I suppose I could compare the new ruin wall sections with the old, as I have both kits at home (but I'm at work atm).

In broad terms, most of the building footprints on the terrain tiles are 3 (old) sections wide, and at least 3 of the footprints are also 4 sections long, the others are longer.

I'm interested in seeing how the new ruins might work with the "Primus Sector" footprint and more importantly the "Shattered Plaza" tile. If I remember correctly, the footprint on the "Shattered Plaza", fits a building 5-6 sections wide (or 7 as the link will show, but in my opinion it looks a bit tight).

 Brutus_Apex wrote:
I actually sent Forgeworld an email asking them what the footprint of the new scenery is compared to the old one and asked if it would fit in the designated building slots on their resin realm of battle.

The basically said they couldn’t promise that it would fit. I’m not sure if they actually checked, but I would measure this stuff out before committing to it, which sucks because I was about to buy that table from Forgeworld

Did the old terrain fit the Forge World tiles exactly? The old Cities of Death pieces were 40mm across, IIRC, while the new stuff is 61mm, so two new pieces should be the same width as three old ones.

 Zingraff wrote:
Does anyone know how well the new ruins fit on the FW Realm of Battle Cityscape tiles? I haven't found any photos of it yet.

This guy has some shots on the FW tiles with the new buildings:
https://www.instagram.com/heresy_era/

As you can see, some are a tight fit where the buildings are covering the sidewalk. I have the FW industrial sector, so I intend to mix the new buildings with the old ones, using the new ones for the tiles with a bigger footprint like the Shattered Plaza or the Primus Sector as you mentioned.

Couldn't find it earlier in the thread, but I've still got tons of bits and a couple of whole sprues left over from the old cities of death kits. Are any of the new kits compatible with the old COD?