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Made in us
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San Jose, CA

GW has always been luxury level pricing. They have been making an effort to keep the basic game easy for kids, but also hitting the right stuff for veterans(model, fluff, game)wise.

I had to mow a ton of lawns and not buy music or ammo to get my Squat biker gang. If you only buy the models you like(for whatever reason) then the only expense you really have is taste. Taste being subjective and an entirely personal choice.


It's as true now, as it was when I was 11. Now tho, I have a lil more cash, am a much better painter, have great looking models, and enjoy the game when I play with friends.


Dont complain how expensive something is. I'm not exactly in the market for a Lamborghini(would LOVE to be and aspire to tho) and while I might bemoan my current income, I do not complain that they're too expensive. A Repulsor is not a Lambo, but its place in the market is a similar one.
   
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator






Racerguy180 wrote:
GW has always been luxury level pricing. They have been making an effort to keep the basic game easy for kids, but also hitting the right stuff for veterans(model, fluff, game)wise.

I had to mow a ton of lawns and not buy music or ammo to get my Squat biker gang. If you only buy the models you like(for whatever reason) then the only expense you really have is taste. Taste being subjective and an entirely personal choice.


It's as true now, as it was when I was 11. Now tho, I have a lil more cash, am a much better painter, have great looking models, and enjoy the game when I play with friends.


Dont complain how expensive something is. I'm not exactly in the market for a Lamborghini(would LOVE to be and aspire to tho) and while I might bemoan my current income, I do not complain that they're too expensive. A Repulsor is not a Lambo, but its place in the market is a similar one.


Exactly.
   
Made in ca
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada

How "awesome" GW models are is because of their IP owned niche market.
Compare an IG/AM tank (~$60) to pretty much most mid level tank kits out there and GW is "garbage" in comparison for the price (More detail/parts at 1:35 scale which is bigger at $45-$65 depending on included resin, photo etch parts, metal barrels).

For fits and the look of models, Malifaux I find far exceeds GW but for a "normal" model you are looking at around $7 a model while GW normal troop models fall in around $2.50 depending on the kit you get.
The esthetic of "heroic" proportions are also a taste thing.

In the end, the market and availability of the models and players in general is why most people grit their teeth and spend on GW.

I would say a good counterpoint to them being expensive is that people are always selling off their stuff and I can get it really cheap.
It is so pervasive, you could potentially get the game for cheaper than all the other wargames if you are not afraid of shopping around and a bit of work.
The trick is, to get past those who feel their model is "pro-painted" that is badly in need of being stripped down and started over.

Time and money are truly interchangeable.
Badly made models for a few dollars here or there?
Break it down into component parts, clean them up and you have a "new" model.

A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte 
   
Made in es
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets




Vigo. Spain.

Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it (Unless they are like a well paid single adult with no childs so basically they have, for the scale of cost of warhammer, nearly infinite amount of spare and hobby money).

I personally love looking for bargains. Is not only the fact that you end up saving a TON of money. Is also an acomplisementh and is fun on itself. Thats how I have built like 3 2,500k points armies in two years for less than 700€.

If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in au
Huge Hierodule





 Galas wrote:
Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it (Unless they are like a well paid single adult with no childs so basically they have, for the scale of cost of warhammer, nearly infinite amount of spare and hobby money).

I personally love looking for bargains. Is not only the fact that you end up saving a TON of money. Is also an acomplisementh and is fun on itself. Thats how I have built like 3 2,500k points armies in two years for less than 700€.

If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.

Not everything is available second hand, or for a bargain, especially for popular units. Trust me. Sometimes it's a necessary evil.

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
Made in es
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets




Vigo. Spain.

I can understand that, TBH. I have also bought a couple of GW direct only items like Krell or some Made to Order.

But it is always a pain to do so.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut




 Galas wrote:


If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.

I hope this ain't a stupid question, but where ? Because FLGS price aren't much different from prices GW store has, and to get discounts you often have to first spend a lot more then what an army costs.
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






Karol wrote:
 Galas wrote:


If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.

I hope this ain't a stupid question, but where ? Because FLGS price aren't much different from prices GW store has, and to get discounts you often have to first spend a lot more then what an army costs.


Only time you are going to find new in box 70-75% off is ether estate or garage sales where the person selling has no idea what the value is, storage container auctions, or full business liquidations.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Trustworthy Shas'vre






 Galas wrote:
Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it


Time constraints. I usually order online at discounts, but sometimes you can't find certain things at retailers, while GW has them, so you either wait until it shows up online or order it from GW.

Some stuff you can only only order from GW or secondhand. Interestingly, Vaul's Wrath battery is cheaper from GW than buying the support weapons separately at online discount (functionally a 20% discount).

   
Made in it
Longtime Dakkanaut




 Galas wrote:
Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it (Unless they are like a well paid single adult with no childs so basically they have, for the scale of cost of warhammer, nearly infinite amount of spare and hobby money).

I personally love looking for bargains. Is not only the fact that you end up saving a TON of money. Is also an acomplisementh and is fun on itself. Thats how I have built like 3 2,500k points armies in two years for less than 700€.

If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.


I always buy at my FLGS at full GW price.
I play there, so it is only correct that i contribute.
   
Made in es
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets




Vigo. Spain.

 Desubot wrote:
Karol wrote:
 Galas wrote:


If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.

I hope this ain't a stupid question, but where ? Because FLGS price aren't much different from prices GW store has, and to get discounts you often have to first spend a lot more then what an army costs.


Only time you are going to find new in box 70-75% off is ether estate or garage sales where the person selling has no idea what the value is, storage container auctions, or full business liquidations.



Actually that one was from a guy here on Dakkadakka.


Spoletta wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it (Unless they are like a well paid single adult with no childs so basically they have, for the scale of cost of warhammer, nearly infinite amount of spare and hobby money).

I personally love looking for bargains. Is not only the fact that you end up saving a TON of money. Is also an acomplisementh and is fun on itself. Thats how I have built like 3 2,500k points armies in two years for less than 700€.

If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.


I always buy at my FLGS at full GW price.
I play there, so it is only correct that i contribute.


Thats different. I also pay full GW prices at my FLGS.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






 Galas wrote:


Actually that one was from a guy here on Dakkadakka.


Fair enough some people straight up unload stuff when their collection gets nuts.

but i feel like thats extremely rare for new in box.

you certainly can get strippers for 50-70% off quite often.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in au
Huge Hierodule





Spoletta wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it (Unless they are like a well paid single adult with no childs so basically they have, for the scale of cost of warhammer, nearly infinite amount of spare and hobby money).

I personally love looking for bargains. Is not only the fact that you end up saving a TON of money. Is also an acomplisementh and is fun on itself. Thats how I have built like 3 2,500k points armies in two years for less than 700€.

If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.


I always buy at my FLGS at full GW price.
I play there, so it is only correct that i contribute.

By being a good opponent and participating in building a local community and scene for your LGS, you are contributing.

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
Made in es
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets




Vigo. Spain.

I pay tournament fees in my FLGS, but I always try to buy something every tournament, even if is something small.

I don't buy EVERYTHING from the FLGS because screw GW prices. And I don't play only in one FLGS. But I'm friends with the owner so one always try to buy a couple of items each month. I try to balance my hobby money for all my FLGS's (Some with discounts, some others without), UK shops (Man paying Pound prices with discount after brexit is so sweet), Ebay, forums, etc...

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in us
Esteemed Veteran Space Marine



Sioux Falls, SD

 Galas wrote:
 Desubot wrote:
Karol wrote:
 Galas wrote:


If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.

I hope this ain't a stupid question, but where ? Because FLGS price aren't much different from prices GW store has, and to get discounts you often have to first spend a lot more then what an army costs.


Only time you are going to find new in box 70-75% off is ether estate or garage sales where the person selling has no idea what the value is, storage container auctions, or full business liquidations.



Actually that one was from a guy here on Dakkadakka.


Spoletta wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Buying directly for GW is something I can't understand why people does it (Unless they are like a well paid single adult with no childs so basically they have, for the scale of cost of warhammer, nearly infinite amount of spare and hobby money).

I personally love looking for bargains. Is not only the fact that you end up saving a TON of money. Is also an acomplisementh and is fun on itself. Thats how I have built like 3 2,500k points armies in two years for less than 700€.

If you know where to look you can find things like 450€ worth of miniatures new in their boxes, with the plastic and everything at something like a 70-75% discount.


I always buy at my FLGS at full GW price.
I play there, so it is only correct that i contribute.


Thats different. I also pay full GW prices at my FLGS.


One of the FLGS here actually sells GW at a markup from what direct from GW costs

Violence is never the answer, violence is always the question. And the answer is always yes.

 
   
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Been Around the Block




I don't get and never will agree with the " Don't complain about price " argument. I'll complain about whatever I want thank you very much.

As much as people want to say the price is fine, it really isn't and it is a put off for many who want to get in. Now you can be fine with it, that is your right of course. It is however over expensive and you can say its a luxury and you're glad to pay it, again fine.

Some will have to agree to disagree on that. Fact is if something is over the top expensive, I won't buy it even if I have the money ready to go. Lower prices would do a boon to the game, not a negative I firmly believe that and think they'd make up in quantity what they lack in single shot cost.

You'd be surprised how many of something people will get if they feel its a good deal and how few they will if they feel they are being ripped off.
   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





It depends what you want. Warhammer underworlds for example is a pretty reasonably priced game. Killteam and bloodbowl are both relatively affordable when compared to similar games like infinity and guildball. It is really with the two mainline games where the cost starts rising considerably. 40k is probably the single most expensive wargame to collect an army for.
One important benefit though, is that GW miniatures have a pretty good resale value, especially if you paint reasonably well.
   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut




 Desubot wrote:
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Only time you are going to find new in box 70-75% off is ether estate or garage sales where the person selling has no idea what the value is, storage container auctions, or full business liquidations.



Makes sense , although I don't with the only store in my city to be closed down.
   
Made in gb
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Scarborough, UK

I do hate how expensive GW stuff is. My current bain is the citadel paints and how cake filled the rim gets when you shake the pot and open it. There not worth nearly £3 for how little you get as well. I only buy them because of the cool names, which adds a bit more character to whatever your painting.
   
 
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