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 .Mikes. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
Carlos dropped into the Aus Infinity FB page on these rumours to blast us all for sharing fake news, and also to say the video is being released in around ten hours. That was eight hours ago
Tick tock tick tock..

Carlos is a troll. There's been no mention of anything like that anywhere else.

I will accept my apology in the form of modern dance.

No apology will be offered, I stand by my statement of him being a troll! That rumor has been going around for 3 days.

Weak.

Those Dakini though.

 .Mikes. wrote:
Weak.

Well, I have the ankles of a horse as well--so dancing isn't happening. As much as I'm sure some people would love to see me put down...

That said:
The models look nice. Ariadna is about what was expected, barring a couple of surprises. I'm personally a bit disappointed in the Ratnik just being a reskinned Blackjack--with a loadout that several people suggested to boot.

ALEPH as a 2 player set army still just feels weird. I do wonder how they'll try to play off the fact that they not long ago repacked the old Naga Sniper with the brand new Naga Minelayer model, clearly as a sales gimmick.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
Weak.

Well, I have the ankles of a horse as well--so dancing isn't happening. As much as I'm sure some people would love to see me put down...

That said:
The models look nice. Ariadna is about what was expected, barring a couple of surprises. I'm personally a bit disappointed in the Ratnik just being a reskinned Blackjack--with a loadout that several people suggested to boot.

ALEPH as a 2 player set army still just feels weird. I do wonder how they'll try to play off the fact that they not long ago repacked the old Naga Sniper with the brand new Naga Minelayer model, clearly as a sales gimmick.

Question is, does anyone even use the Naga sniper?
I have the old one since its release back in the day when i didnt know the rules that well and bought everything ALEPH. Have used it once since its first release, its just a profile that serves no porpuse.

Loving everything in the box exept the masiv hammer on the Ratnik. The scout looks awsom!
For me aesthetically the Vedict side is gorgeous and easily wins the box!

Bubbalicious wrote:

Question is, does anyone even use the Naga sniper?

Yep. Naga Sniper commonly found a place in ASA armies.

Loving everything in the box exept the masiv hammer on the Ratnik. The scout looks awsom!

If you dislike the hammer, boy you must have had some serious words about the machete on the Blackjack...

For me aesthetically the Vedict side is gorgeous and easily wins the box!

I'm intrigued by Vedic. They were one of the first factions to catch my attention and finally seeing them get some real love is grand.

Shame about my box of Dakinis though.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Bubbalicious wrote:

Question is, does anyone even use the Naga sniper?

Yep. Naga Sniper commonly found a place in ASA armies.

Loving everything in the box exept the masiv hammer on the Ratnik. The scout looks awsom!

If you dislike the hammer, boy you must have had some serious words about the machete on the Blackjack...

For me aesthetically the Vedict side is gorgeous and easily wins the box!

I'm intrigued by Vedic. They were one of the first factions to catch my attention and finally seeing them get some real love is grand.

Shame about my box of Dakinis though.

Played ASA as well, sold them before they became cool (Guess i became an Infinity hipster) never used it there either because SWC cost and there are better toys in ASA for the SWC.
ASA problem is that everything good cost allot of SWC

At least the Machete isnt stupidly big. The axe is easily the same mass as its entire leg

Started ALEPH for Vedict, got Greeks... Like them to but the cyberpunk feel of Vedict is what i really like


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So the TAK starter is

3 Line Kazaks
1 Scout BSG
1 Veteran Kazak (AP/T2 rifle?)
1 Tankhunter AP rifle



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It all looks so good!

And here I was on the verge of selling off all of my Ariadna stuff...

 .Mikes. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Carlos is a troll. There's been no mention of anything like that anywhere else.

Spoiler:

I will accept my apology in the form of modern dance.

'Ere ya go. Or is this an example of interpretive dance?


That Ratnik's hammer. it needs another Nope, still one more Oh hell, et cetera ad nauseum.

The ALEPH.
3 Dakini very nice resculpts. And one hopes, far easier to assemble than the current dakini.
1 Naga Sniper. Nice resculpt. Not at all needed. Or wanted.
1 Deva Functionary Hacker (?)
1 Shukra Consultant. Isn't that supposed to be spelled ( in English) Chakra? A fine looking mini.
1 Yadu Trooper. No idea, but I like the mini.

1 Wardriver as the LE mini.

Vedic , er, ALEPH Operations minis look nicer than the TAK. I'm guessing the Yadu Trooper is the box only mini, and Shukra Consultant is the Asuras replacement.

Those images do not reveal the terrain that comes with the box.

So glad I'm comfortable with passing this one up. It's not a knock against the models or set, I'm just happy to not want it.

Cool. I think the hammer is a bit overdone, but otherwise like them all.

Huh. Looks like its something for smashing mountains - like those are explosive directional charges attached to it.

That Ratnick...

If time travel is ever perfected, I'm heading back in time to purchase and paint an entire Ariadna army, just so I could toss it all out in disgust.

That is fuuuuugly.

Ratnick seems extremely polarizing, love or hate it kinda model. Hammer is kinda bad, but easy enough to cut down into a rage-fist. Hammer aside, I like it a lot. Has a lot of the same design notes as the blackjack without actually copying the blackjack pieces, if you compare them they have a lot of similar elements that are actually quite different.

I'm sure I'll pick it up, but probably be a long while till it gets built and played. Both sides are really good models, but not amazing enough to blow me away and skip to the front of my modelling queue.

Beautiful minis, I wasn't expecting that.

The Dakinis are gorgeous and the others are not far behind.

Ratnik steals the show. I love that he's not just a reskinned Blackjack, he feels very different. I find him a huge improvement, design wise, to BlackJack.
The only let down is his hammer which is a huge mistake but sharp pincers can take care of it easily!

Great job Corvus B.!



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New Asura (hacker, multi rifle) and Streloks on the way!

Does that mean Streloks are probably bikers with antipodes?
I'm hyped for TAK

 Kalamadea wrote:
Ratnick seems extremely polarizing, love or hate it kinda model. Hammer is kinda bad, but easy enough to cut down into a rage-fist. Hammer aside, I like it a lot. Has a lot of the same design notes as the blackjack without actually copying the blackjack pieces, if you compare them they have a lot of similar elements that are actually quite different.

I like it. A little more anime styled than some of the more militant releases we've seen lately. I'd been feeling like armies were starting to get a little too practical, but we've had some good high style releases lately between the Ratnick, the Kuroshi and a few others.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
Ratnick seems extremely polarizing, love or hate it kinda model. Hammer is kinda bad, but easy enough to cut down into a rage-fist. Hammer aside, I like it a lot. Has a lot of the same design notes as the blackjack without actually copying the blackjack pieces, if you compare them they have a lot of similar elements that are actually quite different.

I like it. A little more anime styled than some of the more militant releases we've seen lately. I'd been feeling like armies were starting to get a little too practical, but we've had some good high style releases lately between the Ratnick, the Kuroshi and a few others.

It really hasn't been any shift towards "armies starting to get a little too practical". It's pretty much been that either you get an empty fist or you get a random as heck useless CCW out.

Look at the Blackjacks and the first Kriza Borac.

New Aleph might get me back into Infinity... Have been waiting for an update to my Vedic army for a while.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Bubbalicious wrote:

Question is, does anyone even use the Naga sniper?

Yep. Naga Sniper commonly found a place in ASA armies.

What? No it doesn't... if you want a sniper a linked Regular (for sapper) is way better (or a BM for its MSV) and if you take Nagas at all and don't infiltrate them then you're leaving your Mech Deployed stuff up there potentially exposed. As already mentioned too ASA really suffers for SWC so there's no way you'll have the spare SWC available.

I have used infiltrating (TO) camo snipers for opening up highly unexpected firelanes before but in ASA there's no way I'd countenance it.

Why is the face of the veteran kazak purple? He looks like he's got Aleph skin...

 Riquende wrote:


Why is the face of the veteran kazak purple? He looks like he's got Aleph skin...

I don't think he has any exposed skin on his face that's just flow from the lenses in his helmet on his layered armour.

 Riquende wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Bubbalicious wrote:

Question is, does anyone even use the Naga sniper?

Yep. Naga Sniper commonly found a place in ASA armies.

What? No it doesn't... if you want a sniper a linked Regular (for sapper) is way better (or a BM for its MSV) and if you take Nagas at all and don't infiltrate them then you're leaving your Mech Deployed stuff up there potentially exposed. As already mentioned too ASA really suffers for SWC so there's no way you'll have the spare SWC available.

I have used infiltrating (TO) camo snipers for opening up highly unexpected firelanes before but in ASA there's no way I'd countenance it.

*shrug* Your mileage may vary, but I commonly saw the Naga Sniper make an appearance in ASA lists locally.

Why is the face of the veteran kazak purple? He looks like he's got Aleph skin...

Because it's not exposed flesh? Vet Kazaks have a full-on pseudo 'gasmask' under their helmet and they like to paint the lenses with OSL.

 Kanluwen wrote:
*shrug* Your mileage may vary, but I commonly saw the Naga Sniper make an appearance in ASA lists locally.

Seems weird to me. You gain a long range surprise shot or two and hamstring yourself in so many other ways (including up-close shotgun surprise shots). I'm sure some people do use it but not often more than once. The Regular Sapper has such a reputation as a powerful piece that I'm Acontecimentally Shocked whenever I see another sniper on the table. But I guess people can do what they want and see how it shakes out.

Because it's not exposed flesh? Vet Kazaks have a full-on pseudo 'gasmask' under their helmet and they like to paint the lenses with OSL.

Fair enough, I don't know much about Ariadna. Seems a strange choice to make it purple-looking though when the other faction in the same box all have purple-hued skin (I didn't actually think it was an Aleph imposter).

 Riquende wrote:

Seems weird to me. You gain a long range surprise shot or two and hamstring yourself in so many other ways (including up-close shotgun surprise shots). I'm sure some people do use it but not often more than once. The Regular Sapper has such a reputation as a powerful piece that I'm Acontecimentally Shocked whenever I see another sniper on the table. But I guess people can do what they want and see how it shakes out.

Truthfully, I think it sometimes came down to people having preferred the Naga model over to either of the two Sapper snipers.

Because it's not exposed flesh? Vet Kazaks have a full-on pseudo 'gasmask' under their helmet and they like to paint the lenses with OSL.

Fair enough, I don't know much about Ariadna. Seems a strange choice to make it purple-looking though when the other faction in the same box all have purple-hued skin (I didn't actually think it was an Aleph imposter).

They've done that a lot to be honest. Look at the Ratnik's "visor" as an example, the gold looks more like a Haqq thing than Ariadna.


For those curious, "strelok" means "shooter" in Russian--it's also the name of the titular character in the "S.T.A.L.K.E.R." series. I'm expecting a Scout styled model G: Synced with a K9 Antipode.

 Riquende wrote:

Seems weird to me. You gain a long range surprise shot or two and hamstring yourself in so many other ways (including up-close shotgun surprise shots). I'm sure some people do use it but not often more than once. The Regular Sapper has such a reputation as a powerful piece that I'm Acontecimentally Shocked whenever I see another sniper on the table. But I guess people can do what they want and see how it shakes out..

Probably also depends on local terrain meta. Here we tend to keep anything with a clear sniper perch outside of deployment zones, with the highest elevation in the middle. Sometimes an infiltrator can get a pretty commanding position that a regularly deployed model can't. Nobody around here plays ACA, but we do have some people that love their infiltrating snipers, especially on top of buildings that require 3+ orders to get to

Oh absolutely. I love a pair of infiltrating snipers covering each other and fondly remember wrecking a Marut with 2 TO Order Sergeants in ARO when it got shot in the back with DA ammo, turned to face and shoot, got shot in the back again with DA ammo and failed all 4 of the armour rolls.

But in ASA, where you can have up to two Nagas, they supply the highest WIP for ITS, so any Naga you're not taking with a KHD is giving up a strong scoring option. Second strongest option would be the minelayer, who provides a camo/mine shell game that can help break up the approach lanes to where you're potentially starting your Montesas and Peacemakers. You just give up so much to take them, and ASA have stronger sniper profiles. They're a fair choice for a "gotcha" tactic but beyond that... nah.

(I will admit that I might just pick up the old sniper if I can find it just in case I ever change my mind on this and don't want to end up buying the full starter).

However, whilst this has been a fun little diversion it is distracting people from being excited about the new shiny big box, and the Naga's travails in ASA won't impact their use in Vedic, which is after all a completely different force with completely different options/playstyle.

This is a hard miss for me. The Kazaks just look like generic army dudes, and the Vedic have lost too much of what I actually liked about the army. I think the only model in this set I really like is the Yadu.

I feel like Infinity has really drifted away from producing interesting and dynamic looking models toward more realistic and technically detailed but dull and bland models. There are still some occasional gems, but it used to be that I'd get excited over almost every release every month. These days its hard for me to get enthusiastic about models even for my main faction.

 Kanluwen wrote:
With yet another promised PanO goodie that never materialized: the Mine Dispenser.

I mean, after over a decade of Combined Army having all of our "exclusive" stuff taken by other armies (and often put on much better platforms) I feel like this is just fine.

 jake wrote:
This is a hard miss for me. The Kazaks just look like generic army dudes, and the Vedic have lost too much of what I actually liked about the army. I think the only model in this set I really like is the Yadu.

I feel like Infinity has really drifted away from producing interesting and dynamic looking models toward more realistic and technically detailed but dull and bland models. There are still some occasional gems, but it used to be that I'd get excited over almost every release every month. These days its hard for me to get enthusiastic about models even for my main faction.

Personally, I think that has less to do with the models themselves and the game/company. At least that's how it is for me.

 Kanluwen wrote:
With yet another promised PanO goodie that never materialized: the Mine Dispenser.

I mean, after over a decade of Combined Army having all of our "exclusive" stuff taken by other armies (and often put on much better platforms) I feel like this is just fine.

Here's the thing...
There's a difference between having "all of your exclusive stuff taken by other armies" and never getting something in the first place. The Mine Dispenser's concept was a thing specifically called out during the runup to N3 as a thing for Bolts that was going to "greatly expand their usefulness"--it never happened and those guys tend to just be there still.

And realistically, there isn't a whole hell of a lot CA that has been shared out that has been deemed to be CA exclusive as far as I know. Outside of one character for the Steel Phalanx, you're the only people with Plasma weaponry and as far as I can think of, the only source for SMART Multi Snipers. Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head with Vorpal CCWs either. Sepsitorization isn't exactly non-CA army fare either.

I can understand your annoyance though.

 jake wrote:
This is a hard miss for me. The Kazaks just look like generic army dudes, and the Vedic have lost too much of what I actually liked about the army. I think the only model in this set I really like is the Yadu.

I feel like Infinity has really drifted away from producing interesting and dynamic looking models toward more realistic and technically detailed but dull and bland models. There are still some occasional gems, but it used to be that I'd get excited over almost every release every month. These days its hard for me to get enthusiastic about models even for my main faction.

I really agree with this. There isn't a "spark" to a lot of the models these days, they're getting sort of samey in a way that's hard to pin down.

It hit me once, while I was wishing for a new Mirage-5, that these days it'd probably look more like the boring Devil Dog than the riotous and gorgeous Mirage-5 artwork. And then I found myself hoping it never got resculpted...

Show me the Asuras. (tomorrow?)

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:
Does that mean Streloks are probably bikers with antipodes?
I'm hyped for TAK

Not quite. The Strelok rides the Antipode. Kazak cavalry.

Naga sniper is a proxy for Naga minelayer or Naga hacker. Both of the latter minis hold minimal appeal. And the hacker is only in the Starter box. 2 Nagas ( one a minelayer), and a Montesa make for some fun hijinxs. Especially with the Regular sniper or Bagh Mari sniper and a Bulleteer, or even a Peacemaker.