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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Jack Flask wrote:
In case anyone is curious what "Death Fields Necromatic Death Infantry" means, imagine something like a combination of Quake's Strogg, Riddick's Necromongers, Star Trek's borg, and Darth Vader in a blender.

Basically, half dead warriors kept alive through heavy usage of cybernetics and clad in advanced plate armor with lots of tubes, wires, and blinky lights.


Did you suggest that? Cause i assume a few people voted for it not knowing whatever it means.


Yes... And hopefully many more join their ranks because it was tough to fit my whole pitch into one snappy title.

I agree with whoever said earlier in the thread that it would have been better to vote for short descriptions rather than just a non-existent kit's name.

Not Online!!! wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Does this make it so there was some kind of Hussars in each round of the poll?


Must sell hussars!

not gonna lie though, they always had the most dapper uniforms, and death field hussars would be something cool looking


I sort of hope (probably to the dismay of a lot of voters) that they would ride on some sort of hover bike or motorcycle instead of a horse though. I suppose I'd also accept some alien mount as well. (giant lizards? )

lord_blackfang wrote:
 Jack Flask wrote:
In case anyone is curious what "Death Fields Necromatic Death Infantry" means, imagine something like a combination of Quake's Strogg, Riddick's Necromongers, Star Trek's borg, and Darth Vader in a blender.

Basically, half dead warriors kept alive through heavy usage of cybernetics and clad in advanced plate armor with lots of tubes, wires, and blinky lights.


Also known as Warzone Dark Legion?


I mean, I don't know that much about Warzone and it wasn't on my mind so no?
Also my mental image is more along the lines of a sci-fi version of D&D Blackguards made by mixing the cool bits of some iconic scifi antagonists.
   
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Warzone Dark Legion had kind of zombies at their bottom rank and monster cyborgs with demon-tech at the higher ranks.

So not really.

 
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
My suggestion finally showed up, unceremoniously renamed from something like Build Your Own Killer Robot Kit to "Modular Robots" and I'm glad the editor had time to do that but skipped over yet another Death Fields Hussars entry


I suggested modular robots on Facebook, but I think your name is much better :-) Vote robots please everyone.
   
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Hah, then upgrade me to irritated for being deleted as a repeat!

But to be fair I just went back and searched for all the Hussars people were complaining about and here's the full list

Heat 1: AT-43 IP infringing Hussars
Heat 2: Polish Winged Hussars
Heat 3: 17th Century Polish Hussars / Heavy Cavalry
Heat 4: none
Heat 5: Female Hussars
Heat 6: Death Fields: Winged Hussars

So never more than one on the same day, overall a single repeat of the basic unit, one sci-fi, one female and the dumb one that doesn't count. Not as confusing as some claimed?

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Sci-fi hussars sounds great

   
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 Jack Flask wrote:
I sort of hope (probably to the dismay of a lot of voters) that they would ride on some sort of hover bike or motorcycle instead of a horse though. I suppose I'd also accept some alien mount as well. (giant lizards? )

Yesss! Crocodiles! Or leopards!

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Hah, then upgrade me to irritated for being deleted as a repeat!

Mine apparently was deleted too (even though it was actually original and I tried to do descriptive title)
   
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 Illumini wrote:
Sci-fi hussars sounds great


How about a box with one Hussar but with bits for making a male, female, medieval, Napoleonic, Steam Punk, Death Field or Sci version?

It's what the people obviously want.

 
   
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How about a box with one Hussar but with bits for making a male, female, medieval, Napoleonic, Steam Punk, Death Field or Sci version?

It's what the people obviously want.


If only you knew the effort I went to to make my steampunk Hussars....
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Illumini wrote:
Sci-fi hussars sounds great


How about a box with one Hussar but with bits for making a male, female, medieval, Napoleonic, Steam Punk, Death Field or Sci version?

It's what the people obviously want.


It could just be a sprue of feather poles to turn anything you want into a Hussar, you could even crossmarket it as a Ravenwing conversion sprue.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Illumini wrote:
Sci-fi hussars sounds great


How about a box with one Hussar but with bits for making a male, female, medieval, Napoleonic, Steam Punk, Death Field or Sci version?

It's what the people obviously want.


It could just be a sprue of feather poles to turn anything you want into a Hussar, you could even crossmarket it as a Ravenwing conversion sprue.


Polish Hussars have a pretty distinct look with their half-plate, several swords, a Roman-esque helmet and skin of some big cat drapped over them.

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My word. I just can't believe there are people out there going "you know what the world needs? Another plastic Hoplite set!" Same thing with vikings.
You could convince me if they put in the notes something original like "32mm scale" or something, as I think 32mm scale for either of thosev could sell well, but another 28mm set of Hoplites? Come on!

On historical forums do they sit around moaning about people submitting whacky sci-fi kit ideas?

"I can't believe they would ask for space cyborgs when there isn't even a single plastic kit for Piedmont Sardinian Napoleonics in dress uniform!"

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on historical forums they sit around moaning that people use 350BC models to field a 380BC army because they bought cheap plastic and want to make everything from it and that those people should better stay with scifi/Fantasy


so yes, there are some who think we need another box of Hoplites

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
My personal fave was "Celts but monopose so there can be 60 to a box"


Yeah, I chuckled at that one too.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
My personal fave was "Celts but monopose so there can be 60 to a box"


Celts were a proud, ancient civilization know for the uniformity of their armies and the close fit formations they used.

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Well seems like my entry for science fiction/space roman empire didn't make it.
   
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mruk wrote:
Well seems like my entry for science fiction/space roman empire didn't make it.


At least we have a shot at roman skeletons and roman goblins

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
mruk wrote:
Well seems like my entry for science fiction/space roman empire didn't make it.


At least we have a shot at roman skeletons and roman goblins


I guess it's closest I can get

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No, not at all. We are not the same company.


Hmmmm... Sounds like something Tony Reidy would say. I'm on to you!

So this has been good fun so far. A lot of nice ideas in those polls, if among even more junk of course.


I can only imagine what type of person might think some of that junk was a good idea to pitch lol.

 Jack Flask wrote:
In case anyone is curious what "Death Fields Necromatic Death Infantry" means, imagine something like a combination of Quake's Strogg, Riddick's Necromongers, Star Trek's borg, and Darth Vader in a blender.

Basically, half dead warriors kept alive through heavy usage of cybernetics and clad in advanced plate armor with lots of tubes, wires, and blinky lights.


I voted for the option before reading this, reading this doesn't make me want to change my mind, but the vagueness of the "pitch" (as well as a lot of the others) makes me wonder if this is what WGA would have actually ended up making if the option won the polling, or if they would have (like me) read the name and assumed something entirely different. This isn't a problem unique to your pitch, btw. Somewhere between 20-50% of the things I voted for (and many of hte things I didn't vote for) have this issue.

Does this make it so there was some kind of Hussars in each round of the poll?


At least one of those Hussar options wasn't for anything that most people wanting Hussars would consider to be Hussars, so I'm not sure if it counts.

Not sure if should roll my eyes at WWI Bulgarians or start a massive campaign for them.


Legitimately, I did roll my eyes, and then I said "fine" and voted for them.

I agree with whoever said earlier in the thread that it would have been better to vote for short descriptions rather than just a non-existent kit's name.


I think that was me - at the very least I implied it and then I think someone else outright stated it.

I sort of hope (probably to the dismay of a lot of voters) that they would ride on some sort of hover bike or motorcycle instead of a horse though. I suppose I'd also accept some alien mount as well. (giant lizards? )


I almost wonder if WGA would be able to find some sort of a production/design efficiency where they could offer both using a common sprue for some percentage of the kit, and then a separate sprue for the "Historical" kit that has horses and the relevant weapons/accessories, and a sprue for the "Death Fields" kit that has motorcycles and the relevant weapons/accessories/bitz/gubbinz for that. Based on their other releases I think its unlikely, as they arguably could have produced Les Grognards in a similar manner alongside a Napoleonic Old Guard kit. Mind you, there are design compromises that would come with this approach and it might not be worth doing it this way if it gets you two mediocre kits instead of one really good one.

Hah, then upgrade me to irritated for being deleted as a repeat!
But to be fair I just went back and searched for all the Hussars people were complaining about and here's the full list
Heat 1: AT-43 IP infringing Hussars
Heat 2: Polish Winged Hussars
Heat 3: 17th Century Polish Hussars / Heavy Cavalry
Heat 4: none
Heat 5: Female Hussars
Heat 6: Death Fields: Winged Hussars
So never more than one on the same day, overall a single repeat of the basic unit, one sci-fi, one female and the dumb one that doesn't count. Not as confusing as some claimed?


How many people did what I did and voted for the "Hadesian Hussars" in Heat 1, expecting that WGA had screened the entries out, etc. and that "Hadesian Hussar" would be Polish Winged Hussars (perhaps sci-fi-ified)? How many of those people then didn't vote for the other Hussar options because they were confused by what seemed to be duplicated concepts/options (as some others did when it came to the three Deep One/Fishmen options in one of the other heats)? I'd also be curious to see the vote totals over the 6 heats, with stuff like this its not uncommon that you get the most votes on day 1, and then declining votes over the next 5 days as people forget (or in some cases don't realize) to come back for the subsequent rounds, etc. Its entirely possible that Hadesian Hussars got the most votes of the 5 Hussar options despite the fact that nobody actually wants the unit being pitched there!

Yesss! Crocodiles! Or leopards!


Leopards would be ace, given their penchant for wearing leopard skins historically

How about a box with one Hussar but with bits for making a male, female, medieval, Napoleonic, Steam Punk, Death Field or Sci version?
It's what the people obviously want.


Yes. Just cancel the entire poll and do this. This is the only meaningful conclusion that can be drawn from this entire thing

If only you knew the effort I went to to make my steampunk Hussars....


Pics?

My word. I just can't believe there are people out there going "you know what the world needs? Another plastic Hoplite set!" Same thing with vikings.


You're right. Unfortunately I got snookered into voting for some of these options. I tried to weed out things that I knew already existed, but there was just soooo much on there, it wore me down and I definitely made a few mistakes here and there.

On historical forums do they sit around moaning about people submitting whacky sci-fi kit ideas?
"I can't believe they would ask for space cyborgs when there isn't even a single plastic kit for Piedmont Sardinian Napoleonics in dress uniform!"


TBH, I haven't seen any discussion of this poll/contest outside of Dakka. Hasn't crossed my news feed on facebook (doesn't mean that it hasn't been discussed in any of the dozens of facebook groups I'm in, just that the algorithm didn't think to show it to me). A quick browse through a couple other forums doesn't show much, doesn't look like theres any mention on theminiaturespage either.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Polish Hussars have a pretty distinct look with their half-plate, several swords, a Roman-esque helmet and skin of some big cat drapped over them.

That's very late, partially fantasy depiction of a hussar (and funnily enough, the thing everyone calls 'sword' is actually a lance). Now watch WGA do more historically accurate, longer used top hat/wingless hussars and everyone lose their frakking mind

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 Irbis wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Polish Hussars have a pretty distinct look with their half-plate, several swords, a Roman-esque helmet and skin of some big cat drapped over them.

That's very late, partially fantasy depiction of a hussar (and funnily enough, the thing everyone calls 'sword' is actually a lance). Now watch WGA do more historically accurate, longer used top hat/wingless hussars and everyone lose their frakking mind


Nope i'm pretty sure it's a sword.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koncerz

And in addition to this one, a backsword and a sabre.


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And furthermore, if there's one thing we know about WGA, is that they'll include every single possible head option that ever was, and the wings will be removable. So y'know, you can build your "fantasy" hussars with a cool helmet and wings, and "realistic" hussars with a hat and no wings.

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Those would be more the original 15th/16th century Hungarian Hussars. Everyone asking for "Winged Hussars", "Polish Hussars/Heavy Cavalry", etc. are asking very specifically for the Polish heavy cavalry hussars of the 16th-18th century (more towards the 18th century end of the spectrum. Its hardly a "fantasy" depiction of Polish Winged Hussars, thats what their actual historical panoply was (though the leopard/cat skin wasn't all that common/was an accoutrement of only the wealthier Hussars).

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Did someone say Steampunk Motorcycle Riding Female Winged Hussar?

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I swear I came across this by accident...

 
   
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And i'm uh, pretty sure, people who voted for "Winged Hussars" voted for y'know, Hussars with Wings, not a diffrent versions of Hussars that didn't have Wings. Hence the name.

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I was going to say, “Yeah but they do not have the Lizardmen yet.” But double checking just now I see they do, so thanks for the heads up. We will still be behind the folks in the UK but I suppose I should not complain too much considering the fair prices at Miniaturicum. I do like dealing with them.

Lord Marcus (same Lord Marcus as on Lead Adventure?)... the Spiders I got seem to only have the ability to have a “thumb” on one side. I noticed in an earlier post asked by another forum user that you replied they were supposed to have “thumbs” on both sides. Did that change?

For Gothic Horror other than Turnip, Osprey Publishing is putting out Silver Bayonet in October.

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How similar it will be to the Frostgrave line of games remains to be seen but I suspect folks will be looking for Napoleonic hero figures once it releases. I suspect WA Riflemen will be popular. Saying that, Lizardmen and Riflemen are on my current wishlist... so again thanks for the heads up!


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
And i'm uh, pretty sure, people who voted for "Winged Hussars" voted for y'know, Hussars with Wings, not a diffrent versions of Hussars that didn't have Wings. Hence the name.


TBH, I suspect that the "Female Hussar" pitch in Heat 5 was actually for the 19th century light cavalry Hungarian-style Hussars that were popular cavalry troops through the Napoleonic era, etc. Probably inspired by Nadezhda Durova or the early photo trend of women dressed in Hussar costume. Less wings and half-plate, more embroidered jackets, tall bearskin hats, and fancy mustaches.

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Heat 1: AT-43 IP infringing Hussars


As a huge fan of the AT-43 IP I am struggling to figure out where someone made the connection that "Hadesian Hussar" is from AT-43. The planet "Hades" exists in the AT-43 universe, which is a former colony of the UNA (where a worker uprising led to the existence of the Red Blok). But the Hussar is a Red Blok strider (piloted mecha), and already had a model made for it.

So... no, Hadesian Hussar is not a reference to AT-43. Most likely someone wants undead cavalry.

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So you're saying the Red Blok - who originated on Hades and are known as Hadesians in the setting - have a unit called Hussars? I.E. Hadesian Hussars?

TBH - I have no idea, someone on facebook said that it was an AT-43 thing.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Nope i'm pretty sure it's a sword.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koncerz

And in addition to this one, a backsword and a sabre.

No, it's not. It lacks edge, it's as long as the user is tall, and was only used to pierce in charge, never to cut. It's a lance with sword grip.

Dunno what you call backsword, a pałasz? I'd argue it, like a saber, is not a sword either

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
And i'm uh, pretty sure, people who voted for "Winged Hussars" voted for y'know, Hussars with Wings, not a diffrent versions of Hussars that didn't have Wings. Hence the name.

Except the last 3 possibilities were actually "polish hussars", "female hussars" and "sci fi hussars". See wings anywhere?

Like I said yesterday, descriptions were so vague people ended up voting for their imagination, not actual things, and it would be really funny if WGA did historical, not fantasy hussars and ended up with a s-storm on their hands...
   
 
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