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A. Its modified to fit better but is generally the same.
B. Hit a nerve did i, sorry man, id say no offence but people dont trust anyone who says that.
C. Me too, thats why i keep buying them.

Jerram wrote:
A No they don't where the same armor in modern militaries (At least in the US)

I am pretty sure the point was that they look similar enough that you cannot see the difference from a distance. Can you?

If you want a preachy feminist thread, go start one. This is for news and rumors.

 MWHistorian wrote:
If you want a preachy feminist thread, go start one. This is for news and rumors.

Or start a Sisters of Battle thread and give it a page or two

 jonolikespie wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

You mean the 14 years out of date version?


I have to disagree greatly though with people taking about problems with the story. As far as non-RPG, tabletop games go it is head and shoulders above anything else on the market imo.

Yeah, I do mean the old one. Being railroaded isn't based on a current rules set.

And no, I wouldn't say a self-defeating narrative is head and shoulders above any other system. Malifaux (as an example) is starting to get a little formulaic, but is still way less boring than the "big fight describing in-game rules and maybe killing off a non-statted or immortal/resurrecting character" trash that made me stop wasting money on PP's books.

Jerram wrote:

 HoverBoy wrote:

And females in real militaries do tend to just wear the same armor as the males. Boobplate is a fiction exclusive concept and its hard to argue it isn''t objectifying.

A No they don't where the same armor in modern militaries (At least in the US) and what a small number of women wore in historical times where armor wasn't designed with them in mind is irrelevant.

I tried to find if historical descriptions of war goddesses wore 'boobplates', though they were obviously works of fiction as well, depictions of the deities tended to mirror what real soldiers wore.

This image of Pallas Athene has which looks like some sort of small breastplate, though it may just be a thick vest. This Asiatic depiction of Minerva shows her wearing feminine kind of scale armour. Most depictions had no armour at all.
Although Minerva and Athene nearly always had helmets, shields and spears, their clothing otherwise was quite feminine and not very warlike.

Nice work, thanks for the references!

Backfire wrote:

Jerram wrote:

 HoverBoy wrote:

And females in real militaries do tend to just wear the same armor as the males. Boobplate is a fiction exclusive concept and its hard to argue it isn''t objectifying.

A No they don't where the same armor in modern militaries (At least in the US) and what a small number of women wore in historical times where armor wasn't designed with them in mind is irrelevant.

I tried to find if historical descriptions of war goddesses wore 'boobplates', though they were obviously works of fiction as well, depictions of the deities tended to mirror what real soldiers wore.

This image of Pallas Athene has which looks like some sort of small breastplate, though it may just be a thick vest. This Asiatic depiction of Minerva shows her wearing feminine kind of scale armour. Most depictions had no armour at all.
Although Minerva and Athene nearly always had helmets, shields and spears, their clothing otherwise was quite feminine and not very warlike.

So really all that establishes is that men always portrayed fictional fighting women in impractical armor since the dawn of time? I mean it's not like historically there have been that many women that fought regularly on the front lines.

Actually there have. Lots in fact.

Female martial orders weren't unheard of, even during the height of the middle ages. They certainly weren't common, but they existed and weren't considered super odd.

Norse, Japanese, Chinese, and Celtic cultures were full of women fighters. Women were fully expected to defend their homes and families. And many even went off to war actively.

One warning, take this OT feminist campaigning to its own thread, and leave the N&R thread for N&R. If you think Alpharius can be firm with the Infinity N&R thread, you haven't seen anything. Take it away now

Eeesh this is like the second thread in a row that i derailed by accident i think ill stop posting for a few days :/

Ha don't fret mate, it happens.

So Denny3 looks sweet.


Spoilered for size.

From NQ 60

She can take souls from models in her command range and put them on herself.
She can spend 1 soul to cast a cost 3 spell for free.
She can spend 1 soul to allocate 3 focus to a jack for free in her command range.

Def stats are same as stryker3/gaspy1.

Confirmed spells; gravewind, mortality, scourge, ghost walk
Feat is indeed she gains 7 souls. There doesn't seem to be a limit on how many times she can use the cast/allocate for souls abilities.. so yeah.
Focus stat is denny's usual.

Also the new Hordes book is called Devestation.

 Pugnacious_Cee wrote:
Unless it's a character I can put on the tabletop I'm not counting it. They can do all they want to with fluff-exclusive characters, they aren't who you take as the figurehead/leader/general/warcaster when actually playing the game.

Magnus sure, though. I did forget about him. Though his "switching sides" is a little gray considering he's a mercenary anyway. It's not like having a real main character from a faction change allegiances in game terms. Something like a Khadoran warcaster taking the old faith and becoming a warcaster for the Protectorate of Menoth.

How about where Eiryss has prime and epic versions as a mercenary, but then a third incarnation as a unit leader in the Retribution army?

 ImAGeek wrote:
So Denny3 looks sweet.

Spoiler:

Spoilered for size.

Who is the chick with the corset top and red power fist on the left side of that pic?

 Wehrkind wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
So Denny3 looks sweet.

Spoiler:

Spoilered for size.

Who is the chick with the corset top and red power fist on the left side of that pic?

She's a female Brute thrall, Lock and Load exclusive. One sec I'll get a pi
Here you are. She looks awesome too.


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Oh also (spoilered just in case)

love that new LE Brute Thrall model...
very Bride of Frankenstein...

Denny3 is coming strong!!!
i'd lose the tongue, and i'm not a huge fan of the worm look of the tail paint scheme, but that is big, beautiful beasty...

PP continues to impress with the sculpts...

cheers
jah

Wow, that brute thrall is pretty sweet. Thanks for the heads up! Now to find one...


Also, fascinating on epic Zaal!

 Wehrkind wrote:
Wow, that brute thrall is pretty sweet. Thanks for the heads up! Now to find one...


Also, fascinating on epic Zaal!

You'll just be able to order them on the webstore while L&L is on

Has there been any word about new HISP models? My TEP is getting a bit lonely.

The next round of jacks are supposed to be plastic, but no word on their release date. PP is having some issues getting them out.

Did this get posted yet?
http://privateerpress.com/iron-kingdoms/board-games/the-undercity

Denny 3 does look awesome - I wonder if that counts as a battle-engine-based warcaster or a collosal-based?

I wish they'd redo Denny 2 (and 1 for that matter) to match.

The brute thrall is nice too.

*** Undercity looks fun - but is a bit disappointing in terms of sooo many repeat sculpts. They couldn't at least do 2 variants of the guy with the knife? All 10 are the same.

Also - looks like they redid the Storm Lances as resin/metal hybrid kit. Making them a bit cheaper to collect, but not a lot. ($85 vs. $100). I don't see the point in the stopgap - cavalry is the thing they make most in need of a big price drop.

Denny3 is a BE I believe, not a colossal.

Denny3 is the single ugliest thing I've seen come from PP in years. It's *technically* well done, and I know there are people out there who like the design (obviously, or it wouldn't exist), but I can't recall a time in recent memory that I've been so immediately put off by a miniature sculpt.

Super Warmachine Undercity Explore looks pretty cool, though.

I got excited for a minute thinking I could get myself a miniature version of Vi from League of Legends, but the brute thrall doesn't quite cut it, being nearly naked and also apparently a zombie. Still cool-looking I guess.

Anyway, you really think Denny3 is the ugliest? There are things I don't like about it but I wouldn't say it was that bad.

I already know how I want to convert that Denny3 model if I can find some feathered wings of that size to go on it.

No mention of Hal3y's rules yet? Let's see what I can remember...

Prime Haley;
-Focus 8
-Reiteration, an ability that lets her cast one of past's or future's spells for free.
-Temporal Flux, a defense buff of some sort. Unknown if it's a spell or inherent.
-Domination spell
-Tactical Supremency spell
-Spend 2 Focus each to summon past and/or present Haley. Can't activate the turn they are summoned. Spend 2 Focus each to "upkeep" past and/or future Haley.
-Feat, all Haleys gain 2 Focus stat and 2 Focus.

Past Haley;
-Focus 4
-Chain Blast spell
-Raw Talent, all her spells gain an additional dice on damage.

Future Haley;
-Focus 4
-Revive spell
-Phase Bolt, sounds to be a gun that can ignore stealth

Past and Future can allocate to Prime's Warjacks. Unknown if they can Arc thru them.


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Oh, and a Stealhead character solo. I forget exactly what all he has, but highlights are Tough for Friendly Faction models within 3", Defensive Line for Stealhead Halberdiers in Cmd, he Flanks with Stealheads and gains 2+ Arm for being base to base with one.

Tactical Supremacy might see Trenchers make something of a comback, if they can drop their smoke bombs and then back behind the clouds.

The Brute Thrall looks like a lovely miniature, I'm going to have to pick Denny3 up for sure the model looks amazing.

Gotta remember to tac supremacy.