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chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah, the resins are otherworldly quality. If every resin kit was as good as ParaBellums, I would never want to work in any other material.

Whats the deal with the Brood of Omgorah? Is that a normal sized Wadrhun riding a small Apex Predator/raptor looking thing, or is that a extra large sized Wadrhun riding a normal sized apex predator?

Normal Sized W'adrhun riding a bigger-than-raptor sized thing. It's a special mount that makes a character Cavalry, so it's not too crazy size-wise.

I own several of the resin pieces (pretty much every resin released up to this point) and will confirm that the resin they produce is the best I've worked with to date spanning back to early forge world days.

It is truly astounding to witness the amount of quality increase over just a couple years. The initial starter set models are, quite frankly, not good. The details are soft as all hell to say nothing of the posing on certain items--abomination even makes my personal list of most comically bad sculpts released by wargame companies, landing it with such exalted items as the razorgor.

The modern sculpts, on the other hand, are more or less unrecognizable. The rapidity of improvement is insane.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I noticed all the Old Dominion heroes are plastic kits. No resin stuff. Interesting.

Hopefully it will be a new standard for all future releases.

I kinda disagree on that, but only because their resins are so bloody good.

They are transitioning to full plastic, as the increasing costs of resin are making it unsustainable outside of limited collectors stuff. I agree it is a shame since their resin is something else, but that's the world sometimes.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It is truly astounding to witness the amount of quality increase over just a couple years.

I think their weakest line is the human stuff, particularly whatever they call the Empire looking faction(s). The arms almost always seem too skinny or too long for the rest of the model, like its a different scale.

With that said, their dino's and other animals are usually amazing. Getting a Grinch Stole Christmas(Jim Carrey's version) vibe from the raptor rider's face on the previous page though.

The arms almost always seem too skinny or too long for the rest of the model, like its a different scale.

Neophyte's arms come to mind.

Hellbringer Drake is up on the e-shop

I really like those undead legionaries.
On one hand I don't want another undead army (Necrons), but on the other hand that Eastern Roman Empire aesthetic looks great and unique.

Bone golems look goofy, imo, they're like budget dreadnaughts. The Dominion characters are fine and the ghosts look neat.

Helldrake looks too much like a fisher price toy, sorry :/
The paint schemes are getting better at least.

The Magic Retinue are basically Pillar Men, which made me chuckle.
Apply gloss varnish to them to get the well oiled abs look.

The Brood looks really nice. I think it's a good sculpt.

Fischer price toy? Don't look at the abomination

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Fischer price toy? Don't look at the abomination

Yeah that isn't great either :/
Come to think of it, have they released a decent looking large monster?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Fischer price toy? Don't look at the abomination

Yeah that isn't great either :/
Come to think of it, have they released a decent looking large monster?

Oh ok. Fair enough
That is some good facial detail, and the painter did a good job on the eyes.

Apex Predator is the best T-Rex mini on the market right now, all things considered.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Come to think of it, have they released a decent looking large monster?

Mountain Jotnar is IMO still the best looking one. As a bonus he looks good if used in other games too.

That's a pretty awesome giant. It would make for a great rpg pc barbarian as well shrunk down (obviously with a different paint scheme unless of course you're playing a swole papa smurf whose been hitting the juice!). Not really possible with traditional kits vs 3d printing but regardless that is very nicely done.

Ice Giant was done by M. Kontraros - also available on his website (limited, actually cheaper :-))
The sculpt is triple A+, but not much is giving away that it is a giant.
A lot on him is “his” size (skulls etc). There are some smaller skulls on the other hip that give it away.
The ice crystals do make him magical, but if shrunk down to 38mm, he’d still ‘work’.

Would love to see some heroes (Einherjer anyone) from this sculptor though.
Like his muscles and proportions; a lot better than on most of the Nord sculpts imo.

Seneca_42 wrote:
Ice Giant was done by M. Kontraros - also available on his website (limited, actually cheaper :-))
The sculpt is triple A+, but not much is giving away that it is a giant.
A lot on him is “his” size (skulls etc). There are some smaller skulls on the other hip that give it away.
The ice crystals do make him magical, but if shrunk down to 38mm, he’d still ‘work’.

Would love to see some heroes (Einherjer anyone) from this sculptor though.
Like his muscles and proportions; a lot better than on most of the Nord sculpts imo.

Its cheaper because it is in a different scale. The Conquest one is 15cm tall!

Here are all the monsters they have released from oldest to newest.

I don't mind the Abomination much myself. Some of the early plastics in general though are pretty dire in comparison to what they've produced since; the 100 Kingdoms stuff in the starter set is a pain to build, has some rough, rough posing and mould lines for days (the Household Knights are an exception IMO). Some of the Nords and Dweghom have similar issues, especially when it comes to the posing. Genuinely wouldn't mind them taking another pass at stuff like the Men at Arms given how good their later kits have been.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Genuinely wouldn't mind them taking another pass at stuff like the Men at Arms given how good their later kits have been.

They said that they have plans to revisit older models but I guess it will not happened until Conquest has a stable position on the market.

Honestly - i don't really mind the Abomination, it looks alright to me, i just think the pose is kinda awkward.

Sasorijap wrote:
Here are all the monsters they have released from oldest to newest.

You can really tell that their sculpts have been improving.
Even the helldrake has some nice detail on it, even though the overall design isn't great.
The Apex and the Frost Giant looks great though. I'm warming up to the Wa'ah drun, those dinos are nice.

I hope the Helldrake is as much of a joy to build as the Apex Predator was. I built one for a local stores demo army with no intention of ever playing Wadrhun myself, but ever since building the Predator I've been wanting to start my own Wadrhun force just as an excuse to build a few more of those dinos.

IMO, the problem with the abomination is principally that its a pain in the ass to assemble, the plastic itself is awful cheap crap, and the details are soft, muddy, and indistinct (meaning you got to do a lot of work in painting to make it look good). Yes, the posing is a bit stiff and awkward, but its forgiveable and not something you'll notice unless you're looking for it.

An interesting theory but it's all the same plastic from the same manufacturer. The detail and construction of the models has definitely improved exponentially though.

I write like the old Abom though. It's the fact thag it's all ball joint makes it a pain. You have to be very patient and not try to glue it all together in one go as it sags under its own weight. A few lines at a time though and you can get some ace poses.

Err... its actually not the same plastic from the same manufacturer. Para Bellum has worked with several different plastics manufacturing partners since they launched, thats why the runners have evolved from being circular to trapezoidal over time, as well as the fact that the density of the plastic has changed as well. Also why early kits (like Abominations) said "Made in the USA" while more recent kits (like the Apex Pred) say "Made in Poland - EU" - plastic mixes are usually proprietary, in this case its two completely different plastics factories on two completely different continents.

Sasorijap wrote:
Here are all the monsters they have released from oldest to newest.

There is a bit of a mix-up, as the Hellbringer sculpt was actually done before the Ice Jotnar, but was delayed due to some factory troubles. So while the release date order is correct the design order would put the drake after the mountain Jotnar.

Sculpt being done doesn't necessarily correlate to the tooling engineering process though. In large part, the problem with older kits isn't a result of poor sculpting, its a problem with poor tooling engineering. So depending on circumstances, while the Heldrake may have been sculpted prior to the ice jotnar (which is resin anyway IIRC? if so it would have a faster manufacturing turnaround time), it may not have gone into tooling until after the apex predator did.

I've been looking at Conquest stuff for a while now. The comments on resin quality here pushed me over the edge and I bought The Brood of Omgorah.

I will eventually pick up an Apex Predator as well, and then I'll probably try and figure out what I need to actually play. The most important thing for now is that I'm getting dinosaur cavalry.

Incidentally: are the rules going through some sort of an update? All the First Blood boxes have disappeared - as have most of the warband boxes.

The rules are living and are updated frequently.

We are currently on 1.5.1.

First Blood is also being re-written and is being playtested right now along with Old Dominion.

First Blood is supposed to be less like the main game and more its own thing going forward.

The guns on the dwarf monster are godawful, they're proportioned like real-firing nerf missiles on action figure tanks.

So the fish gnomes... that was just a drawn out troll?

Not sure how drawn out the fish gnomes were/are. They were an April Fools joke and the staff has never seemed very keen on the idea of actually making them. The community keeps it alive because a lot of people really like the idea but that's pretty much it.