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I got mine, just the main pledge and the dragon expansion, plus the basic expansion everyone got.
If you want pics, just say what.

Sadly some bits missing, lots of bits missing from the other half's pledge.

2 wounds is correct I think. Certainly some old WIP documents I have all have them with two wounds.

Yeah, looks like living things have two wounds, while dead things need lots of hits at once to kill

Only goblins have two wounds, orcs dont.

Orcs do though. The green rage rule effectively encompasses the two wound rule. If they take the first "wound", they get the rage bonus. Second "wound", they die.

Very well. I stand corrected.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Sadly some bits missing, lots of bits missing from the other half's pledge.

I'd be interested to see Tyrant King Blaine, if it's not a bother (assembled, unassembled, whatever is fine) and a nice shot of a mawbeast would be cool. I have mawbeasts in PVC and metal and would be curious to see how they came out in the Dungeon Saga set.

What is the plastic material like, is it hard plastic or heat-and-repose plastic resin.

 Orlanth wrote:
What is the plastic material like, is it hard plastic or heat-and-repose plastic resin.

Should be PVC.

Got my stuff, here's a pic of everything you get in the basic pledge level:



The orclings are my favourite models, they look brilliant.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
What is the plastic material like, is it hard plastic or heat-and-repose plastic resin.

Should be PVC.

Is PVC reposable?

If it's the same as the Mars attacks stuff then yes, it should be.

Glad to see this is shipping. I was a late backer so I don't get the updates in an email. The boat for us US backers seems to be just outside of Japan currently headed to LA. We will see if this lands before my KOW2 missing pledge.

 Theophony wrote:
Glad to see this is shipping. I was a late backer so I don't get the updates in an email. The boat for us US backers seems to be just outside of Japan currently headed to LA. We will see if this lands before my KOW2 missing pledge.

I'm in the same boat, so to speak. My pledge for KoW never arrived (the add ons did though!) and one of the recent KoW updates now says they have to reorder a bunch of stuff for us folks who done got our pledge "disappeared". As much as I want to really like Mantic, this stuff gets old...

So yes, now it's a race between KoW and DS (then of course will my DS pledge be missing things too?!?)

Well, it's not like my hobby needs aren't being met by a bunch of other games, so I reckon it's not the end of the world.

I dont get emails either.

While Mantic say dont call about deliveries until 7th December, as I am not on the formal shipping and email list I am concerned I might get overlooked.

I screwed up my own shipping location, sent them an email apologizing, they've told me my package was found and it will be delivered as soon as they can. Being as it was my screw up, I can wait until I get it.

 Orlanth wrote:
I dont get emails either.

While Mantic say dont call about deliveries until 7th December, as I am not on the formal shipping and email list I am concerned I might get overlooked.

I late backed KoW and even with a very large order I was forgotten about until I kept prodding them. Hopefully you don't get the same treatment.

 Alex C wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
I dont get emails either.

While Mantic say dont call about deliveries until 7th December, as I am not on the formal shipping and email list I am concerned I might get overlooked.

I late backed KoW and even with a very large order I was forgotten about until I kept prodding them. Hopefully you don't get the same treatment.

Not good to hear since i'm on their "List" already and I seriously would get more P.O. if they botched this KS also.

 Theophony wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
I dont get emails either.

While Mantic say dont call about deliveries until 7th December, as I am not on the formal shipping and email list I am concerned I might get overlooked.

I late backed KoW and even with a very large order I was forgotten about until I kept prodding them. Hopefully you don't get the same treatment.

Not good to hear since i'm on their "List" already and I seriously would get more P.O. if they botched this KS also.

Best of luck!

My pledge arrived this morning.

Everything looks to be their so far, need to go back through my pledge manager to double check.

The bases are awesome, could happily base a fantasy army on them.
The infernals make me regret not backing for an army of them on the KOW2 kickstarter.

The only disappointment is ba'el who is tiny compared to what I expected. And the two expansions I got have no packaging. The models / cards etc were just lose in a brown box. I know as I didn't get all three (never been a fan of mantic orcs so skipped that one) I wouldn't get the fancy box, but I expected something. They won't all fit in the fancy book packaging, just the books and tokens are too much for it, let alone any models.

 Tamereth wrote:
My pledge arrived this morning.

Everything looks to be their so far, need to go back through my pledge manager to double check.

The bases are awesome, could happily base a fantasy army on them.
The infernals make me regret not backing for an army of them on the KOW2 kickstarter.

The only disappointment is ba'el who is tiny compared to what I expected. And the two expansions I got have no packaging. The models / cards etc were just lose in a brown box. I know as I didn't get all three (never been a fan of mantic orcs so skipped that one) I wouldn't get the fancy box, but I expected something. They won't all fit in the fancy book packaging, just the books and tokens are too much for it, let alone any models.

The upgrades were an all or nothing.

I would have pledged for Galahir anyway and replaced the models with GW orcs if I didn't like the Mantic ones. IMHO they are good sculpts. This way you get the extra box, all the details for the expansion.

However look on the bright side, I pledged extra to get to $200 and unlock the hardback book. Which looked like it was going to be full weighty tome



What we actually get is a leaflet full of noob misprints sandwiched between two pieces of heavy card. By not getting everything you are spared the wait for overhyped crap.

I was kinda disappointed by how soft detailed Valendor is.

And yeah, no boxes for expansions, even plain ones, is a real pain.

On the plus side, got three games on last night, and it was a blast. The two quick start adventures and one full party. Very quick to slip back into.
My one comment is agree as a group what side the front of the elf is.

This is interesting. I pledged for a gakload of stuff, which should be "Carton A", but they contacted me about the hardcover book as a separate item...

Is there any way to get a list of what I pledged for, or do I have to trust that their packing slips are correct? (which they are not)

Carton A should just be the main Dungeon Master pledge box. Carton B is the one you get if you got main pledge and all three expansions and it comes with a second book-box. So if you didn't qualify for Carton B, your Carton A Dungeon Master will be coming on a boat (which I think just launched as of the latest update) and everything else will be getting shipped royal mail.

This specific update:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/dungeon-saga-the-dwarf-kings-quest/posts/1389561

But perhaps the latest update (seemed like it was today or maybe yesterday) included

Hardback Adventurer's Companion

This will affect a very small minority of people, but there has been a bit of chatter about it in the comments.

Due to an error in our database, backers who pledged over $200 and did not qualify for Carton B did not have their Hardback Adventurer's Companion upgrade added to their picking list, and instead received a softback copy of the book.

Every backer affected by this issue has now been contacted. We are planning on sending their Hardback Adventurer's Companion this week, and affected backers will be able to keep the softback copy received in error at our cost.

So perhaps you were one of those who pledged for a lot, but not specifically carton B stuff, and were therefore missed in the over/200 window (where you should get the book but database error checked the box for the softcover instead) which they're apparently addressing by sending the hardcover to those specific individuals while you can keep the softcover.

Maybe?

As for a list of what you pledged for... I'm not sure. I forget if you can still log into the pledge manager to look at your order. Maybe search your email for mantic/dungeon saga related mails and see if the pledge manager issued a receipt with what you ordered (seems like they tend to do just that, but I haven't looked in a while).

In other news the YM Utmost still seems to be lurking somewhere around Japan.

 GrimDork wrote:
In other news the YM Utmost still seems to be lurking somewhere around Japan.

I wonder if they would be willing to make a brief stop on the way...

 GrimDork wrote:
Carton A should just be the main Dungeon Master pledge box. Carton B is the one you get if you got main pledge and all three expansions and it comes with a second book-box. So if you didn't qualify for Carton B, your Carton A Dungeon Master will be coming on a boat (which I think just launched as of the latest update) and everything else will be getting shipped royal mail.


As for a list of what you pledged for... I'm not sure. I forget if you can still log into the pledge manager to look at your order. Maybe search your email for mantic/dungeon saga related mails and see if the pledge manager issued a receipt with what you ordered (seems like they tend to do just that, but I haven't looked in a while).

Yeah, I read both updates very carefully, and also tried to log into the pledge manager (it says "Kings of War has closed!") before posting here.

The thing is I'm pretty sure I pledged for everything that was useful, and should be getting a book box (or two?) But no, I checked my email and found nothing in there with a receipt for what I ordered.

fake edit -
OK.. checked yet again using different strings. "Mantic Digital" seems to be the key one.

Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2 $190.00
The Return of Valandor Included In Eb Dungeon Master Pledges And Up: , Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Adventurer's Companion Soft Back (#MGKDS04-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Green Rage Figure Pack (#MGKDS18-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Denizens of the Abyss figure pack (#MGKDS19-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Tyrant King Blaine (#MGKDS30-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Infernal Crypts (#MGKDS13-1) 1 $25.00
The Warlord of Galahir (#MGKDS12-1) 1 $25.00
The Tyrant of Halpi (#MGKDS14-1) 1 $25.00
Hoggar, Zombie Troll Shaman Collector's Resin (#MGKDS34-5) 1 $8.00
Black Fortress Dungeon Tile and Furniture Pack (#MGKDS21-1) 1 $25.00
Cart Subtotal $298.00
Shipping $25.00 via Standard Shipping
Order Discount -$95.00
Order Total $228.00 (Includes $0.00 Tax)

OK... so it looks like I went sweet spot x2, so I'll be getting one of Carton A and one of Carton B. Therin lay my confusion.

Huh yeah that's odd. So they emailed to tell you about your missing hardback? Weird. I think if you've got a carton B coming you should certainly get a hardback in that as I thin it's prepackaged that way.

 Azazelx wrote:

 GrimDork wrote:
Carton A should just be the main Dungeon Master pledge box. Carton B is the one you get if you got main pledge and all three expansions and it comes with a second book-box. So if you didn't qualify for Carton B, your Carton A Dungeon Master will be coming on a boat (which I think just launched as of the latest update) and everything else will be getting shipped royal mail.


As for a list of what you pledged for... I'm not sure. I forget if you can still log into the pledge manager to look at your order. Maybe search your email for mantic/dungeon saga related mails and see if the pledge manager issued a receipt with what you ordered (seems like they tend to do just that, but I haven't looked in a while).

Yeah, I read both updates very carefully, and also tried to log into the pledge manager (it says "Kings of War has closed!") before posting here.

The thing is I'm pretty sure I pledged for everything that was useful, and should be getting a book box (or two?) But no, I checked my email and found nothing in there with a receipt for what I ordered.

fake edit -
OK.. checked yet again using different strings. "Mantic Digital" seems to be the key one.

Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2 $190.00
The Return of Valandor Included In Eb Dungeon Master Pledges And Up: , Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Adventurer's Companion Soft Back (#MGKDS04-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Green Rage Figure Pack (#MGKDS18-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Denizens of the Abyss figure pack (#MGKDS19-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Tyrant King Blaine (#MGKDS30-1) Included With: Early Bird - Dungeon Master 2
Infernal Crypts (#MGKDS13-1) 1 $25.00
The Warlord of Galahir (#MGKDS12-1) 1 $25.00
The Tyrant of Halpi (#MGKDS14-1) 1 $25.00
Hoggar, Zombie Troll Shaman Collector's Resin (#MGKDS34-5) 1 $8.00
Black Fortress Dungeon Tile and Furniture Pack (#MGKDS21-1) 1 $25.00
Cart Subtotal $298.00
Shipping $25.00 via Standard Shipping
Order Discount -$95.00
Order Total $228.00 (Includes $0.00 Tax)

OK... so it looks like I went sweet spot x2, so I'll be getting one of Carton A and one of Carton B. Therin lay my confusion.

On the KS comments forum one backer with a Carton A and a Carton B setup like yours got two Carton A plus extras, and missed out on the specifics from Carton B. Mantic replied and promised to fix.

You may or may not have the same problem.


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I took notes when I ordered and kept a .txt file on my computer with it so I can reference.

Dungeon Master x1
Warlord of Galahir x1
Infernal Crypts x1
Tyrant of Halpi x1
Black Fortress x1
Resin wound and bones pile counters x1
$210

For DS, I only ordered a bunch of add ons. I have heard nothing and received nothing. For KOW2, I ordered a bunch of plastics, as well as Blaine on raptor. I have received nothing and heard nothing.

Should I start drafting emails now?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
For DS, I only ordered a bunch of add ons. I have heard nothing and received nothing. For KOW2, I ordered a bunch of plastics, as well as Blaine on raptor. I have received nothing and heard nothing.

Should I start drafting emails now?

For KoW, yes. For DS, not yet.