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 SJM wrote:
Yup, missing some Limousine.

Who the hell is going to drive a Limousine though a mineshaft?

I'm just waiting for the main army book to let those purestrain genestealers being able to be taken in squads of 10...screw those wulfen t1 charges - genestealers are where it's AT!

 dan2026 wrote:

 SJM wrote:
Yup, missing some Limousine.

Who the hell is going to drive a Limousine though a mineshaft?

John McClane.

The rules for these guys are really stellar. It seems like they packed a lot of power into these simple GS cultists. Reminds me of the rules for the Mechanicus...

Gee, if only the rules for, like, actual genestealers were this good…
Seriously though, I'm comparing cultists and termagants, hybrids and hormagaunts, and the hyper-evolved space bugs are coming up waaaay short.

So as of now there is no way to add more units to the cult.

As all the characters are unique.

Guess we wait for the codex.

 dan2026 wrote:
So as of now there is no way to add more units to the cult.

As all the characters are unique.

Guess we wait for the codex.

You can run multiple regular combined arms detachments with more troops or elites as you desire. Up to 3, really. They have regular force org icons on the top left and are their own faction.

for example:

CAD 1:
HQ: Magus
Troops: 6x 3rd & 4th gen unit
Elites: 2x aberrant brothers

CAD 2:
HQ: Primus & Patriarch
Troops: 6x 1st & 2nd gen units
Elites: 3x pureseed genestealers

Except you dont get the sweet formation, which is really, really worth it.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:

 SJM wrote:
Yup, missing some Limousine.

Who the hell is going to drive a Limousine though a mineshaft?

John McClane.

bwhahahahahaha - exalted!!!

 SickSix wrote:
The marines are amazing. But I'm on a strict no new model deal with the wife.

I'm dying inside.

40k. It costs your time, it costs your money, it costs your life (wife).

I'm going to bypass this box set, since I'm not playing Nids and my Marine army is rather focused.

I haven't spent any money on GW for the past 7-months (?) now. This box-set is quite tempting though. I would have appreciated a lower price-point, though. Here's hoping that I can score some of those GS cultists on ebay.

 SJM wrote:
Yup, missing some Limousine.

Am I the only one who doesn't care about getting some special snowflake model that only exists because someone had had a couple of toy cars lying around.

Seriously, I'll be more than happy with Chimeras, Russes, even Tauroxes.

 xttz wrote:

 SJM wrote:
Yup, missing some Limousine.

Am I the only one who doesn't care about getting some special snowflake model that only exists because someone had had a couple of toy cars lying around.

Seriously, I'll be more than happy with Chimeras, Russes, even Tauroxes.

No. I like the GC, but hope as hell that the limo doesn't makes a comeback.

Apparently, the Imperium has REALLY advanced mining equipment. How many armies would like a R24" S9 AP2 weapon with no drawbacks? My Deathwing and GK should take temp jobs on the nearest mining colony...

 the_Armyman wrote:
Apparently, the Imperium has REALLY advanced mining equipment. How many armies would like a R24" S9 AP2 weapon with no drawbacks? My Deathwing and GK should take temp jobs on the nearest mining colony...

It's a Heavy weapon on a BS3 T35+ sv model. It may be stronger than expected, but let's not pretend it has "no drawbacks".

Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

I wonder what the cultists will go for on Ebay. Because I would gladly pay similar to the price of a get-started bundle for them, as that's basically what they would be.

Or wait awhile if thwy will ne non-limited. Because after the hype dies down, you can find some really good deals. The Chosen for Dark Vengeance are amazing models, and you can regularly get the six of them, the Lord, and the Champion for less than 20 bucks.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

To be fair, it's a weaponised mining laser.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

But that's super-duper amazin!!!1 Which is why all Guard armies include tons of Lascannon heavy weapon squa....oh.

Seriously Armyman, seriously

 xttz wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:
Apparently, the Imperium has REALLY advanced mining equipment. How many armies would like a R24" S9 AP2 weapon with no drawbacks? My Deathwing and GK should take temp jobs on the nearest mining colony...

It's a Heavy weapon on a BS3 T35+ sv model. It may be stronger than expected, but let's not pretend it has "no drawbacks".

My point was that it's ridiculous to think a mining laser is superior to most of the weapons in the game. A tool purpose-built for mining makes a pretty devastating weapon? Why do termies bother with storm bolters when they could carry a mining laser?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

To be fair, it's a weaponised mining laser.

Well, yeah. But that part's obvious semantics. My comparison was about the survivability of the guy toting the gun. I'm not arguing againt the capability of a guy to carry a lascannon!

I find it amusing to think the technophobic Imperium has an STC for a mining laser that would make a great weapon but no-one has ever realized it, or maybe they have and the report was filed on a random server by an Adeptus Mechanicus scribe and forgotten about.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

But that's super-duper amazin!!!1 Which is why all Guard armies include tons of Lascannon heavy weapon squa....oh.

Seriously Armyman, seriously

yeah at this point, it seems that this guy is looking for any reason to complain. This thing is an inferior version of a lascannon. Nothing to write home about.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:
Apparently, the Imperium has REALLY advanced mining equipment. How many armies would like a R24" S9 AP2 weapon with no drawbacks? My Deathwing and GK should take temp jobs on the nearest mining colony...

It's a Heavy weapon on a BS3 T35+ sv model. It may be stronger than expected, but let's not pretend it has "no drawbacks".

My point was that it's ridiculous to think a mining laser is superior to most of the weapons in the game. A tool purpose-built for mining makes a pretty devastating weapon? Why do termies bother with storm bolters when they could carry a mining laser?

To be truthful, you might as well be making the argument as to why Terminators aren't all carrying one-handed heavy bolters as standard, with a lascannon being a choise as a heavy weapon.

I'm kinda surprised about the stats, though. My gut would have expected something like a multi-laser, or it being essentially either a multi-melta, or a slightly longer range meltagun, rather than a lascannon-type.



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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, it's like a guardsman shouldering a lascannon.

Hold on. You guys are taking the wrong opportunity to stick it to me for some reason. I literally own Rogue Trader Guards(Imperial Army)men with shoulder mounted lascannons. That's not what I was making a statement about. I am agreeing with xttz's statement.......sheesh.

Ordered one for $85 equivalent, seems to be a nice and cheap little game.

 streetsamurai wrote:


yeah at this point, it seems that this guy is looking for any reason to complain. This thing is an inferior version of a lascannon. Nothing to write home about.

That's funny, I seem to recall writing a couple posts that praised the models and painting. But don't let facts get in the way of whatever point you were trying to make, right? Next we'll be told GS carpenters carry rending, S5 nailguns and AP3 carpenter squares coz reasons but they're inferior because the model carrying them is only BS3.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Am I the only one that is going to cut the heads off helmetless marines and replace them with helmeted heads? At least the majority of them. The WS, BR, and Cassius are about the only ones that get to be without helmets.

For me, the only one that is guaranteed to stay helmetless is the Iron Hand guy.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:


yeah at this point, it seems that this guy is looking for any reason to complain. This thing is an inferior version of a lascannon. Nothing to write home about.

That's funny, I seem to recall writing a couple posts that praised the models and painting. But don't let facts get in the way of whatever point you were trying to make, right? Next we'll be told GS carpenters carry rending, S5 nailguns and AP3 carpenter squares coz reasons but they're inferior because the model carrying them is only BS3.

I might have been one of those putting the boot in earlier nut you're obviously being positive here. It might be a BS, T3 model but Tyranids are drastically short of any kind of high strength, low AP weaponry and we now have a 110pt unit with 2 of them, not to mention grenade launchers! That is awesome, and since we now have 2 ML2 psychers rolling on Telepathy we have a very good chance of getting Shrouded or Invisibility to up their servivability.

I love the fact that the formation gives the entire army Fearless and Adamantium Will.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:


yeah at this point, it seems that this guy is looking for any reason to complain. This thing is an inferior version of a lascannon. Nothing to write home about.

That's funny, I seem to recall writing a couple posts that praised the models and painting. But don't let facts get in the way of whatever point you were trying to make, right? Next we'll be told GS carpenters carry rending, S5 nailguns and AP3 carpenter squares coz reasons but they're inferior because the model carrying them is only BS3.

Salty

 Imateria wrote:

I might have been one of those putting the boot in earlier nut you're obviously being positive here. It might be a BS, T3 model but Tyranids are drastically short of any kind of high strength, low AP weaponry and we now have a 110pt unit with 2 of them, not to mention grenade launchers! That is awesome, and since we now have 2 ML2 psychers rolling on Telepathy we have a very good chance of getting Shrouded or Invisibility to up their servivability.

I love the fact that the formation gives the entire army Fearless and Adamantium Will.

I don't see my comment as being positive or negative, tbh. It's only viewed negatively because people choose to see pretty minis and stick their fingers in their ears going "lalala" about anything else. I'm obviously not here to make friends, and I'm not going away

It's about trying to make sense of the mechanics of the game. We mine today without the benefit of space lazorz, so why would miners of tomorrow need a space lazor that can punch a hole in a fething land raider? Wouldn't a S6 AP- weapon make more sense: something powerful enough to wound a SM very easily, but still not able to completely render TDA into molten slag 2/3 of the time with a single shot?

 the_Armyman wrote:
Apparently, the Imperium has REALLY advanced mining equipment. How many armies would like a R24" S9 AP2 weapon with no drawbacks? My Deathwing and GK should take temp jobs on the nearest mining colony...

The Deathwatch booklet actually has something interesting about that.

It's noted by the Iron Hand member of the Kill-Team when he examines one of the mining lasers that all the safety protocols have been overridden and that it was modified to "require a third hand to hold"--with the "normal" miners requiring a servo-arm to operate it.