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 Yaraton wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:

 -Shrike- wrote:

 kronk wrote:
That's one pretty model!

How many will sell? Will we ever know?

Well, they do come with numbered certificates, I think...

My Mars pattern Warhound 'Bello Canis' (#3102) came with a certificate from the Fabricator-General, so i recon anything larger will definetly have one!

I bought the Lucius pattern a month before FW pulled a plug on it. My certificate says 1604.

I cheerfully have no idea what number mine is, I got it waaaay cheap on ebay (seller had zero feedback, so I was taking a chance, and came out gloriously ahead).

Are you sure it's not a Chinese or Russian re-cast? That would explain the lack of the certificate.

 warboss wrote:

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Wait is this supposed to be one of these, or are those the larger Emperor class titans? I thought it was a Warlord in Abnett's novel?

Apparently if you're a fan of the angular titan designs like me, you're in the minority. They stopped making the angular warhound titan as it was outsold by the other curvy one significantly. With the imperial knight that came out, I can't say I blame them. They have a complete line of titans that visually match now with curves instead of the blocky angles that I prefer. The knight, warhound, reaver, and now warlord look like a visual progression both in size and style.

I really like the Lucius pattern Titans. They look good, and imposing. I have an epic warhound, reaver, and warlord all lucius pattern, and like them more than the Mk I plastic epic warlord and old warhound.

Like the other FW titans though, the new Warlord drops all the silly out of the epic model, makes a functional looking design, then adds enough touches to let you know it was inspired by the epic model, not a copy.

As for the Lucius warhound, IIRC from speaking to Will Hayes, he did it first, and made it blocky as that was simpler to sculpt at the time. He wasn't fully satisfied with it, so we got the Mars pattern. Both the Warhounds have a bit of an assembly problem, as the interior of the torso is made up of so many interlocking parts, as opposed to the later Reaver which has a central core part that everything attaches to, and the Warlord has no interior so you can build a solid cubic core to attach everything else to.

 MLaw wrote:
For those who are not using their credit cards for this and legitimately can afford it without going beyond your means.. badass.. good on ya for doing well in life. Enjoy the spoils of your good fortune

It's a massive purchase for me, and will likely see the table once a year if that, but I'm justifying the purchase in that it will likely be months of enjoyment building and painting, and working up fluff and such for it.

Years of painting more likely, as I am still not finished with my other Titans...

warboss wrote:

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Wait is this supposed to be one of these, or are those the larger Emperor class titans? I thought it was a Warlord in Abnett's novel?

Apparently if you're a fan of the angular titan designs like me, you're in the minority. They stopped making the angular warhound titan as it was outsold by the other curvy one significantly. With the imperial knight that came out, I can't say I blame them. They have a complete line of titans that visually match now with curves instead of the blocky angles that I prefer. The knight, warhound, reaver, and now warlord look like a visual progression both in size and style.

Still doesn't stop me from wishing for the Lucius patterns. :( Le-sigh, guess it's off to eBay when I can afford one!

Deadshot wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Wait is this supposed to be one of these, or are those the larger Emperor class titans? I thought it was a Warlord in Abnett's novel?

Apparently if you're a fan of the angular titan designs like me, you're in the minority. They stopped making the angular warhound titan as it was outsold by the other curvy one significantly. With the imperial knight that came out, I can't say I blame them. They have a complete line of titans that visually match now with curves instead of the blocky angles that I prefer. The knight, warhound, reaver, and now warlord look like a visual progression both in size and style.

So you can't buy Lucius pattern Warhounds anymore? That sucks. If I had the money I would have bought one. The exposed shoulder mounts just look bad, both in design and in practically. Too easy to fall off (or be shot off in fluff) compared to an armoured back.

I agree.


Also, I noticed that the head alone is 60 quid. And this is a pretty damn cool display - I might get the head to satisfy my craving for one just because.

 Enigwolf wrote:



Also, I noticed that the head alone is 60 quid. And this is a pretty damn cool display - I might get the head to satisfy my craving for one just because.

Now, if my wife says she's going to give me a little head for my birthday, I'm not sure if I should get naked or wait by the mailbox! Ha!

P.S. Mods don't bane me plox.


Have an exalt instead !
Reds8n

It's ok, bad jokes aren't against forum rules!

Interesting that the Warlord costs about the same as the Reaver/Warhound maniple.
Would the maniple take out the Warlord in terms of ingame strenght? i.e is it actually better monetary value?

 Ratius wrote:
Interesting that the Warlord costs about the same as the Reaver/Warhound maniple.
Would the maniple take out the Warlord in terms of ingame strenght? i.e is it actually better monetary value?

Wouldn't a better comparison be a points cost comparison? But in terms of $ comparison, given that each Warlord has four Titan primary weapons (two of which are Volcano cannons), I would imagine that taking out other Titan-sized targets wouldn't be too difficult. That said, the Reaver/2 Warhounds may be able to overwhelm it from sheer weight of fire and maneuverability.

Points cost is valid, I was more looking at it though, if one was to buy one of these "super kits" for tabletop.
If you're going to blow over a grand on some models, might as well make the best tabletop choice!

 Ratius wrote:
Points cost is valid, I was more looking at it though, if one was to buy one of these "super kits" for tabletop.
If you're going to blow over a grand on some models, might as well make the best tabletop choice!

Honestly for that Money I would rather have the Maniple. The Reaver is the best looking titan there is. It is just pure sexy. And two Warhounds would actually be used once and a while. How often would you actually use a Warlord? Me, probably never.

 SickSix wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Points cost is valid, I was more looking at it though, if one was to buy one of these "super kits" for tabletop.
If you're going to blow over a grand on some models, might as well make the best tabletop choice!

Honestly for that Money I would rather have the Maniple. The Reaver is the best looking titan there is. It is just pure sexy. And two Warhounds would actually be used once and a while. How often would you actually use a Warlord? Me, probably never.

He has a valid point. Even if the Warlord beats the Maniple, chances are it won't see play very much!

The Warlord is 2850 pts, the maniple is 2975 pts.

It might never see play, but it would be tempting to build it and bring it with you to tournaments and have it next to you to ask it tactical questions during the game. Your opponent might just be distracted enough starring at it to make mistakes.

 Theophony wrote:
It might never see play, but it would be tempting to build it and bring it with you to tournaments and have it next to you to ask it tactical questions during the game. Your opponent might just be distracted enough starring at it to make mistakes.

Which warlord table are you rolling on? Strategic? Personal, or the one from your codex?

None of the above. I’m rolling Titan.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It might never see play, but it would be tempting to build it and bring it with you to tournaments and have it next to you to ask it tactical questions during the game. Your opponent might just be distracted enough starring at it to make mistakes.

Which warlord table are you rolling on? Strategic? Personal, or the one from your codex?

None of the above. I’m rolling Titan.

Wait, I might actually just do that with my Warlord titan head... I could even name it Bob or something.

 Enigwolf wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It might never see play, but it would be tempting to build it and bring it with you to tournaments and have it next to you to ask it tactical questions during the game. Your opponent might just be distracted enough starring at it to make mistakes.

Which warlord table are you rolling on? Strategic? Personal, or the one from your codex?

None of the above. I’m rolling Titan.

Wait, I might actually just do that with my Warlord titan head... I could even name it Bob or something.

Fit a speaker into it to really confuse people...

Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

 Haighus wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It might never see play, but it would be tempting to build it and bring it with you to tournaments and have it next to you to ask it tactical questions during the game. Your opponent might just be distracted enough starring at it to make mistakes.

Which warlord table are you rolling on? Strategic? Personal, or the one from your codex?

None of the above. I’m rolling Titan.

Wait, I might actually just do that with my Warlord titan head... I could even name it Bob or something.

Fit a speaker into it to really confuse people...

I was thinking it would be funny to put a burner phone in one with Siri or similar.

 BrookM wrote:
Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

Oooooo. I never thought of that. That would be all kinds of dorky goodness.

It might never see play, but it would be tempting to build it and bring it with you to tournaments and have it next to you to ask it tactical questions during the game.

Hahaha!

 gorgon wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

Oooooo. I never thought of that. That would be all kinds of dorky goodness.

Then put it on a bobble head base shaped as a Titan.

 BrookM wrote:
Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

I have always imagined that Titans - especially larger ones - have big horn sounds. In fact, I think the Dies Irae is even described as such in the HH books.

Like the horn here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd3sD17Ovyk&t=1m43s

Okay guys, I'm bookmarking this page. I know what I'm going to be doing for my next big "side" project. A Warlord head with sound effects.

It doesn't look like the Warlord head itself is going to be big enough to fit a speaker in while maintaining the internal detail. So I could probably build a display plinth with cutouts (laser cutter arriving in 3 weeks!) for an Arduino board, buttons (for different sounds), batteries, and a set of speakers.

Okay guys, I'm bookmarking this page. I know what I'm going to be doing for my next big "side" project. A Warlord head with sound effects.

It doesn't look like the Warlord head itself is going to be big enough to fit a speaker in while maintaining the internal detail. So I could probably build a display plinth with cutouts (laser cutter arriving in 3 weeks!) for an Arduino board, buttons (for different sounds), batteries, and a set of speakers.

Wow. What about getting some small speakers and embedding them in ruined scenery on a big base? Rather than try and embed them in the mdoel itself?

 Ashiraya wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

I have always imagined that Titans - especially larger ones - have big horn sounds. In fact, I think the Dies Irae is even described as such in the HH books.

Like the horn here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd3sD17Ovyk&t=1m43s

The Warlord in the audio drama Iron Corpses has a war siren. Pretty sweet one too.

 BrookM wrote:
Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

You mean a bit like this?




Not my models, taken at HH weekender.

Pretty crap photo but the Nurgle daemon prince shown at the opening weekend must be out soon because here it is painted:

Ratius wrote:

Okay guys, I'm bookmarking this page. I know what I'm going to be doing for my next big "side" project. A Warlord head with sound effects.

It doesn't look like the Warlord head itself is going to be big enough to fit a speaker in while maintaining the internal detail. So I could probably build a display plinth with cutouts (laser cutter arriving in 3 weeks!) for an Arduino board, buttons (for different sounds), batteries, and a set of speakers.

Wow. What about getting some small speakers and embedding them in ruined scenery on a big base? Rather than try and embed them in the mdoel itself?

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Just a plain display plinth with speakers in them. I might try running LEDs to the Warlord eyes, though, but I'm not sure I want my first LED job to be on a Warlord head.

Koppo wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Oh man, fitting a speaker into a Warlord and then have it play warhorn sounds over and over again.

You mean a bit like this?




Not my models, taken at HH weekender.

Jeebus, that's... a lot of Knights. My hands shudder just thinking about the assembly.

 Ratius wrote:
Interesting that the Warlord costs about the same as the Reaver/Warhound maniple.
Would the maniple take out the Warlord in terms of ingame strenght? i.e is it actually better monetary value?

The Warlord has eight D-weapon shots. The Reaver has eight, and each Warhound has four. The Warlord has 30 HP and a 5++ (effectively 40 HP, assuming there isn't enough cover for a titan) vs. 36 HP for the smaller titans. Having the ability to keep shooting at full effectiveness until the whole titan is dead vs. having smaller sub-units that can be destroyed is probably somewhat offset by the potential to waste shots on overkilling one titan vs. making every shot count. So the Warlord probably doesn't have enough of a durability advantage to make up for being outgunned 2:1.

Of course the real answer is a combination of "who shoots first" and "who rolls the most 6s". 16 D-weapon shots from the smaller titans is enough to kill a Warlord in one shooting phase with average dice, while the Warlord's shooting kills a Reaver on average and leaves the Warhounds unable to finish off the Warlord with their return fire (unless they get 6s) before it gets around to annihilating them.

Keep in mind the Warlord has Machine Destroyer on its main guns.