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Okay, folks... it'll be a little while until I do this, but I'm trying to get ready in advance.
My next army will be Orks. When I "collect" an army, I simply save my $$ until I have enough, then buy everything I want and need at once, then start assembling/comverting.

I don't have the codex, so I can't (yet) build a balanced army, then go from there, as I normally would. At this point, I'm just listing the stuff I WANT and not necessarily what I NEED. That's why I'm asking for opinions. I don't know all the NEED pieces, necessarily.

With that in mind, understand that I don't plan on always fielding everything here but, on occasion, each item WILL see play.
Please, tell me if I've left off any essentials. Price doesn't matter, as I'll get it all 25 - 30% off... except Forgeworld. I'm not buying Forgeworld items right now.

Let me start by saying that I don't know what I'm going to do about Battlewagons yet. Land Raider conversions aside, I just cannot think of anything I want to convert... and I'm not exactly jumping at the idea of using a LR, either.

Here's the list:

Bomb Squigs (4) - 2 Blisters (Just because I want 'em)
Grot Oiler - 2 blisters (for Grot riggers... I like the model)
WARHAMMER Orc Warboss box - 1 box) Will be converted to be 40k. Warboss on boar will "count as" a bike & the other will be the "on foot" version
WARHAMMER Black Orcs box (conversion for Nobs, in case I need extras)
Ork Battleforce -3 boxes- This will give me 3 Trukks, 9 Warbikers and 60 Boys. (Will that be enough Trukks? Keep reading.)
-----------If it's too many bikes, that's fine. I'll use them for Deffkopta conversions (more below)
Ork Boyz box (might get older box for more Orks... don't know) -2 boxes (Yes, that makes 100 boys, now... some will be used for the extra army in the Burna/Loota boxes)
Big mek
Big mek with bosspole
(I will convert one with a shokk attack gun, if I decide I want one. I'm not too fond of the GW one)
Ork Wierdboy
Ork Lootas & Burnas box - 2 boxes
Ork Tank Bustas box - 2 boxes

(these next 5 are because I WANT them.. I don't know if they're a necessity)
Ork Lobba (I will convert more if I need them)
Ork Zapp Gun (I will convert more if I need them)
Ork Kannon (I will convert more if I need them)

Eldar Wraithlord (will be an Ork Dread conversion)
Space Marine Dread (will be an Ork Dread conversion)
Maybe a third walker from a different army? Nothing metal, though!

So, do I need any IG or SM tanks to loot? Is the new looted tank that good? I haven't heard anything that great about it, except that you aren't looking specific tanks any more... they, basically, all count as the same tank.

I will have (I don't know how many) Ork Deff Koptas. They will be converted from resin castings of my own creation combined with Ork boys bits, plasticard, plastic rod & tubes and brass rod & tubes.


So, what have I forgotten?

Remember... as long as it's not Forgeworld, I'm open to listen to all suggestions. My group plays 2500 points, most often. It won't hurt to have TOO MUCH stuff. Better than than too LITTLE.


Eric

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LOL

First things freaking first, buy the Codex.

Then buy two boxes of boys. After that, get your little bikes, trucks, or whatever.

Alot of this stuff you might think twice about after you see the codex. Don't get suckered in with pretty pictures for orks.

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I like how you're going about collecting; getting the models you like, with little care for their rules.

The list you have sounds pretty good. You might want to add an extra truck, and maybe a nobz mob for fun.

Good stuff.

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Grot 6 wrote:LOL

First things freaking first, buy the Codex.

Then buy two boxes of boys. After that, get your little bikes, trucks, or whatever.

Alot of this stuff you might think twice about after you see the codex. Don't get suckered in with pretty pictures for orks.

E Bay=FTW


I just said that's not how I DO things.
I buy what I WANT.
When I like something, I buy it.
I've been gaming for almost 27 years now. I know my style.
See, what you seemed to have missed is the fact that I'm not trying to "learn" the army and build it up. I'm purchasing en masse. I just want to make sure I have the stuff I NEED in addition to the stuff I WANT.
Converting & assembling is my 1st love for this hobby.
Painting is second. Playing the game is a distant third.

So, MY first freaking thing that's first is buying the models.

And ebay blows. I can get the models for a FAR better deal at an online store. By the time you buy things online, you often end up paying near retail to OVER retail when you factor shipping in. The online stores *I* use offer "one price" shipping AND 25% to 30% off.

Price comparisons FTW.

Thanks so much for the helpful post, though.

92acclude wrote:I like how you're going about collecting; getting the models you like, with little care for their rules.

The list you have sounds pretty good. You might want to add an extra truck, and maybe a nobz mob for fun.

Good stuff.


Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it.

To be fair, I want to do BOTH. I want what I want AND what's good.
An extra trukk. Huh? Four trukks. Mmmkay. ::mental note::
If I'm gonna do that, I might as well ditch the 2 boxes of Boyz above & add another battleforce. it's only $10 difference and I'll get 3 more bikes. Even if I don't use 'em I can trade or sell 'em.

As for the Nobz Mob... the Black Orks will be for that. I like plastic models and I'm not overly fond of the 40K Nobz mob. Oh, God! I don't play WH Fantasy. SOMEONE, PLEASE, tell me the Black Orcs box is all plastic!

Any other suggestions, anyone?

Thanks.
Eric

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The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
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MagickalMemories wrote:I just said that's not how I DO things.
I buy what I WANT.
When I like something, I buy it.
I've been gaming for almost 27 years now. I know my style.
See, what you seemed to have missed is the fact that I'm not trying to "learn" the army and build it up. I'm purchasing en masse. I just want to make sure I have the stuff I NEED in addition to the stuff I WANT.
Converting & assembling is my 1st love for this hobby.
Painting is second. Playing the game is a distant third.

I'd second the idea of getting the codex first. If you read through the fluff, you can get some great ideas for converting units, or changing things to your liking. For example, I like the fluff on defkoptas, but I don't really care for the models (and they may never see in-game action). I plan on converting some from some Eldar or DE jetbikes (still working out the specifics).

It also gives you the option to come up with a list so you know what you NEED. You need very different models for a Speed Freeks army than a footslogger or a dread based army.

So get the codex, see what kind of army you would like to play, write up the models, and then see what else you want.

So, MY first freaking thing that's first is buying the models.

And ebay blows. I can get the models for a FAR better deal at an online store. By the time you buy things online, you often end up paying near retail to OVER retail when you factor shipping in. The online stores *I* use offer "one price" shipping AND 25% to 30% off.

Price comparisons FTW.

I agree that ebay is pretty poor for prices on most new models. If all you're concerned about is price, go to an online store, bulk orders usually can get a better discount.

If I'm gonna do that, I might as well ditch the 2 boxes of Boyz above & add another battleforce. it's only $10 difference and I'll get 3 more bikes. Even if I don't use 'em I can trade or sell 'em.

I had the same thought, but I don't think that bikes are that great. Even if I do buy some, I would first consider how many I'm going to need for my army. Yet another argument for a codex.

As for the Nobz Mob... the Black Orks will be for that. I like plastic models and I'm not overly fond of the 40K Nobz mob. Oh, God! I don't play WH Fantasy. SOMEONE, PLEASE, tell me the Black Orcs box is all plastic!

Yes.

Any other suggestions, anyone?

Unless you only play in your basement with your friends, shop where you play. I can get a great deal on ork boyz online, but I'd rather buy my army from my friend who runs a game store. I like having a place to play when I'm up for a game, and they run some great events.
   
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So let me get this straight:

You want to buy a bunch of stuff.
You want to buy a bunch of stuff that looks pretty. In your opinion.
This bunch of stuff does not take the army book into account - it does not have any parameters aside from your opinion.
There's a want vs. need conflict going on.

Looks to me like this is an attempt at attention whoring. Congrats, you're buying a new army and don't really care about army list? Or congrats, you can't decide what you want vs. what you need? Take your pick. I understand that you can be a warseer superstar by posting a poll on what to paint next or some other mundane, trivial everyday choice.

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The fantasy orc warboss will not make a good/convincing warboss. He's way too small. He's smaller than a nob in size. Likewise, the Black Orks really look out of place in a 40K army unless you are really good at converting.

Stuff you're missing that you might want to consider:

Kommandos
Stormboyz


Good luck

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MagickalMemories wrote:
Grot 6 wrote:LOL

First things freaking first, buy the Codex.

Then buy two boxes of boys. After that, get your little bikes, trucks, or whatever.

Alot of this stuff you might think twice about after you see the codex. Don't get suckered in with pretty pictures for orks.

E Bay=FTW


I just said that's not how I DO things.
I buy what I WANT.
When I like something, I buy it.
I've been gaming for almost 27 years now. I know my style.
See, what you seemed to have missed is the fact that I'm not trying to "learn" the army and build it up. I'm purchasing en masse. I just want to make sure I have the stuff I NEED in addition to the stuff I WANT.
Converting & assembling is my 1st love for this hobby.
Painting is second. Playing the game is a distant third.

So, MY first freaking thing that's first is buying the models.

And ebay blows. I can get the models for a FAR better deal at an online store. By the time you buy things online, you often end up paying near retail to OVER retail when you factor shipping in. The online stores *I* use offer "one price" shipping AND 25% to 30% off.

Price comparisons FTW.

Thanks so much for the helpful post, though.

92acclude wrote:I like how you're going about collecting; getting the models you like, with little care for their rules.

The list you have sounds pretty good. You might want to add an extra truck, and maybe a nobz mob for fun.

Good stuff.


Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it.

To be fair, I want to do BOTH. I want what I want AND what's good.
An extra trukk. Huh? Four trukks. Mmmkay. ::mental note::
If I'm gonna do that, I might as well ditch the 2 boxes of Boyz above & add another battleforce. it's only $10 difference and I'll get 3 more bikes. Even if I don't use 'em I can trade or sell 'em.

As for the Nobz Mob... the Black Orks will be for that. I like plastic models and I'm not overly fond of the 40K Nobz mob. Oh, God! I don't play WH Fantasy. SOMEONE, PLEASE, tell me the Black Orcs box is all plastic!

Any other suggestions, anyone?

Thanks.
Eric


Get hyped about the post if you want, you obviously don't have an idea of how to do an ork army, or how they did the orks this time around. The name of the game for orks is conversion.

As for your whole " I like modeling and .... thing." sure, thats why I say, get the two boxes of boyz, then go to work deciding on what type of build you want. You can scratchbuild at least half of your list. The other half of it is just throwing money away.
Of course if you want to throw cash at someone, go for it, your buck I guess.
as for E bay, wait and see how much ork stuff starts showing up, then you'll see what I ment. People are already dumping thier stuff, to make room for the " New and improved".

Of course, if you want someone to come up behind you and tell you " Oh, you're soo coool" You just might try posting this over at warseer.
All I did was give you an opinion, no reason to be a about it. I don't even know you, why would I want to BS you?.



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Tazok wrote:The fantasy orc warboss will not make a good/convincing warboss. He's way too small. He's smaller than a nob in size. Likewise, the Black Orks really look out of place in a 40K army unless you are really good at converting.

Stuff you're missing that you might want to consider:

Kommandos
Stormboyz


Good luck


Hey, Tazok. Thanks for being one of two people who actually took the time to respond to my questions instead of respond how THEY want and take jabs at what they assume is my character.

Re: Black Orks... I don't want to say I'm good at converting, lest I be accused of being an attention whore. Let's just say the difficulty of the conversion doesn't bother me.

Maybe I'll pick up a 40K Warboss or convert a Black Orc or something. I'm not too fond of the 40K warboss, to be honest, though. I will still pick up the WHF box, though. I like that model mounted on the boar too much not to.

I looked at the Kommandos box. they're not on my WANTS list because, again, I don't care too much for the models. Lokely, some of the boys would be converted. It's one of those units I don't know ANYTHING about (contrary to popular beliefe, you can know a little about SOME units without having the codex), so I didn't know yet if they were an essential unit. Since I didn't care for the pieces, though, I was willing to wait & convert, if necessary.

Same for the Stormboys. If I like them, I'll convert them. I'm not too fond of the GW backpack bits.


@ Stonefox:

So let me get this straight:

You want to buy a bunch of stuff.
You want to buy a bunch of stuff that looks pretty. In your opinion.


No. I want to buy Orks. If I wanted pretty, I'd play Sisters of Battle.

This bunch of stuff does not take the army book into account - it does not have any parameters aside from your opinion.
There's a want vs. need conflict going on.


What conflict? If I'm buying models, why shouldn't I ALSO buy pieces I like? As I clearly stated, the list above takes into account ONLY what I like.

Looks to me like this is an attempt at attention whoring.


Right. Clearly, you know me SO well.

Congrats, you're buying a new army and don't really care about army list? Or congrats, you can't decide what you want vs. what you need? Take your pick.


Neither.
I was looking for someone to be helpful.

I understand that you can be a warseer superstar by posting a poll on what to paint next or some other mundane, trivial everyday choice.


I wouldn't know. I only post on 3 forums because of the rudeness present in so many of the members of some.
You know the type of people. Right?... You ask for some help but, instead, you get scorn and derision from them because you don't do things the way THEY think is "right."

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
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I don't know if their will be an ork megaforce or army deal release but Tau got one so maybe you should look around and see if there are any rumors to that effect, as you're buying alot of models and it's alway good to save. Saved Money = more models.


 
   
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I've seen a lot of army lists being posted with 4 or even 5 mobz of trukk boyz. I think a fourth trukk is definately worth it. Also, I believe the Black Orcs are metal.

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Good call on the triple battleforce, they are a far cry from the money savers they were years back but its still nice. I wouldnt worry about the bike thing as you said i bought a box of them and have yet to make an actual bike because they are so good for bits . As for buying it all at once, thats what i used to do but ive found i build it all but never actually finish painting cause i move on the the next project. If you have the discipline more power to ya and post some pics !

Unless i missed it though theres no bits like a Imperial/SM tank for a battlewagon if you were planning on making one. I just noticed cause thats one thing i for sure looking forward to making in my army

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What conflict? If I'm buying models, why shouldn't I ALSO buy pieces I like? As I clearly stated, the list above takes into account ONLY what I like.
" I'm just listing the stuff I WANT and not necessarily what I NEED. That's why I'm asking for opinions. I don't know all the NEED pieces, necessarily. "
So tell me exactly why this thread was made again? If it was about "which mega/battleforce boxes should I buy so I can maximize these models I'd like", I'd understand. But from what I see, it's "hey guyz, i'm buying a new army what models are cool?"

I wouldn't know. I only post on 3 forums because of the rudeness present in so many of the members of some.
You know the type of people. Right?... You ask for some help but, instead, you get scorn and derision from them because you don't do things the way THEY think is "right."

I hope you mean the callout threads about the female cadians and the furry crap that gets posted since that's my favorite part. If you make something, be sure to accept all criticism. Too many people at warseer and other forums get away with their precious little crappy art, furry space wolves, and ^____^kawaiii nekodesu anime crap. If that's their thing, whatever, but they typically have no backbone. Oh, check out Grim Dorkness. You'll enjoy it.

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@stonefox - Wow, let it go. Believe it or not, some people play this game to have fun. They buy models they think look cool and don't buy models they think look aweful. It might be hard to believe, but they don't want to compete in Grand Tournaments, they just want to enjoy themselves with their friends. The guy asked a question "I'm buying Orks cuz dey lookz kool, what should I buyz??" and if you don't have something constructive to say just click the Forum Index tab at the top of your screen and move on. There's no need to post your craptastic attitude and stroke your epeen.

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I agree with the preceding that the WH Orc General is going to be way too small for a 40k Warboss. He’s sculpted to fit on a 25mm square base, so he’s just nowhere near the size of the 40k one.

Dunno why you don’t like the Big Mek with SAG. IMO he’s a fantastic model. Have you seen close-up pictures?

More Trukks are a good idea. If you choose to field a speed freaks-style force, you’ll want at least four.

I’d get more Lootas. When you field them, you want units of 12-15 so they don’t run the first time they get shot. And you’ll often want two mobs.

Stormboyz are outstanding and you’ll want to option to field at least one mob, possibly two.

Looted wagons/tanks are very cool, though not compulsory. A perusal of the codex entry may give you some cool ideas.

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MagickalMemories wrote:WARHAMMER Orc Warboss box - 1 box) Will be converted to be 40k. Warboss on boar will "count as" a bike & the other will be the "on foot" version


Not to say that the "count as" is not a good way to go, but in one of the older WD, there was an "how to" for konverting a Orc Boar into a Ork Cyboar. It was when they made the Feral Orks list and some GeeW'ite made them with some pretty good instructions. I'll see if I can find that WD for ya.

MagickalMemories wrote:Eldar Wraithlord (will be an Ork Dread conversion)
Space Marine Dread (will be an Ork Dread conversion)


Now the Konverting of the SM Dread has been done, but I don't recall seeing a Wraithlord Konvert. That I do want to see what you do with it.

MagickalMemories wrote:So, do I need any IG or SM tanks to loot? Is the new looted tank that good? I haven't heard anything that great about it, except that you aren't looking specific tanks any more... they, basically, all count as the same tank.


I just thought of it, but you could take some stuff that is not normally taken as Looted Tanks. Like loot a Eldar Flacon and either give it wheels, Kopta blades or some Orked up hover kontraptions. One idea I had for Looted Bikes were using the Necron Destroyers as the base of the model. With the upper torso as the handlebars and such. Just tossing out some ideas. I would do them myself, but I'm cutting back on my 40K stuff and leaning towards fantasy.

MagickalMemories wrote:So, what have I forgotten?


From what I have read, you might want some Kommandos. But, just a suggestion.

Oh, and don't forget that codex. j/k

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Whomever said stormboyz, I'll second that. Same with the lootas.

Also with the extra bike sprues you can just use the bitz to convert more boyz and nobz.

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stonefox wrote:Yeah, sorry my epeen's been flaccid lately. :(

Hey dakka, I like Tau models. I don't care which one is good in the game since I just like cool models. Please choose which ones are cool for me since I cannot make decisions for myself.


I honestly don't think he was saying that at all. He knows which ones are cool in terms of appearance/style (which is always down to personal taste); he was looking for some feedback on what units he's going to need in terms of effectiveness. He's an older gamer, in the common older gamer situation of having more money than time. I'm getting there. For my first five years in the hobby, I constantly worked on army lists, practice games, etc. Nowadays I don't have as much time to try stuff out and theorize about lists.

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Wow.
So much great info.
Thanks, guys.

(BTW, Codex will be in my hands this weekend, likely)

Let's see if I can touch on some stuff here...

I don't know if their will be an ork megaforce or army deal release but Tau got one so maybe you should look around...


Oh, absolutely.
Should they come out with one before I buy, it could very well change my list, depending on the contents.

Also, I believe the Black Orcs are metal.


::sobs::
Anyone know for sure? Right now, I have one hit on each.
If they're metal, I'll probably go to the boxes of 40K Nobs, instead.

I wouldnt worry about the bike thing as you said i bought a box of them and have yet to make an actual bike because they are so good for bits


Precisely.
I KNOW I'll make a unit because I like the models that much. As for the extras, though... My Deffkoptas will be Deffchoppas. Essentially, they'll be rocket bikes. LOL
I plan on mounting a Chopper style handlebar & seat on a rocket and use that as a "counts as" for the kopta... because I think it will look cool.


thats what i used to do but ive found i build it all but never actually finish painting cause i move on the the next project. If you have the discipline more power to ya and post some pics


I will actually be BREAKING my usual pattern for this army. Usually, I paint it myself or (most recently) hire them out for commission.
This army will be painted and dipped on every model possible. I don't forsee a lot of issues with getting them done.

The guy asked a question "I'm buying Orks cuz dey lookz kool, what should I buyz??"


LOL
Actually, I'm buying them because they seem FUN. It's a far cry from the MEQ's I usually play. I'm trying to break from the pattern. I was going to pick Eldar, but one of the guys in our game group has started collecting them. If I get the Orks, we can (as a group) diversify a little more... as a bonus, the orks I've picked out cost about a third of the Eldar I'd picked out. Me likey.
"What should I buyz" isn't about the looks. LOL I can see that. It's about "What iz tuff an' good!" I can't see that yet.

Dunno why you don’t like the Big Mek with SAG...


I've seen the images on the GW site. They're good enough for me.
It's actually the SAG I don't like. The ork looks fine. I don't know... I just picture something different. More "clunky." The lines on that gun look too fluid for me. KWIM?

I’d get more Lootas. When you field them, you want units of 12-15 so they don’t run the first time they get shot. And you’ll often want two mobs.


Good info. I"ll look into that. Thanks.

Like loot a Eldar Flacon and either give it wheels, Kopta blades or some Orked up hover kontraptions.


I've seen taht somewhere before. IIRC, they put a Deffroller in the front, center opening. It was pretty cool looking.
That's something I want to touch on with the army, as well. In the things I convert, I want to convert as many different armies as possible. One of my buddies has a couple Exorcists... When I get closer t "buy time," I'm going to study one to see if I think it can be reasonably converted to have an Ork playing the organ (I doubt it). If I think I can manage it, I'll convert one up. It'll be looted in regular 40K, but I will probably use it as an exorcist in Apoc.

One idea I had for Looted Bikes were using the Necron Destroyers as the base of the model. With the upper torso as the handlebars and such.


See, now. THAT is freaking genius.
I don't think I'd use it as a bike, since it hovers off the ground, but a few of those could make a nice group of Deff Coptas!


He's an older gamer, in the common older gamer situation of having more money than time


LOL Should I be offended? I'm only 36 and a half! LOL
I would probably say I have more money thatn time... but that is only because I don't have a lot of time.
My "plan of attack" for large gaming purchases is "save, save, save.."

-- wait for it --

"OKAYNOWI'MGONNASPENDITALL!"

LOL

Thanks again for the advice, all.

Eric

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I know what you mean with the shockattack gun. Why don't you convert one if you want to field it.
Just ignore stonefox. He's acting like Johnhwangdd and tegeus-cromis.

If anyone has pics of the necron bike idea I'd love to see 'em.


 
   
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So you're talking about as if the Ork put a pimp slap to the neck fat of a Destroyer and is now pretty much using him as a bike/deffkopta? That is just too cool. You could do a whole theme to an Ork army with looted Necron stuff.

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Fantasy Black Orcs are all plastic, but they are pretty hard to convert. The legs aren't like other ork legs.

Advice on buying: Pick up a box or two of fantasy orcs. That way you get some variation in your orks, extra choppa arms, some nifty skulls and stuff for vehicles and importantly you can use all the spare sluggas and shootas from the boyz box. That way, if you're doing KoS one week, you have enough sluggas. But if the next week you wanna try footsloggers you also have enough shootas.
Apart from that, you should have plenty of bits to go 'round. Something I noticed about the ork trukks is that they don't come with a rokkit launcha upgrade, but the lootas have some extra rokkity bits that can be used. Havoc launchers also work.


List building: Every Nob who is a unit leader should be given a power klaw. It makes the unit far more potent on the battlefield. If you get fed up of the one with the box, the Warbikers also come with one. Try to get three of each big shootas and rokkits for every 27 boys. That leaves you with some flexibility.

If building speed freaks, it's hard to have too many trukks. I have 7.
The new plastics are great fun to assemble, and the metals are alright too.

   
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The new Black orc box is DEFINATELY plastic, I own one

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Me too. I haven't assembled them yet though, they're a bit tricky.

   
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I have to echo the previous posts about the effectiveness of Stormboys. Convert a different style jump pack if the "rocketeer" look isn't for you, but a unit of orks doubletiming it up the table will make a great hammer to match the anvil of your trukks. Proxy some in a game; they take finesse, but they'll surprise you.


MagickalMemories wrote:My Deffkoptas will be Deffchoppas. Essentially, they'll be rocket bikes. LOL


Now there's a man after my own heart. I'm working on a few of those as we speak, have a look!

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Teek wrote:
I have to echo the previous posts about the effectiveness of Stormboys. Convert a different style jump pack if the "rocketeer" look isn't for you, but a unit of orks doubletiming it up the table will make a great hammer to match the anvil of your trukks. Proxy some in a game; they take finesse, but they'll surprise you.


MagickalMemories wrote:My Deffkoptas will be Deffchoppas. Essentially, they'll be rocket bikes. LOL


Now there's a man after my own heart. I'm working on a few of those as we speak, have a look!


You are who I stol... err... umm... WAS INSPIRED BY!

(You're farther along than last I saw 'em... looking GOOD!)

Your style isn't exactly what I want. My forks will be attached to the front end of a ROKKIT (kind of like riding a grot bomb that doesn't land... hopefully) instead of hanging down into the air. Yours look COOL (I mean that), but they wouldn't be functional without some sort of rudder-type attachment. Mine will be used to forcefully pull the front end of the rokkit one way or the other.

When I get closer, you might just get a PM.

Eric

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Something about buying the metal nobs


Keep in mind the new boyz box includes nob bitz and with the amount your buying youll have no shortage of options for variants. With how static those old metal nobz are and the ease of working in plastic its a no brainer.

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MagickalMemories wrote:My forks will be attached to the front end of a ROKKIT (kind of like riding a grot bomb that doesn't land


I dig the imagery, very much like Slim Pickins in Dr. Strangelove. Truth be told, a similar sketch turned up in my brainstorming pad, and the second bike I'm working on has a second turbine mounted at the end of longer, more raked front forks (pics forthcoming)

As for inspiration, I'm freaking stoked that people like them, and I'd love to see more people making Motorcycle style jetbike Deff Koptas. And by all means, when you get going, let me know, I'd love to see your stuff!

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FearPeteySodes wrote:
Something about buying the metal nobs


Keep in mind the new boyz box includes nob bitz and with the amount your buying youll have no shortage of options for variants. With how static those old metal nobz are and the ease of working in plastic its a no brainer.


True, but you could buy a box of nobz for more.

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