DUST Prepainted minis game! That ISN'T AT-43!

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**syr8766**

Saw this on the Lead Adventure Forum.
Posted on someone's blog.

I know for me and a lot of people, part of the appeal of AT43 was Paolo Parente's involvement, and there were many of us who hoped it would in fact BE the Dust PMG. This looks like it might be the real deal. 35mm isn't that far from AT-43 compatibility either.

Anyway, if this is really happening, I'm happy.

Just to clarify: I like AT43. I've got enough Red Blok and Space Monkeys to prove it. But this makes me happy too!

**Foda_Bett**

I think my wallet just had a heart attack.
I'm a huge Dust fan I've been looking for a 35mm dust game ever since they had a couple of prototypes 3 years ago at gencon.

**grey_death**

Looks like a very cool universe. This could be something I'll watch very closely.

**Crimson Devil**

Has anyone tried the Dust Strategy Board Game? It looks interesting.

**Hellfury**

Crimson Devil wrote:Has anyone tried the Dust Strategy Board Game? It looks interesting.

Its what Risk should have been. Its not exactly risk, per se, but it is still in the same family. its a good game.
The activation is very reminiscent of AT-43....

Edit

As far as DUST the prepainted wargame, I hope it is more skirmish with awesome characters than it is a squad based wargame. AT-43 already fits the squad based criteria quite well, but we need DUST/AT-43 as a skirmish game.

**Savnock**

Pre-painted? By Parente? This is going to change the nature of prepaints, and may be exactly what they need to overtake GW. Sweet.

**malfred**

Interesting. Might be a good source for Warmachine alts...

**Duncan_Idaho**

This is going to change the nature of prepaints, and may be exactly what they need to overtake GW

Actually Parente is quite involved in AT, too.

**Kendo**

http://www.dust-game.com/en/?p=32

There are acouple new updates on the site. The scylpting on the figure looks to me a lot better that AE-WW2 stuff, and the walker meets my expectations.

**Savnock**

I'd like to point out that the DUST board game (the RISK-style one) is distributed by Fantasy Flight games. To quote Zoolander, "They're so hot right now."

**malfred**

Is the boardgame any good?

**Duncan_Idaho**

It´s very good. Take the best of Axis & Allies and Risk and add a nice card activation system and you get Dust. It is fast but still allows a lot of tactics. In arecent game my ground based troops were overrun, but I still managed to stay afloat since I still held air supremacy.

**Death By Monkeys**

Can someone direct me to where on the site are all these amazing sculpts are? This website seems to be kryptonite for my web fu. All I can find are pics for the board game and the guy with the fire hydrant hand.

**Kendo**

Click my linky above, and scroll down on the page.

**Death By Monkeys**

Wow, Anastasia looks really great! The model really has a sense of flow. The walker looks clunky, but I guess that's intentional.

**stonefox**

The chick with the big gun is pretty neat. You can tell it's a chick but doesn't have over-the-top OMG BOOBS or OMG HIPS AND T&A like most sci-fi/fantasy crap.

It may just be due to the side-view but it looks pretty nice.

**Moopy**

The DUST board game (RISK-like) is also very fun. This will be a nice extension beyond that.

**CATterrain**

Fist things first, yes I am the same CATterrain fanboy from the AT-43 Forum... shoot me now, but AT-43 (just getting into C:AoR too) is my miniature game of choice. Second, I am a gamer at heart (AmeriTrash, EURO, Wargames, and RPGs ... CCGs not so much anymore) and have been for many, many years. Sadly, I've seen scores of games come and go (WEG StarWars, SW:CCG, WizKids, etc, or thorough my own disdain of a companies multi-version attrition read 40K). Let it be known that I have also been a play-tester for Fantasy Flight Games and Eden Studios as well, (plus I've run games for both companies at GenCon back in the early 2000s). I was also a demo-dog/tourney rep for Decipher and WizKids too back in the day. With my whose/who & mini-intro out of the way, I will now propose my question (PS. I can also be very long winded, and let it be known I prefer the word "meticulous" over anal retentive ... but either fit).

¿WTF is happening with the AT-43 and Confrontation universes?

I ask because not only is DUST TACTICS miniaturegame/boardgame set for a summer 2010 release (I'm guessing they will be at GenCon and Origins in official form via AEG), but now I have read about the CADWALLON: CITY OF THIEVES boardgame too (name of the free city in the word of C:AoR/Aarklash). I understand that DusT is not AT-43 (!), but it sure does look similar due to the same game/art designer for both games. Cadwallon:CoT only adds to my confusion. WTF? Is it just me, or are the legal-buzzard-lawyers circling this topic like dead road kill? Ideas, opinions .... but mostly information???

LONG LIVE AT-43/C:AoR ... Welcome DUST/CADWALLON.

References:

AT-43 & C:AoR
- http://www.rackham-e.com/en
- http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24878/at-43
- http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30991/confrontation-the-age-of-the-ragnarok

DUST TACTICS
- http://www.dustgame.com./
- http://www.dust-tactics.com/
- http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/36367/dust-tactics

CADWALLON: CITY OF THIEVES
- http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2010/05/31/36550#comments
- http://underthemountain.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/cadwallon-city-of-thieves/

OK, so I'm new here and this thread looked like the best place for this post ... guess I could have started a new one. My Bad!

**chaos0xomega**

This has only been in development for what? 5 years? Its about time...

...too bad we didn't get this sooner though, I feel that systems like AE-WW2 and SOTR, etc. have devalued the genre.

**HarveyDent**

too bad they're making all-resin models that cost a gazillion dollars.

**Buckybits**

The Display models are resin, not the game models...

-John

**Grot 6**

If they can get even half of the 1/35 scale figs squared away for tabletop, then I'm all in.

I wouldn't mind getting about five boxes of the zombies and doing a proper zombie fight with the mechs and the added fun of adding it to my SOTR stuff.

**bubber**

Will be ideal for my SotTR forces!

**Alpharius**

bubber wrote:Will be ideal for my SotTR forces!

You and me both brother!

**thesilverback**

Looking interesting

**Elusive71**

Word from previous TGN updates is that these will be pre-basecoated to differentiate between forces, but not pre-painted for those of us who want to paint them.

**warboss**

Elusive71 wrote:Word from previous TGN updates is that these will be pre-basecoated to differentiate between forces, but not pre-painted for those of us who want to paint them.

basecoated? i'm suprised they don't just mold them in different colored plastic like most board games do. that way you don't have any loss of detail from recoating them in the color you want.

**whitedragon**

warboss wrote:
Elusive71 wrote:Word from previous TGN updates is that these will be pre-basecoated to differentiate between forces, but not pre-painted for those of us who want to paint them.

basecoated? i'm suprised they don't just mold them in different colored plastic like most board games do. that way you don't have any loss of detail from recoating them in the color you want.

Sometimes there is a loss in quality of plastic due to molding in color. Take a look on the Privateer Press forums about the difference between the Grind Warjacks and the regular Warmachine Plastic Warjacks.

**warboss**

whitedragon wrote:Sometimes there is a loss in quality of plastic due to molding in color. Take a look on the Privateer Press forums about the difference between the Grind Warjacks and the regular Warmachine Plastic Warjacks.

i saw people mentioning there when i searched now that they're lower detail/quality but not that the color is the cause. they're lesser quality because they're for a board game and not a minis game from what i read. do you have a link to where the color is linked to less detail? i've never heard that before.

**whitedragon**

warboss wrote:
whitedragon wrote:Sometimes there is a loss in quality of plastic due to molding in color. Take a look on the Privateer Press forums about the difference between the Grind Warjacks and the regular Warmachine Plastic Warjacks.

i saw people mentioning there when i searched now that they're lower detail/quality but not that the color is the cause. they're lesser quality because they're for a board game and not a minis game from what i read. do you have a link to where the color is linked to less detail? i've never heard that before.

The Grind mini's are identical to the WM Plastics, only molded with different plastic and in color. There is no loss in detail or anything of the sort, only that they use a different kind of plastic, relating to having to be molded in color.