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One thing that I keep noticing when I look throgh army book and white dwarf articles is this:
They never seem to look too closely at the rules. For example, in the VC example list in the army book, the blood dragon kastellan is given the cursed book. Which he can't have. Does anyone else find this kind of thing annoying?

I think they just go by the "screw the rules, i have money" road...

Greets
Schepp himself

Maybe they were playing Apocalypse. Anything goes when you're playing Apocalypse, you know.

It is annoying. I'm sure this might be a result of rules changes (maybe in an earlier draft the Kastellan could take 25pts of magical gear, not just weapons, like the Special choice High Elves can,) and they changed it but never changed the sample list. Doesn't make it right, though, and just reinforces the need to pay an editor to spot and fix.

Zoned

Actually most of the staff I have met know the rules really well. Some though, the newer ones I think, are not all that familiar. The coolest thing about them are the cool imperial belt buckles they wear.

gorgon wrote:Maybe they were playing Apocalypse. Anything goes when you're playing Apocalypse, you know.

I don't play Fantasy so I don't really know what it is, but now I totally want to put a Blood Dragon Kastellan with Cursed Book in my Thousand Sons Terminator squad. SWEET!

In the WD that featured the new harlequins had a battle report which featured eldar vs a chaos that violated the rules for squads with marks of chaos. Still using the old codex then. The chaos lord had the mark of Slaanesh. The troops had the mocu, so they should have been elites because they had a different mark.

Rbb wrote:In the WD that featured the new harlequins had a battle report which featured eldar vs a chaos that violated the rules for squads with marks of chaos. Still using the old codex then. The chaos lord had the mark of Slaanesh. The troops had the mocu, so they should have been elites because they had a different mark.

Nope, Units that had Marks OTHER than Undivided are Elites unless the Commander had the same mark. I have the Codex here if you want me to quote it exactly.

Guess I'm the dummy then!
I played World Eaters then, so the mok was the only one I ever had to worry about.

I´ll add another complain. Do translators read the english version? I could point several places where the spanish version seriously differs from the english one, e.g. the Shadowseer ruling in the Eldar codex a fine example of how to screw all spanish language players.

M.

Maybe the GW guys that do the battle reports are not bitter and twisted. they probably play in the spirit of the game and dont have rules hangups. Its only a mistake. They are not Gods. Cut them some slack.

smart_alex wrote:Actually most of the staff I have met know the rules really well. Some though, the newer ones I think, are not all that familiar. The coolest thing about them are the cool imperial belt buckles they wear.

it's not the redshirts at the local stores that are the problem, it's the game designers in the UK who write the rules, make the battle reports and who are apparently clueless when it comes to thier own rules that seem to be the real problem.

beef wrote:Maybe the GW guys that do the battle reports are not bitter and twisted. they probably play in the spirit of the game and dont have rules hangups. Its only a mistake. They are not Gods. Cut them some slack.

No they're not gods but they do get paid for playing these games so asking them to play them correctly is hardly asking for much. When I pick up WD I expect to see a professional product, painted minis, spelling checked etc.

Games played according to the rules the authors themselves wrote isn't too much at all.

Also remember that the game may have been played before the rulebook was finalized, so some things may have been legal in early drafts of the army book, but aren't once it hits the shelf.

Yes, that's a weak excuse. But it is true.

I agree with KID_KYOTO proof reading stuff is one of their biggest problems.

Black Industries are the same have you seen how many mistakes are in Dark Heresy?

The staff at some GW stores just seem to wing it when it comes to a game. If they just play fantasy they never bother with the rules for 40K

They should play all core game often and even dabble in some of the specialist games, I wouldnt expect to go into FORD's and ask about the New Focus just to be told "sorry, not too sure about the Focus, I drive a Vauxall!"

dietrich wrote:Also remember that the game may have been played before the rulebook was finalized, so some things may have been legal in early drafts of the army book, but aren't once it hits the shelf.

Yes, that's a weak excuse. But it is true.

Then include a note, "this game used an earlier draft of the rules when squats on hoverboards could still use conversion beamers" and go from there. That's part of being professional.

The battle report in the 2nd edition Ork Codex (or was it space wolves) did just that. The battle was played before the codex was finalized, and they simply copped to it.

While riding companies (even pros) for errors is a bit nitpicky, part of being a good company is knowing your demo. And nothing typifies gamers like nitpicking. I guess my point is: even if you know your audience is being picky, cater to them a bit.

Of course, I'm probably in the wrong hobby.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Then include a note, "this game used an earlier draft of the rules when squats on hoverboards could still use conversion beamers" and go from there. That's part of being professional.

While this wouldn't hurt, keep in mind that the battle reports may be finalized a couple months before even the printed date on the magazine, which may be a couple months before it's actually released...