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Posted By Iorek on 03/24/2007 7:47 AM
I still haven't heard a single thing from Robert, but did notice that he was posting on Bartertown this morning.

Hey, he has every reason to be offended that people want proof that he donated the proceeds of his DA Box Army Raffle. After all, he has a proven track record of good communication and timely service. Right Iorek and Delephont?

Big surprize.

ANOTHER Bad trader thread was put up about The Drop Zone on Bartertown.

People need to contact the Better Business Bureau and press mail fraud charges on this guy.

Unfortunately, none of the people who opened those BTR's have left a bad reference. 40 points off his rating might get his attention as he seems able to weather the BTR storms. It might also help people he approaches on B-town avoid the same predicament. Isn't that what the trading references are for?

I said the same thing.....why are these people not posting a negative reference?!? The only thing I can think of is they are afraid that if they do,they won't get their stuff. If you have to wait 3+ months and have to post a bunch of BTR just to get what you already paid for...then it is a BAD deal. They should be contacting the BBB, calling the TDZ local PD and filing mail fraud.

 

IOREK, cool sig, everyone TDZ has ripped off should use it.

But how does he really feel?

Well,

Time to tell everyone how this turned out for me. I got my stuff - everything, plus some. On the side of me getting what I paid for, he scores 5/5.

Now, for the other things about his business. As to delivery times, 2/5. He did get me my stuff, but it took fricking ages, and took him two different lots to get it to me.

Secondly, his overall service. 1/5. Robert failed to respond to a huge amount of emails, pm's, or phone messages. I only got a confirmation number (that didn't work) after catching him at work. He's a nice guy on the phone and in emails, but he doesn't respond enough, and he isn't professional enough.

Overall, 8/15. Ouch. Go the warstore anyone, it has failed to truly disappoint me.

Chuck

Chuckyhol I'm glad you got your stuff, but ALOT of others havent.

Getting your items shouldnt be like pulling teeth. Look what people have to go through just to get whats owed to them.

Shouldn't even...

What about the rest? Who's still waiting?

Anyone satisfied with the service?
Any critiques for Robert to grow from this?

Posted By Flagg07 on 03/28/2007 6:50 AM

Getting your items should be like pulling teeth

Shouldn't even...

What about the rest? Who's still waiting?

Anyone satisfied with the service?
Any critiques for Robert to grow from this?

Grow from this?!? Are you kidding me?(maybe grow a forked tongue)

  Only a total fool would order from the TDZ.  I feel sorry for those poor unsuspecting souls who dont see all the threads about TDZ on Dakka/Btown ,and order from him anyway.

Yes, I was actually....

I still haven't heard word one; I've got a PayPal dispute open now, though.

Iorek

The Paypal dispute took some time, but it did seem to do the trick, and I'm based in England.....so it should work just as well for you as you also have other more "direct" avenues you can try, like local police and FBI etc.

Contrary to certain comments made by certain idiotic individuals, referencing this thread did go a long way towards letting Paypal know just how bad this guy's business dealings are, so don't hesitate to use it!

Good luck, although you really shouldn't need it.

Well, I've registered here now simply to post in this thread.

In mid January I place an order for US$150.79 worth of BFG stuff with Dropzone. He'd been really good with me, as my order changed a couple of times before it was payed for. The last I heard from him was the second of February.

I have emailed him, every two weeks since the 2nd of feb and had no reply, i've PM'd him on Bartertown as well. Still no reply. I'm more than willing to still give him all benefit of the doubt, and I assume there is simply a technical issue stopping him getting in touch with me, as i'd REALLY like to get my bfg stuff. I've stayed up late at night to try and call him, though i've had no answer and have pretty much given up. If I don't have a response from him by tomorrow morning i'll be filing a paypal dispute.

It's worth noting that I've order stuff on behalf of a few people, and was until recently unemployed. I'm having to work extra hours to reimburse the guys who were a part of the order with me. The irony is, the time i've spent extra at work has come out of the time I spend writing the EA and BFG army builder files, which has earned me a heap of spam emails from people when I miss the deadlines I set for bug fixes.

Yes, I'd say there is a technical issue. He's probably laughing too hard on his way to the bank to be able to use a keyboard.

Sorry to say it, but if you think this is simply a technical error, you are sadly mistaken. It's so bad that the Mods at Bartertown have decided to cancel his advertising.

You need to do more than open a PP dispute. I'm sure his account is dry by now. I'd follow the guidance of Bartertown members and file a police report in your town and his.

I'm sorry that you guys haven't received your stuff guys. Robert has showed he is incapable of holding up his end of the bargain, and he now deserves everything he gets.

If you paid using a credit card, go through them to reverse the charges. Even most debit/credit cards have buyer protection these days for stuff like this while Paypal charges for resolving this and will happily leave your arse hanging if it's too much of a hassle as they have no real motive to help you while (credit card companies have you, their customer, forefront in their mind, all those tasty interest rates & fees are how they make their money).  Also, file a complaint with your local police department and with the postal service, as this constitutes mail fraud, something Robert has a clear track record of.

I don't let crap like this slide for two weeks, much less two months. The reason jerkbags like this get away with it is because they rely on abusing your trust.

Hey guys, come on....Robert did have a death in the family!! He never needs to post anything to anyone ever again!

Seeing as the problem started well before this happened, and it continues well after a reasonable mourning period, I'm quite confident that "the death" was a ploy to buy some time. Yes Robert, you are a liar.

Sorry to those of you who have lost $$. Robert, owner of The Drop Zone is a scumbag and a thief. Thanks for the post Iorek. Rest assured that The Drop Zone has missed out on several sales (free money) thanks to this thread. Sleep well knowing you've done your part. Again, sorry you got screwed.

I think Delephont was being facetious, as he was also someone that was being screwed by robert.

Robert should be formally charged,prosecuted,and in put in jail. He is STEALING,plain and simple. He's just using the internet to do it. If your local hobby shop took your money and stole from you like this I'm sure it would be treated differently.

Everyone who didnt get their stuff should do all they can to file charges and report this guy to the BBB. He has a brick/mortar store,he shouldnt be allowed to  continue "business as usual" after all the people he screwed on Dakka and Bartertown,and who knows where else.

These "problems" could have easily been taken care of, he CHOSE not to. It doesnt take long to issue a refund. At least now finally Bartertown has cancelled his advertising.

My PayPal dispute resolves on Friday; if I don't get all my money back then, I'm going to the FBI and the IC3.

Yes, indeed, I admit I was being facetious....

@ Iorek

I hope your paypal dispute works as well as mine did, but let me point something out. I think my Paypal dispute worked because Robert must have been under pressure to resolve or have his account emptied. I did belive that Paypal could legally reach into a persons bank account, but I now belive this is not the case! Robert may indeed have emptied his paypal account by now, which means it would be hard to reclaim money from him. Paypal could / would guarantee you up to $1000 dollars if you'd bought your item over eBay, but failing that its up to how much wonga he has in his account!

Sorry if this is not the best news, and I hope I'm wrong on all these points and you recover your funds, but it might be worth checking for yourself, if you haven't done so already!

Robert from The Drop Zone, what do you think? Should internet theft be treated as a middle class sport? and should inmates be given access to sky T.V and online porn?

.....sorry, being facetious again

I must not have noticed that it was you that posted it... No way I'd have missed the sarcasm from someone who'd been screwed by this POS.

Well, as of this moment he's been reported to the AFP, the BBB and the FBI internet fraud unit. As well as openening a paypal dispute. Last night (well, extremely early in the morning for me) I managed to call his store, he's finally got his voicemail fixed. So I left a message, no replies, it's a pity, as he was really cheap and I'd much rather get the stuff i ordered than to drag him through all this, but it's too late now.

Posted By knthrak on 04/02/2007 4:13 PM
Well, as of this moment he's been reported to the AFP, the BBB and the FBI internet fraud unit. As well as openening a paypal dispute. Last night (well, extremely early in the morning for me) I managed to call his store, he's finally got his voicemail fixed. So I left a message, no replies, it's a pity, as he was really cheap and I'd much rather get the stuff i ordered than to drag him through all this, but it's too late now.

Well, considering the multitude of alleged litigation pending against him, I doubt you'll hear anything until his lawyer removes the gag from his mouth.

That's the trouble with taking legal action in a situation like this. Forcing his hand through monetary means or the threat of legal action can work, but once you actually deal the law card everything screeches to a halt.

Not that action should not be taken, mind you, it's just that your expectations of the realistic timetable and results must change along with the change in the overall situation.

Actually, everything screeched to a halt when they sent their money. Now it's time for him to get his due.

BTW Loki, do you have any inside knowledge of this POS's current situation?

I wish! Then I might be in a position to help.

Nope, I'm simply attempting to distill truth from the internet betwixt bouts of laughter over the title of the "PP hot on the heels of GW" thread.

Immature? Yes, but funny nonetheless!

Youre next post will make you a "1337" haxxoR Lolz

Honestly, I don't even care about the $33 anymore; it's the principle of the thing.  I'd like to see him get nailed to the wall for his atrocious behavior;  I'm not tolerant of liars and thieves.

Since I'm a DCM, I don't see the ads.  Do The Drop Zone ads still show up here?