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I think they look fine as they are. Black and yellow shoulders are very appropriate and work well with the blue/grey.

Thanks Gits... I will hopefully do some more work on them this coming week or so.

Anyways, I mentioned before about doing some Grey Knights, well here they are... A bit battered and bruised but on the whole they are okay.

No dreadnought, dreadknight or vehicles as I couldnt geet them on the helicopter... Yup I ride a helicopter to work, how cool is that!!

Anyhoo, here are the pics

These guys are going to need knightly names so feel free to pitch in



This is my HQ choice, I can eitheruse him as a lord or a librarian..It is based on Inquisitor Hector Rex from Forgeworld, I did away with the shield as Grey Knights cant have them and changed the blade which is also elongated.... It is such a nice model I have considered giving him a Nemesis Daemon Hammer and making him Mordrak... We shall see. The shielad and some more gubbins will be winging their way on to inmy gravenimage as I owe him for some lovely bits he sent me.


Next up is Crowe, who is a nice model and will make my purifiers a troops choice and purifiers can be oh so nasty bwah hahaha!


These are the Purifiers, my favourites are the falchion wielding twins either side of the Justicar and my absolute favourite is the Falchion dude in the centre, he just oozes maenace with his crossed swords.


Next is my strike squad, who are a scoring unit and can be combat squadded, so as you can see I have set them up as an attacking aggressive half and a more defensive half with the psilencers, whom I would use as objective holders

I apologise for the poor quality images, hopefully I can remedy that when I get home.. more pictures to come.

that's one sexy rexy conversion

And back!!!

Hi Graven, yes it is a nice model, seriously nice, such a shame the pictures are too dark though!!



My Purgation squad or whatever they are called, great for chucking out lots of high strength shots and stay hidden too Sneaky Gitz



Next up is my terminator squad, a fairly mixed bag but fun nonetheless anotyher ace scoring unit, I have been tempted to get more.



And lastly, for now, the big cheeses themselves, my Paladins.

I have a bunch of interceptor backpacks kicking around, of which some will be winging their way to Graven to see if it can help him to revive his technologically advanced Mentor Legion army

Go on Graven, you know you want to

Any useful hints and tips for using these in open warfare would be gratefully received

Well, made a little progress tonight with my Wolves.

I really didnt like the yellow on the pads, it looked patchy and I rtied a gryphonne sepia wash and it made it 10 times worse, so I have redone them.
I tried to be a little more patient with them and I found out that Lahmian medium is my new best friend!! It makes such a difference and it really saved som paints I thought long dead
I havent applied a wash to the yellows or anything I plan to get some yellow glaze and see how it goes.

I decided that gitsplitta & WolfSmerf are right and the black pad would also look best, so I had a go at that, and highlighted black through to dawnstone... Not sure if the pad looks too grey now, but i could knock it back with a little badab black and highlight the edge a bit.

I also edgehighlighted the plate below just to try and get it to stand out some more.

I tried to weather the heavy flamer nozzle too, and also paint up the face as I find it can bring a model more to life... still cant do eyes for toffee

Anyway here are some picture to show how I've been getting on



NOt too happy with the gold, so will likely do it again and see if Lahmian medium can work its magic again Otherwise not too bad, making steady progress.



The twins, the one on the left needs the gold and steel worked up from basic, he also needs his claws done, the other needs some tidying, but is okay... I reckon he still needs a little tidying and maybe a new thumb


This picture came out really dark, put some purple and black to the noozzle tips, might give it a dab of grey to look like sooty deposits... then do the eyes and helm decoration, might work on the gold again, we'll see how I am feeling



Group shots, you an see what needs working on.

Thanks for looking and any C&C welcome

Cheers

Those termies are looking good. I think the thing with the yellow pads on them, and I struggle with this on mine as well is that the yellow pad (shoulder or knee) is meant to be that particular WG's personal heraldry. It's a pain in the arse but totally worth it because the two colors unify them but having the different markings helps call them out as individuals even more.

Love the blending on the yellow.

Hi captain stabby Thanks, I like your suggestion about the shoulder or knee being for heraldry, it is something I have been thinking about. i am actually really freaked out by trying any freehand on my models as I am really bad at it. The closest I got to it was the shield on my dread on page 1 where I drew it on paper, painte id and then cut it out..
I would really love to be able to do some norse or celtic designs/ knotwork on them though. Does anybody know a god website for this where I could scale them down and maybe print them off on decal paper?

I could them use the knee for the pack markings, so they stay unified, but still carry some individuality? I can theen use the other knee for kill markings or awards, that kind of thing?

Also thank you gitsplitta It has been a long time since I blended. Usually its 2 similar colours layered then a wash to tidy up, but this time Ithought I would try something different. I went from Tausept Ochre (which had gone like peanut butter until the medium rescued it!!) through Iyanden Darksun and Golden yellow, with a dab of sunburst yellow at the edge. Lots of medium and thin coats was the key and I really like the effect. I couldnt do it on the greys as it would take me months to get 1 model done

Glad you liked them, hopefully more progress to come The models wont be finished because I left arms and heads at home I do have 1 question though. Should I chop heads in half and fit them like FW head or should I attempt to drill a cavity to fit a full head in?

If you are worried about complicated knotwork and such I would say take a look at the WG in the 2E Codex. They have some good examples of the personal heraldry. Pretty simple geometric patterns, that's where I draw most of my inspiration from.

Actually I think this is the image from the 'dex.

http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k/images/a/a7/Wolf_Guard_Pack_Markings.jpg

Ah thanks, now I get you.... Those are the pack markings usually worn by every member of a squad, same as for blood claws, grey hunters etc... but I do see how you could use it individually as personal heraldry.

I have the codices from 2nd/3rd 3dition to current at home, so I will have a flick through when I get back.

Have you seen the lone wolves comic strip? Some good pack markings and tattoo ideas in there too.

Yeah, loved Lone Wolves. I want that diorma soooo badly its near impossible to track down nowadays though, something I kick myself for not picking up when I had the chance. I have the hardback of the comic somewhere, need to get it signed by Abnett if hes at the San Diego comic con this yr.

I think the "pack" markings that are shown are meant to be used as either pack or personal heraldry at least at one point. The 2E dex talks about how upon beiing elevated to the Wolf Guard they get to wear their own stuff. Personally for me I dont separate my WG into packs per se, my thinking being they are all more or less attached to the Wolf Lord and wear his heraldry somewhere (company mark) then their own somewhere else.

Ok, yeah, just grabbed the 2E dex, so... according to the way back machine. PA WG all replace their old pack markings with the black and yellow personal marking of their Wolf Lord on the right shoulder, company goes on the left, for Termies, the company mark goes on the right shoulder and the "pack" (since technically all WG are one pack I guess) goes elsewhere. Maybe the blurb I'm thinking of is somewhere else. Anyhow, yeah. lines and stuff!!

It sucks freehanding the Blooded Hunter mark for Bran's company :(

Looking very good indeed. Damn cool minis as for knotwork / runes, look at gripping beast's site - lots of ideas on the SAGA forums. An easy way, though, would be to use a micron pen (hobbycraft or other good crafty shop) for runes, either outlined, or paint over, or indeed leave as is - if you got the coloured set (Amazon probably, or a really good art store), you could use the Brown and Black pens, drawing a rune and then shadowing it subtly.
I'll do a test one on a spare pad if that doesn't make sense...

If you look on page 1 the wolf lord in the far right picture is from the lone wolves diorama, I just took his hand off and gave him a plasma pistol.... The Rune Priest has his hand holding the gaunts head
The other Space wolf is amongst my grey hunters or wolfguard unconverted and need to locate the really cool base.
I did that years ago, not really considering how rare the piece was... In hindsight I think I'd have left it alone, or bought 2 of them
I also have the hardback graphic novel,with the bit in the back showing how they made the final episode which is really cool as it shows the rough sketches and the decisions behind some of the layouts.
I havent tried freehanding BranRedmaws great company marking... I bought the FW decal sheet which is where the markings for my terminators came from. Its pretty good as it gives you enough for 1 squad of troops and 1 squad of terminators for each great company plus vehicle markings etc.
I an scan a copy to you if you like. I intend to use the whole sheet barring maybe the vehicle stuff.

Yeah I saw that guy that you did the hand swap on. I'm jealous.

Ah nah thats cool no need to scan it, cheers though! Now that I see it has Redmaws stuff on there I might pick it up for the vehicle transfers myself. I have a half baked plan for my PA wolves to acquire... 80 or so of the shoulderpad with that wolfhead on it and smooth out the pack marking lines on the field and use those. Either that or just paint over the grooves, depending on which version of the shouldepad they are different depths, so, yeah I might be insane. :/

I would say ambitious, not insane

If you are talking about the metal pads I do have some of those most used I doubt I have any spares... They are kinda small compared to the plastics, so you would need to build up the rim on them I think. Also the metal one the triangular design is raised and then the wolfshead raised again, so it would take a lot of filing or green stuffing to get that smoothed out.

The plastics are much better as the triangular design is just a line cut into the armour with a raised wolfshead, nothing some liquid green stuff couldnt sort out, the only issye is you get so few in a box set, so you would be a bits suppliers dream customer (or worst nigtmare) wanting to order so many of them.

Still it would be possibly be cheaper than 8 sheets of FW decals

I saw some of winterdynes amazing commission work in the showcase section.

And he had a suggestion for looking at google for celtic and norse images so I did and I quite like some of the norse runic stuff.

I plan on making my own storm shields for my terminators, round like you see in traditional viking imagery and thought some of these might be do-able.

I still plan on celtic knotwork for the tanks andsuch like, but would something like these be good runes of warding?

Not too much of an update on the models... been getting called to work during the night a bit, so I am really tired at the end of a shift and de-motivated.. So as much as I love dakk, its time to sleep.
Hopefully tomorrow with fresh eyes I can finish these off..
Got the golds and metals done on the second Wolf Claw, and re did the gold and metals on flamer wolf, did the combi-melta for gunney wolf, and did some little bits of tidying up.
I also did the lenses on flamer wolf, butt thee green looks so dark in there its really hard to see.
I hope you like them.

First Claw wolf, tidied up, might do the steel on the legs again. he has the darker brassier gold. Need to do more with the claws to make them pop.


Second claw wolf with a lighter more yellow gold?
Which looks better?


F;amer wolf with lighter gold, damn I missed that patch of yellow on the steel.. More tidying to do :(


Gunney got his gun, how do I make the purply blue sheen stand out?



Almost there!! Thanks for looking and any hints and tips to better my painting are gratefully received

Cheers.

I like the lighter gold. Maybe VJ Gunmetal blue to help the sheen pop?
Very cool, regardless

Good progress!

Thanks guys, Vallejo, I have never used it.

I'll have a poke about online and see if I can lay my hands on some and give it a try... I've always been a little scared to try anything other than GW paints

I remembered the other thing I wanted to mention: try brushing a little varnish over the edges of your transfers, it'll make them disappear by magic! a just a wee suggestion mind.

Matte varnish? Hmm, okay something more to sneak past the wife?
Is vallejo paint on a par with GW? Quality and pricewise?

I think gloss varnish is needed to fill the lip between the transfer and the model. You can flat coat over that if you want later on.

Yeah, sorry, gloss. Might have a spare bottle, I'll have a hunt. I really like vj paints; they're generally a bit thinner, which is not a bad thing. The range is huge, too (I have 11 greys iirc). Dropper bottles mean less waste, too. Having said that, I prefer gw's inks etc for just that reason - I'd rather use my washes from a pot, as they simply come out too fast from a dropper. I like gw's technical paints, too, vj crackle medium has never worked for me :-/

Ah right, cool.

Oh meant to ask, graven how did you go using the micron on the shoulderpad?

So gloss varnish to conceal the transfer then, matte varnish to seal the model ovverall. Thanks for that tip gits & graven

I have some gw gloss varnish here that I put on lenses, so I can give it a go.

I'll certainly look into the vallejo's some more... A lot of older paints are starting to die and somehow Lahmian medium will not bring them all back. Although tausept ochre was more like peanutbutter and it came back from the Dead. I was looking at Vallejo game colour, it looks pretty good for matches to GW.


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Oh almost forgot, does the mattte varnish dull the finish or hide the highlights at all? I never seal my models, so just curioous if I would have to make tha colours slightly brighter to compensate

I've never had an issue, but I know competition painters never seal their models. They don't play with them though.

A question for folks out there, I am slowly getting some paint down on my models and I am having a bit of a conundrum.

Do I retin the helmets on my models, go for a mix or go helmetless like the vast majority of my other Space Wolves?

Either way is easy for the convertedJustaerin as they have full heads and cavities

The guy I bought these from als pinned the plumes on top, so maybe I could swap them out for wolf tails???

But Tartoros and cataphractii have only half helms and flat slide in sections for them to slide into the bodies. This will involve cutting and a bit of grinding to make it big enough for a full head, or just chop heads in half



I am swithering a wee bit...

Lastly if I keep the helms, go all grey or do something like the black & red?

Mine will have green eye lenses though

Decisions... Decisions, let me know your thoughts

Swithering???

Sorry' swithering is a Scottish word, means undecided... Swaying back and forth

I think if you were going to add color to the helms, yellow or black and yellow would be better.